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diff --git a/30576.txt b/30576.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..35905ed --- /dev/null +++ b/30576.txt @@ -0,0 +1,9897 @@ +The Project Gutenberg EBook of Slave Narratives: a Folk History of Slavery +in the United States From Interviews with Former Slaves, by Work Projects Administration + +This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with +almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or +re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included +with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.org + + +Title: Slave Narratives: a Folk History of Slavery in the United States From Interviews with Former Slaves + Texas Narratives, Part 1 + +Author: Work Projects Administration + +Release Date: December 2, 2009 [EBook #30576] + +Language: English + +Character set encoding: ASCII + +*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK SLAVE NARRATIVES--TEXAS, PART 1 *** + + + + +Produced by The Online Distributed Proofreading Team at +https://www.pgdp.net (This file was produced from images +generously made available by the Library of Congress, +Manuscript Division) + + + + + + ++--------------------------------------------------------------+ +| | +| Transcriber's Note: | +| | +| I. Inconsistent punctuation has been silently corrected | +| throughout the book. | +| | +| II. Clear spelling mistakes have been corrected however, | +| inconsistent language usage (such as 'day' and 'dey') | +| has been maintained. A list of corrections is included | +| at the end of the book. | +| | +| III. The numbers at the start of each interview were stamped | +| into the original work and refer to the number of the | +| published interview in the context of the entire Slave | +| Narratives project. | +| | +| IV. Two handwritten notes have been retained and are | +| annotated as such. | +| | +| | ++--------------------------------------------------------------+ + + + + +SLAVE NARRATIVES + + +_A Folk History of Slavery in the United States +From Interviews with Former Slaves_ + + +TYPEWRITTEN RECORDS PREPARED BY +THE FEDERAL WRITERS' PROJECT +1936-1938 +ASSEMBLED BY +THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS PROJECT +WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION +FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA +SPONSORED BY THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS + + +_Illustrated with Photographs_ + + +WASHINGTON 1941 +VOLUME XVI + +TEXAS NARRATIVES + +PART 1 + + +Prepared by +the Federal Writers' Project of +the Works Progress Administration +for the State of Texas + + + + +INFORMANTS + + +Adams, Will 1 + +Adams, William 4 + +Adams, William M. 9 + +Allen, Sarah 12 + +Anderson, Andy 14 + +Anderson, George Washington (Wash) 17 + +Anderson, Willis 21 + +Armstrong, Mary 25 + +Arnwine, Stearlin 31 + +Ashley, Sarah 34 + + +Babino, Agatha 37 + +Barclay, Mrs. John 39 + +Barker, John 42 + +Barnes, Joe 45 + +Barrett, Armstead 47 + +Barrett, Harriet 49 + +Bates, John 51 + +Beckett, Harrison 54 + +Bell, Frank 59 + +Bell, Virginia 62 + +Bendy, Edgar 66 + +Bendy, Minerva 68 + +Benjamin, Sarah 70 + +Bess, Jack 72 + +Betts, Ellen 75 + +Beverly, Charlotte 84 + +Black, Francis 87 + +Blanchard, Olivier 90 + +Blanks, Julia 93 + +Boles, Elvira 106 + +Bormer (Bonner), Betty 109 + +Boyd, Harrison 112 + +Boyd, Issabella 114 + +Boyd, James 117 + +Boykins, Jerry 121 + +Brackins, Monroe 124 + +Bradshaw, Gus 130 + +Brady, Wes 133 + +Branch, Jacob 137 + +Branch, William 143 + +Brim, Clara 147 + +Brooks, Sylvester 149 + +Broussard, Donaville 151 + +Brown, Fannie 154 + +Brown, Fred 156 + +Brown, James 160 + +Brown, Josie 163 + +Brown, Zek 166 + +Bruin, Madison 169 + +Bunton, Martha Spence 174 + +Butler, Ellen 176 + +Buttler, Henry H. 179 + +Byrd, William 182 + + +Cain, Louis 185 + +Calhoun, Jeff 188 + +Campbell, Simp 191 + +Cape, James 193 + +Carruthers, Richard 197 + +Carter, Cato 202 + +Cauthern, Jack 212 + +Chambers, Sally Banks 214 + +Choice, Jeptha 217 + +Clark, Amos 220 + +Clark, Anne 223 + +Cole, Thomas 225 + +Coleman, Eli 236 + +Coleman, Preely 240 + +Collins, Harriet 242 + +Columbus, Andrew (Smoky) 246 + +Connally, Steve 249 + +Cormier, Valmar 252 + +Cornish, Laura 254 + +Crawford, John 257 + +Cumby, Green 260 + +Cummins, Tempie 263 + +Cunningham, Adeline 266 + + +Daily, Will 269 + +Daniels, Julia Francis 273 + +Darling, Katie 278 + +Davenport, Carey 281 + +Davis, Campbell 285 + +Davis, William 289 + +Davison, Eli 295 + +Davison, Elige 298 + +Day, John 302 + +Denson, Nelsen 305 + +Duhon, Victor 307 + + + + +ILLUSTRATIONS + + + Facing Page +Will Adams 1 + +William Adams 4 + +Mary Armstrong 25 + +Sterlin Arnwine 31 + +Sarah Ashley 34 + +Edgar and Minerva Bendy 66 + +Jack Bess's House 72 + +Jack Bess 72 + +Charlotte Beverly 84 + +Francis Black 87 + +Betty Bormer (Bonner) 109 + +Issabella Boyd 114 + +James Boyd 117 + +Monroe Brackins 124 + +Wes Brady 133 + +William Branch 143 + +Clara Brim 147 + +Sylvester Brooks 149 + +Donaville Broussard 151 + +Fannie Brown 154 + +Fred Brown 156 + +James Brown 160 + +Josie Brown 163 + +Zek Brown 166 + +Martha Spence Bunton 174 + +Ellen Butler 176 + +Simp Campbell 191 + +James Cape 193 + +Cato Carter 202 + +Amos Clark's Sorghum Mill 220 + +Amos Clark 220 + +Anne Clark 223 + +Preely Coleman 240 + +Steve Connally 249 + +Steve Connally's House 249 + +Valmar Cormier 252 + +John Crawford 257 + +Green Cumby 260 + +Tempie Cummins 263 + +Adeline Cunningham 266 + +Will Daily's House 269 + +Will Daily 269 + +Julia Francis Daniels 273 + +Katie Darling 278 + +Carey Davenport 281 + +Campbell Davis 285 + +Nelsen Denson 305 + + + + +EX-SLAVE STORIES + +(Texas) + + + + +420241 + + +[Illustration: Will Adams] + + + WILL ADAMS was born in 1857, a slave of Dave Cavin, in Harrison + Co., Texas. He remained with the Cavins until 1885, then farmed for + himself. Will lives alone in Marshall, Texas, supported by a $13.00 + monthly pension. + + +"My folks allus belongs to the Cavins and wore their name till after +'mancipation. Pa and ma was named Freeman and Amelia Cavin and Massa +Dave fotches them to Texas from Alabama, along with ma's mother, what we +called Maria. + +"The Cavins allus thunk lots of their niggers and Grandma Maria say, +'Why shouldn't they--it was their money.' She say there was plenty +Indians here when they settled this country and they bought and traded +with them without killin' them, if they could. The Indians was poor +folks, jus' pilfer and loaf 'round all the time. The niggers was a heap +sight better off than they was, 'cause we had plenty to eat and a place +to stay. + +"Young Massa Tom was my special massa and he still lives here. Old Man +Dave seemed to think more of his niggers than anybody and we thunk lots +of our white folks. My pa was leader on the farm, and there wasn't no +overseer or driver. When pa whip a nigger he needn't go to Massa Dave, +but pa say, 'Go you way, you nigger. Freeman didn't whip you for +nothin'.' Massa Dave allus believe pa, 'cause he tells the truth. + +"One time a peddler come to our house and after supper he goes to see +'bout his pony. Pa done feed that pony fifteen ears of corn. The peddler +tell massa his pony ain't been fed nothin', and massa git mad and say, +'Be on you way iffen you gwine 'cuse my niggers of lyin'.' + +"We had good quarters and plenty to eat. I 'members when I's jus' +walkin' round good pa come in from the field at night and taken me out +of bed and dress me and feed me and then play with me for hours. Him +bein' leader, he's gone from 'fore day till after night. The old heads +got out early but us young scraps slep' till eight or nine o'clock, and +don't you think Massa Dave ain't comin' round to see we is fed. I +'members him like it was yest'day, comin' to the quarters with his stick +and askin' us, 'Had your breakfas'?' We'd say, 'Yes, suh.' Then he'd ask +if we had 'nough or wanted any more. It look like he taken a pleasure in +seein' us eat. At dinner, when the field hands come in, it am the same +way. He was sho' that potlicker was fill as long as the niggers want to +eat. + +"The hands worked from sun to sun. Massa give them li'l crops and let +them work them on Saturday. Then he bought the stuff and the niggers go +to Jefferson and buy clothes and sech like. Lots saved money and bought +freedom 'fore the war was over. + +"We went to church and first the white preacher preached and then he +larns our cullud preachers. I seed him ordain a cullud preacher and he +told him to allus be honest. When the white preacher laid his hand on +him, all the niggers git to hollerin' and shoutin' and prayin' and that +nigger git scart mos' to death. + +"On Christmas we had all we could eat and drink and after that a big +party, and you ought to see them gals swingin' they partners round. Then +massa have two niggers wrestle, and our sports and dances was big sport +for the white folks. They'd sit on the gallery and watch the niggers put +it on brown. + +"Massa didn't like his niggers to marry off the place, but sometimes +they'd do it, and massa tell his neighbor, 'My nigger am comin' to you +place. Make him behave.' All the niggers 'haved then and they wasn't no +Huntsville and gallows and burnin's then. + +"Old massa went to war with his boy, Billie. They's lots of cryin' and +weepin' when they sot us free. Lots of them didn't want to be free, +'cause they knowed nothin' and had nowhere to go. Them what had good +massas stayed right on. + +"I 'members when that Ku Klux business starts up. Smart niggers causes +that. The carpet-baggers ruint the niggers and the white men couldn't do +a thing with them, so they got up the Ku Klux and stirs up the world. +Them carpet-baggers come round larnin' niggers to sass the white folks +what done fed them. They come to pa with that talk and he told them, +'Listen, white folks, you is gwine start a graveyard if you come round +here teachin' niggers to sass white folks." Them carpet-baggers starts +all the trouble at 'lections in Reconstruction. Niggers didn't know +anythin' 'bout politics. + +"Mos' the young niggers ain't usin' the education they got now. I's been +here eighty years and still has to be showed and told by white folks. +These young niggers won't git told by whites or blacks either. They +thinks they done knowed it all and that gits them in trouble. + +"I stays with the Cavins mos' twenty years after the war. After I +leaves, I allus farms and does odd jobs round town here. I's father of +ten chillen by one woman. I lives by myself now and they gives me $13.00 +a month. I'd be proud to git it if it wasn't more'n a dollar, 'cause +they ain't nothin' a old man can do no more. + + + + +420055 + + +[Illustration: William Adams] + + + WILLIAM ADAMS, 93, was born in slavery, with no opportunity for an + education, except three months in a public school. He has taught + himself to read and to write. His lifelong ambition has been to + become master of the supernatural powers which he believes to + exist. He is now well-known among Southwestern Negroes for his + faith in the occult. + + +"Yous want to know and talk about de power de people tells you I has. +Well, sit down here, right there in dat chair, befo' we'uns starts. I +gits some ice water and den we'uns can discuss de subject. I wants to +'splain it clearly, so yous can understand. + +"I's born a slave, 93 years ago, so of course I 'members de war period. +Like all de other slaves I has no chance for edumacation. Three months +am de total time I's spent going to school. I teached myself to read and +write. I's anxious to larn to read so I could study and find out about +many things. Dat, I has done. + +"There am lots of folks, and edumacated ones, too, what says we'uns +believes in superstition. Well, its 'cause dey don't understand. 'Member +de Lawd, in some of His ways, can be mysterious. De Bible says so. There +am some things de Lawd wants all folks to know, some things jus' de +chosen few to know, and some things no one should know. Now, jus' 'cause +yous don't know 'bout some of de Lawd's laws, 'taint superstition if +some other person understands and believes in sich. + +"There is some born to sing, some born to preach, and some born to know +de signs. There is some born under de power of de devil and have de +power to put injury and misery on people, and some born under de power +of de Lawd for to do good and overcome de evil power. Now, dat produces +two forces, like fire and water. De evil forces starts de fire and I has +de water force to put de fire out. + +"How I larnt sich? Well, I's done larn it. It come to me. When de Lawd +gives sich power to a person, it jus' comes to 'em. It am 40 years ago +now when I's fust fully realize' dat I has de power. However, I's allus +int'rested in de workin's of de signs. When I's a little piccaninny, my +mammy and other folks used to talk about de signs. I hears dem talk +about what happens to folks 'cause a spell was put on 'em. De old folks +in dem days knows more about de signs dat de Lawd uses to reveal His +laws den de folks of today. It am also true of de cullud folks in +Africa, dey native land. Some of de folks laughs at their beliefs and +says it am superstition, but it am knowin' how de Lawd reveals His laws. + +"Now, let me tell yous of something I's seen. What am seen, can't be +doubted. It happens when I's a young man and befo' I's realize' dat I's +one dat am chosen for to show de power. A mule had cut his leg so bad +dat him am bleedin' to death and dey couldn't stop it. An old cullud man +live near there dat dey turns to. He comes over and passes his hand over +de cut. Befo' long de bleedin' stop and dat's de power of de Lawd +workin' through dat nigger, dat's all it am. + +"I knows about a woman dat had lost her mind. De doctor say it was +caused from a tumor in de head. Dey took an ex-ray picture, but dere's +no tumor. Dey gives up and says its a peculiar case. Dat woman was took +to one with de power of de good spirit and he say its a peculiar case +for dem dat don't understand. Dis am a case of de evil spell. Two days +after, de woman have her mind back. + +"Dey's lots of dose kind of cases de ord'nary person never hear about. +Yous hear of de case de doctors can't understand, nor will dey 'spond to +treatment. Dat am 'cause of de evil spell dat am on de persons. + +"'Bout special persons bein' chosen for to show de power, read yous +Bible. It says in de book of Mark, third chapter, 'and He ordained +twelve, dat dey should be with Him, dat He might send them forth to +preach and to have de power to heal de sick and to cast out devils.' If +it wasn't no evil in people, why does de Lawd say, 'cast out sich?' And +in de fifth chapter of James, it further say, 'If any am sick, let him +call de elders. Let dem pray over him. De prayers of faith shall save +him.' There 'tis again, Faith, dat am what counts. + +"When I tells dat I seen many persons given up to die, and den a man +with de power comes and saves sich person, den its not for people to say +it am superstition to believe in de power. + +"Don't forgit--de agents of de devil have de power of evil. Dey can put +misery of every kind on people. Dey can make trouble with de work and +with de business, with de fam'ly and with de health. So folks mus' be on +de watch all de time. Folks has business trouble 'cause de evil power +have control of 'em. Dey has de evil power cast out and save de +business. There am a man in Waco dat come to see me 'bout dat. He say to +me everything he try to do in de las' six months turned out wrong. It +starts with him losin' his pocketbook with $50.00 in it. He buys a +carload of hay and it catch fire and he los' all of it. He spends +$200.00 advertisin' de three-day sale and it begin to rain, so he los' +money. It sho' am de evil power. + +"'Well,' he say, 'Dat am de way it go, so I comes to you.' + +"I says to him, 'Its de evil power dat have you control and we'uns shall +cause it to be cast out.' Its done and he has no more trouble. + +"You wants to know if persons with de power for good can be successful +in castin' out devils in all cases? Well, I answers dat, yes and no. Dey +can in every case if de affected person have de faith. If de party not +have enough faith, den it am a failure. + +"Wearin' de coin for protection 'gainst de evil power? Dat am simple. +Lots of folks wears sich and dey uses mixtures dat am sprinkled in de +house, and sich. Dat am a question of faith. If dey has de true faith in +sich, it works. Otherwise, it won't. + +"Some folks won't think for a minute of goin' without lodestone or de +salt and pepper mixture in de little sack, tied round dey neck. Some +wears de silver coin tied round dey neck. All sich am for to keep away +de effect of de evil power. When one have de faith in sich and dey +acc'dently lose de charm, dey sho' am miserable. + +"An old darky dat has faith in lodestone for de charm told me de +'sperience he has in Atlanta once. He carryin' de hod and de fust thing +he does am drop some brick on he foot. De next thing, he foot slip as +him starts up de ladder and him and de bricks drap to de ground. It am +lucky for him it wasn't far. Jus' a sprain ankle and de boss sends him +home for de day. He am 'cited and gits on de street car and when de +conductor call for de fare, Rufus reaches for he money but he los' it +or fergits it at home. De conductor say he let him pay nex' time and +asks where he live. Rufus tells him and he say, 'Why, nigger, you is on +de wrong car.' Dat cause Rufus to walk further with de lame foot dan if +he started walkin' in de fust place. He thinks there mus' be something +wrong with he charm, and he look for it and it gone! Sho' 'nough, it am +los'. He think, 'Here I sits all day, and I won't make another move till +I gits de lodestone. When de chillen comes from school I sends dem to de +drugstore for some of de stone and gits fixed.' + +"Now, now, I's been waitin' for dat one 'bout de black cat crossin' de +road, and, sho' 'nough, it come. Let me ask you one. How many people can +yous find dat likes to have de black cat cross in front of 'em? Dat's +right, no one likes dat. Let dis old cullud person inform yous dat it am +sho' de bad luck sign. It is sign of bad luck ahead, so turn back. Stop +what yous doin'. + +"I's tellin' yous of two of many cases of failure to took warnin' from +de black cat. I knows a man call' Miller. His wife and him am takin' an +auto ride and de black cat cross de road and he cussed a little and goes +on. Den it's not long till he turns de corner and his wife falls out of +de car durin' de turn. When he goes back and picks her up, she am dead. + +"Another fellow, call' Brown, was a-ridin' hossback and a black cat +cross de path, but he drives on. Well, its not long till him hoss +stumble and throw him off. De fall breaks his leg, so take a +warnin'--don't overlook de black cat. Dat am a warnin'. + + + + +420192 + + + WILLIAM M. ADAMS, spiritualist preacher and healer, who lives at + 1404 Illinois Ave., Ft. Worth, Texas, was born a slave on the James + Davis plantation, in San Jacinto Co., Texas. After the war he + worked in a grocery, punched cattle, farmed and preached. He moved + to Ft. Worth in 1902. + + +"I was bo'n 93 years ago, dat is whut my mother says. We didn' keep no +record like folks does today. All I know is I been yere a long time. My +mother, she was Julia Adams and my father he was James Adams. She's bo'n +in Hollis Springs, Mississippi and my father, now den, he was bo'n in +Florida. He was a Black Creek Indian. Dere was 12 of us chillen. When I +was 'bout seven de missus, she come and gits me for her servant. I lived +in de big house till she die. Her and Marster Davis was powerful good to +me. + +"Marster Davis he was a big lawyer and de owner of a plantation. But all +I do was wait on ole missus. I'd light her pipe for her and I helped her +wid her knittin'. She give me money all de time. She had a little trunk +she keeped money in and lots of times I'd have to pack it down wid my +feets. + +"I dis'member jus' how many slaves dere was, but dere was more'n 100. I +saw as much as 100 sold at a time. When dey tuk a bunch of slaves to +trade, dey put chains on 'em. + +"De other slaves lived in log cabins back of de big house. Dey had dirt +floors and beds dat was made out of co'n shucks or straw. At nite dey +burned de lamps for 'bout an hour, den de overseers, dey come knock on +de door and tell 'em put de light out. Lots of overseers was mean. +Sometimes dey'd whip a nigger wid a leather strap 'bout a foot wide and +long as your arm and wid a wooden handle at de end. + +"On Sat'day and Sunday nites dey'd dance and sing all nite long. Dey +didn' dance like today, dey danced de roun' dance and jig and do de +pigeon wing, and some of dem would jump up and see how many time he +could kick his feets 'fore dey hit de groun'. Dey had an ole fiddle and +some of 'em would take two bones in each hand and rattle 'em. Dey sang +songs like, 'Diana had a Wooden Leg,' and 'A Hand full of Sugar,' and +'Cotton-eyed Joe.' I dis'member how dey went. + +"De slaves didn' have no church den, but dey'd take a big sugar kettle +and turn it top down on de groun' and put logs roun' it to kill de +soun'. Dey'd pray to be free and sing and dance. + +"When war come dey come and got de slaves from all de plantations and +tuk 'em to build de breastworks. I saw lots of soldiers. Dey'd sing a +song dat go something like dis: + +"'Jeff Davis rode a big white hoss, +Lincoln rode a mule; +Jess Davis is our President, +Lincoln is a fool.' + +"I 'member when de slaves would run away. Ole John Billinger, he had a +bunch of dogs and he'd take after runaway niggers. Sometimes de dogs +didn' ketch de nigger. Den ole Billinger, he'd cuss and kick de dogs. + +"We didn' have to have a pass but on other plantations dey did, or de +paddlerollers would git you and whip you. Dey was de poor white folks +dat didn' have no slaves. We didn' call 'em white folks dem days. No, +suh, we called dem' Buskrys.' + +"Jus' fore de war, a white preacher he come to us slaves and says: 'Do +you wan' to keep you homes whar you git all to eat, and raise your +chillen, or do you wan' to be free to roam roun' without a home, like de +wil' animals? If you wan' to keep you homes you better pray for de South +to win. All day wan's to pray for de South to win, raise the +hand.' We all raised our hands 'cause we was skeered not to, but we sho' +didn' wan' de South to win. + +"Dat night all de slaves had a meetin' down in de hollow. Ole Uncle +Mack, he gits up and says: 'One time over in Virginny dere was two ole +niggers, Uncle Bob and Uncle Tom. Dey was mad at one 'nuther and one day +dey decided to have a dinner and bury de hatchet. So day sat +down, and when Uncle Bob wasn't lookin' Uncle Tom put some poison in +Uncle Bob's food, but he saw it and when Uncle Tom wasn't lookin', Uncle +Bob he turned de tray roun' on Uncle Tom, and he gits de poison food.' +Uncle Mack, he says: 'Dat's what we slaves is gwine do, jus' turn de +tray roun' and pray for de North to win.' + +"After de war dere was a lot of excitement 'mong de niggers. Dey was +rejoicin' and singin'. Some of 'em looked puzzled, sorter skeered like. +But dey danced and had a big jamboree. + +"Lots of 'em stayed and worked on de halves. Others hired out. I went to +work in a grocery store and he paid me $1.50 a week. I give my mother de +dollar and keeped de half. Den I got married and farmed for awhile. Den +I come to Fort Worth and I been yere since. + + + + +420198 + + + SARAH ALLEN was born a slave of John and Sally Goodren, in the Blue + Ridge Mountains of Virginia. Before the Civil War, her owners came + to Texas, locating near a small town then called Freedom. She lives + at 3322 Frutas St., El Paso, Texas. + + +"I was birthed in time of bondage. You know, some people are ashamed to +tell it, but I thank God I was 'llowed to see them times as well as now. +It's a pretty hard story, how cruel some of the marsters was, but I had +the luck to be with good white people. But some I knew were put on the +block and sold. I 'member when they'd come to John Goodren's place to +buy, but he not sell any. They'd have certain days when they'd sell off +the block and they took chillen 'way from mothers, screamin' for dere +chillen. + +"I was birthed in ole Virginia in de Blue Ridge Mountains. When de white +people come to Texas, de cullud people come with them. Dat's been a long +time. + +"My maw was named Charlotte, my paw Parks Adams. He's a white man. I +guess I'm about eighty some years ole. + +"You know, in slavery times when dey had bad marsters dey'd run away, +but we didn' want to. My missus would see her people had something good +to eat every Sunday mornin'. You had to mind your missus and marster and +you be treated well. I think I was about twelve when dey freed us and we +stayed with marster 'bout a year, then went to John Ecols' place and +rented some lan'. We made two bales of cotton and it was the first money +we ever saw. + +"Back when we lived with Marster Goodren we had big candy pullin's. +Invite everybody and play. We had good times. De worst thing, we didn' +never have no schoolin' till after I married. Den I went to school two +weeks. My husban' was teacher. He never was a slave. His father bought +freedom through a blacksmith shop, some way. + +"I had a nice weddin'. My dress was white and trimmed with blue ribbon. +My second day dress was white with red dots. I had a beautiful veil and +a wreath and 'bout two, three waiters for table dat day. + +"My mother was nearly white. Brighter than me. We lef' my father in +Virginia. I was jus' as white as de chillen I played with. I used to be +plum bright, but here lately I'm gettin' awful dark. + +"My husban' was of a mixture, like you call bright ginger-cake color. I +don' know where he got his learnin'. I feel so bad since he's gone to +Glory. + +"Now I'm ole, de Lord has taken care of me. He put that spirit in people +to look after ole folks and now my chillen look after me. I've two sons, +one name James Allen, one R.M. Both live in El Paso. + +"After we go to sleep, de people will know these things, 'cause if +freedom hadn' come, it would have been so miserable. + + + + +420149 + + + ANDY ANDERSON, 94, was born a slave of Jack Haley, who owned a + plantation in Williamson Co., Texas. During the Civil War, Andy was + sold to W.T. House, of Blanco County, who in less than a year sold + Andy to his brother, John House. Andy now lives with his third wife + and eight of his children at 301 Armour St., Fort Worth, Texas. + + +"My name am Andy J. Anderson, and I's born on Massa Jack Haley's +plantation in Williamson County, Texas, and Massa Haley owned my folks +and 'bout twelve other families of niggers. I's born in 1843 and that +makes me 94 year old and 18 year when de war starts. I's had 'speriences +durin' dat time. + +"Massa Haley am kind to his cullud folks, and him am kind to everybody, +and all de folks likes him. De other white folks called we'uns de petted +niggers. There am 'bout 30 old and young niggers and 'bout 20 +piccaninnies too little to work, and de nuss cares for dem while dey +mammies works. + +"I's gwine 'splain how it am managed on Massa Haley's plantation. It am +sort of like de small town, 'cause everything we uses am made right +there. There am de shoemaker and he is de tanner and make de leather +from de hides. Den massa has 'bout a thousand sheep and he gits de wool, +and de niggers cards and spins and weaves it, and dat makes all de +clothes. Den massa have cattle and sich purvide de milk and de butter +and beef meat for eatin'. Den massa have de turkeys and chickens and de +hawgs and de bees. With all that, us never was hongry. + +"De plantation am planted in cotton, mostly, with de corn and de wheat a +little, 'cause massa don't need much of dem. He never sell nothin' but +de cotton. + +"De livin' for de cullud folks am good. De quarters am built from logs +like deys all in dem days. De floor am de dirt but we has de benches and +what is made on de place. And we has de big fireplace for to cook and we +has plenty to cook in dat fireplace, 'cause massa allus 'lows plenty +good rations, but he watch close for de wastin' of de food. + +"De war breaks and dat make de big change on de massas place. He jines +de army and hires a man call' Delbridge for overseer. After dat, de hell +start to pop, 'cause de first thing Delbridge do is cut de rations. He +weighs out de meat, three pound for de week, and he measure a peck of +meal. And 'twarn't enough. He half starve us niggers and he want mo' +work and he start de whippin's. I guesses he starts to edumacate 'em. I +guess dat Delbridge go to hell when he died, but I don't see how de +debbil could stand him. + +"We'uns am not use' to sich and some runs off. When dey am cotched there +am a whippin' at de stake. But dat Delbridge, he sold me to Massa House, +in Blanco County. I's sho' glad when I's sold, but it am short gladness, +'cause here am another man what hell am too good for. He gives me de +whippin' and de scars am still on my arms and my back, too. I'll carry +dem to my grave. He sends me for firewood and when I gits it loaded, de +wheel hits a stump and de team jerks and dat breaks de whippletree. So +he ties me to de stake and every half hour for four hours, dey lays ta +lashes on my back. For de first couple hours de pain am awful. I's never +forgot it. Den I's stood so much pain I not feel so much and when dey +takes me loose, I's jus' 'bout half dead. I lays in de bunk two days, +gittin' over dat whippin', gittin' over it in de body but not de heart. +No, suh, I has dat in de heart till dis day. + +"After dat whippin' I doesn't have de heart to work for de massa. If I +seed de cattle in de cornfield, I turns de back, 'stead of chasin' 'em +out. I guess dat de reason de massa sold me to his brother, Massa John. +And he am good like my first massa, he never whipped me. + +"Den surrender am 'nounced and massa tells us we's free. When dat takes +place, it am 'bout one hour by sun. I says to myself, 'I won't be here +long.' But I's not realise what I's in for till after I's started, but I +couldn't turn back. For dat means de whippin' or danger from de patter +rollers. Dere I was and I kep' on gwine. No nigger am sposed to be off +de massa's place without de pass, so I travels at night and hides durin' +de daylight. I stays in de bresh and gits water from de creeks, but not +much to eat. Twice I's sho' dem patter rollers am passin' while I's +hidin'. + +"I's 21 year old den, but it am de first time I's gone any place, 'cept +to de neighbors, so I's worried 'bout de right way to Massa Haley's +place. But de mornin' of de third day I comes to he place and I's so +hongry and tired and scairt for fear Massa Haley not home from de army +yit. So I finds my pappy and he hides me in he cabin till a week and den +luck comes to me when Massa Haley come home. He come at night and de +next mornin' dat Delbridge am shunt off de place, 'cause Massa Haley +seed he niggers was all gaunt and lots am ran off and de fields am not +plowed right, and only half de sheep and everything left. So massa say +to dat Delbridge, 'Dere am no words can 'splain what yous done. Git off +my place 'fore I smashes you.' + +"Den I kin come out from my pappy's cabin and de old massa was glad to +see me, and he let me stay till freedom am ordered. Dat's de happies' +time in my life, when I gits back to Massa Haley. + + + + +420317 + + +Dibble, Fred, P.W., Beehler, Rheba, P.W., Beaumont, Jefferson, Dist. #3. + + A frail sick man, neatly clad in white pajamas lying patiently in a + clean bed awaiting the end which does not seem far away. Although + we protested against his talking, because of his weakness, he told + a brief story of his life in a whisper, his breath very short and + every word was spoken with great effort. His light skin and his + features denote no characteristic of his race, has a bald head with + a bit of gray hair around the crown and a slight growth of gray + whiskers about his face, is medium in height and build. WASH + ANDERSON, although born in Charleston, S.C., has spent practically + all of his life in Texas [Handwritten Note: (Beaumont, Texas--] + + +"Mos' folks call me Wash Anderson, but dey uster call me George. My +whole name' George Washington Anderson. I was bo'n in Charleston, Sou'f +Ca'lina in 1855. Bill Anderson was my ol' marster. Dey was two boy' and +two gal' in his family. We all lef' Charleston and come to Orange, +Texas, befo' freedom come. I was fo' year' ol' when dey mek dat trip." + +"I don' 'member nuttin' 'bout Charleston. You see where I was bo'n was +'bout two mile' from de city. I went back one time in 1917, but I didn' +stay dere long." + +"My pa was Irvin' Anderson and my mommer was name' Eliza. Ol' marster +was pretty rough on his niggers. Dey tell me he had my gran'daddy beat +to death. Dey never did beat me." + +"Dey made de trip from Charleston 'cross de country and settle' in +Duncan's Wood' down here in Orange county. Dey had a big plantation +dere. I dunno if ol' marster had money back in Charleston, but I t'ink +he must have. He had 'bout 25 or 30 slaves on de place." + +"Ol' man Anderson he had a big two-story house. It was buil' out of logs +but it was a big fine house. De slaves jis' had little log huts. Dere +warn't no flo's to 'em, nuthin' but de groun'. Dem little huts jis' had +one room in 'em. Dey was one family to de house, 'cep'n' sometime dey +put two or t'ree family' to a house. Dey jis' herd de slaves in dere +like a bunch of pigs." + +"Dey uster raise cotton, and co'n, and sugar cane, and sich like, but +dey didn' uster raise no rice. Dey uster sen' stuff to Terry on a +railroad to sen' it to market. Sometime dey hitch up dey teams and sen' +it to Orange and Beaumont in wagons. De ol' marster he had a boat, too, +and sometime he sen' a boatload of his stuff to Beaumont." + +"My work was to drive de surrey for de family and look atter de hosses +and de harness and sich. I jis' have de bes' hosses on de place to see +atter." + +"I saw lots of sojers durin' de war. I see 'em marchin' by, goin' to +Sabine Pass 'bout de time of dat battle." + +"Back in slavery time dey uster have a white preacher to come 'roun' and +preach to de cullud folks. But I don't 'member much 'bout de songs what +dey uster sing." + +"I play 'roun' right smart when I was little. Dey uster have lots of fun +playin' 'hide and seek,' and 'hide de switch.' We uster ride stick +hosses and play 'roun' at all dem t'ings what chillun play at." + +"Dey had plenty of hosses and mules and cows on de ol' plantation. I had +to look atter some of de hosses, but dem what I hatter look atter was +s'pose to be de bes' hosses in de bunch. Like I say, I drive de surrey +and dey allus have de bes' hosses to pull dat surrey. Dey had a log +stable. Dey kep' de harness in dere, too. Eb'ryt'ing what de stock eat +dey raise on de plantation, all de co'n and fodder and sich like." + +"Atter freedom come I went 'roun' doin' dif'rent kind of work. I uster +work on steamboats, and on de railroad and at sawmillin'. I was a sawyer +for a long, long time. I work 'roun' in Lou'sana and Arkansas, and +Oklahoma, as well as in Texas. When I wasn't doin' dem kinds of work, I +uster work 'roun' at anyt'ing what come to han'. I 'member one time I +was workin' for de Burr Lumber Company at Fort Townsend up dere in +Arkansas." + +"When I was 'bout 36 year' ol' I git marry. I been married twice. My +fus' wife was name' Hannah and Reverend George Childress was de preacher +dat marry us. He was a cullud preacher. Atter Hannah been dead some time +I marry my secon' wife. Her name was Tempie Perkins. Later on, us +sep'rate. Us sep'rate on 'count of money matters." + +"I b'longs to de Baptis' Chu'ch. Sometime' de preacher come 'roun' and +see me. He was here a few days ago dis week." + + + + +_"UNCLE WILLIS ANDERSON"_ + +_REFERENCES_ + +A. Coronado's Children--J. Frank Dobie, Pub. 1929, Austin, Tex. + +B. Leon County News--Centerville, Texas--Thursday May 21, 1936. + +C. Consultant--Uncle Willis Anderson, resident of Centerville, Tex, born +April 15, 1844. + + +An interesting character at Centerville, Texas, is "Uncle Willis" +Anderson, an ex-slave, born April 15, 1844, 6 miles west of Centerville +on the old McDaniels plantation near what is now known as Hopewell +Settlement. It is generally said that "Uncle Willis" is one of the +oldest living citizens in the County, black or white. He is referred to +generally for information concerning days gone by and for the history of +that County, especially in the immediate vicinity of Centerville. + +"Uncle Willis" is an interesting figure. He may be found sitting on the +porches of the stores facing Federal Highway No. 75, nodding or +conversing with small groups of white or colored people that gather +around him telling of the days gone by. He also likes to watch the +busses and automobiles that pass through the small town musing and +commenting on the swiftness of things today. Uncle Willis still +cultivates a small patch five miles out from the town. + +"Uncle Willis" is a tall dark, brown-skinned man having a large head +covered with mixed gray wooly hair. He has lost very few teeth +considering his age. When sitting on the porches of the stores the soles +of his farm-shoes may be seen tied together with pieces of wire. He +supports himself with a cane made from the Elm tree. At present he wears +a tall white Texas Centennial hat which makes him appear more unique +than ever. + +"Uncle Willis'" memory is vivid. He is familiar with the older figures +in the history of the County. He tells tales of having travelled by oxen +to West Texas for flour and being gone for six months at a time. He +remembers the Keechi and the Kickapoo Indians and also claims that he +can point out a tree where the Americans hung an Indian Chief. He says +that he has plowed up arrows, pots and flints on the Reubens Bains place +and on the McDaniel farms. He can tell of the early lawlessness in the +County. His face lights up when he recalls how the Yankee soldiers came +through Centerville telling the slave owners to free their slaves. He +also talks very low when he mentions the name of Jeff Davis because he +says, "Wha' man eavesdrops the niggers houses in slavery time and if +yer' sed' that Jeff Davis was a good man, they barbecued a hog for you, +but if yer' sed' that Abe Lincoln was a good man, yer' had to fight or +go to the woods." + +Among the most interesting tales told by "Uncle Willis" is the tale of +the "Lead mine." "Uncle Willis" says that some where along Boggy Creek +near a large hickory tree and a red oak tree, near Patrick's Lake, he +and his master, Auss McDaniels, would dig lead out of the ground which +they used to make pistol and rifle balls for the old Mississippi rifles +during slavery time. Uncle Willis claims that they would dig slags of +lead out of the ground some 12 and 15 inches long, and others as large +as a man's fist. They would carry this ore back to the big house and +melt it down to get the trash out of it, then they would pour it into +molds and make rifle balls and pistol balls from it. In this way they +kept plenty of amunition on hand. In recent years the land has changed +ownership, and the present owners live in Dallas. Learning of the tale +of the "lead mine" on their property they went to Centerville in an +attempt to locate it and were referred to "Uncle Willis." Uncle Willis +says they offered him two hundred dollars if he could locate the mine. +Being so sure that he knew its exact location, said that the $200 was +his meat. However, Uncle Willis was unable to locate the spot where they +dug the lead and the mine remains a mystery.[C] + +Recently a group of citizens of Leon County including W.D. Lacey, Joe +McDaniel, Debbs Brown, W.H. Hill and Judge Lacey cross questioned Uncle +Willis about the lead mine. Judge Lacey did the questioning while them +others formed an audience. The conversation went as follows: + +"Which way would you go when you went to the mine?" Judge Lacey asked. + +"Out tow'hd Normangee." + +"How long would it take you to get there?" + +"Two or three hours." + +"Was it on a creek?" + +"Yessuh." + +"But you cant go to it now?" + +"Nosuh, I just can't recollect exactly where 'tis.[B] + +J. Frank Dobie mentions many tales of lost lead mines throughout Texas +in Coronado's Children, a publication of the Texas Folk-Lore Society. +Lead in the early days of the Republic and the State was very valuable, +as it was the source of protection from the Indians and also the means +of supplying food.[A] + + + + +420056 + + +[Illustration: Mary Armstrong] + + + MARY ARMSTRONG, 91, lives at 3326 Pierce Ave., Houston, Texas. She + was born on a farm near St. Louis, Missouri, a slave of William + Cleveland. Her father, Sam Adams, belonged to a "nigger trader," + who had a farm adjoining the Cleveland place. + + +"I's Aunt Mary, all right, but you all has to 'scuse me if I don't talk +so good, 'cause I's been feelin' poorly for a spell and I ain't so young +no more. Law me, when I think back what I used to do, and now it's all I +can do to hobble 'round a little. Why, Miss Olivia, my mistress, used to +put a glass plumb full of water on my head and then have me waltz 'round +the room, and I'd dance so smoothlike, I don't spill nary drap. + +"That was in St. Louis, where I's born. You see, my mamma belong to old +William Cleveland and old Polly Cleveland, and they was the meanest two +white folks what ever lived, 'cause they was allus beatin' on their +slaves. I know, 'cause mamma told me, and I hears about it other places, +and besides, old Polly, she was a Polly devil if there ever was one, and +she whipped my little sister what was only nine months old and jes' a +baby to death. She come and took the diaper offen my little sister and +whipped till the blood jes' ran--jes' 'cause she cry like all babies do, +and it kilt my sister. I never forgot that, but I sot some even with +that old Polly devil and it's this-a-way. + +"You see, I's 'bout 10 year old and I belongs to Miss Olivia, what was +that old Polly's daughter, and one day old Polly devil comes to where +Miss Olivia lives after she marries, and trys to give me a lick out in +the yard, and I picks up a rock 'bout as big as half your fist and hits +her right in the eye and busted the eyeball, and tells her that's for +whippin' my baby sister to death. You could hear her holler for five +miles, but Miss Olivia, when I tells her, says, 'Well, I guess mamma has +larnt her lesson at last.' But that old Polly was mean like her husban', +old Cleveland, till she die, and I hopes they is burnin' in torment now. + +"I don't 'member 'bout the start of things so much, 'cept what Miss +Olivia and my mamma, her name was Siby, tells me. Course, it's powerful +cold in winter times and the farms was lots different from down here. +They calls 'em plantations down here but up at St. Louis they was jes' +called farms, and that's what they was, 'cause we raises wheat and +barley and rye and oats and corn and fruit. + +"The houses was builded with brick and heavy wood, too, 'cause it's cold +up there, and we has to wear the warm clothes and they's wove on the +place, and we works at it in the evenin's. + +"Old Cleveland takes a lot of his slaves what was in 'custom' and brings +'em to Texas to sell. You know, he wasn't sposed to do that, 'cause when +you's in 'custom', that's 'cause he borrowed money on you, and you's not +sposed to leave the place till he paid up. Course, old Cleveland jes' +tells the one he owed the money to, you had run off, or squirmed out +some way, he was that mean. + +"Mamma say she was in one bunch and me in 'nother. Mamma had been put +'fore this with my papa, Sam Adams, but that makes no diff'rence to Old +Cleveland. He's so mean he never would sell the man and woman and +chillen to the same one. He'd sell the man here and the woman there and +if they's chillen, he'd sell them some place else. Oh, old Satan in +torment couldn't be no meaner than what he and Old Polly was to they +slaves. He'd chain a nigger up to whip 'em and rub salt and pepper on +him, like he said, 'to season him up.' And when he'd sell a slave, he'd +grease their mouth all up to make it look like they'd been fed good and +was strong and healthy. + +"Well mamma say they hadn't no more'n got to Shreveport 'fore some law +man cotch old Cleveland and takes 'em all back to St. Louis. Then my +little sister's born, the one old Polly devil kilt, and I's 'bout four +year old then. + +"Miss Olivia takes a likin' to me and, though her papa and mama so mean, +she's kind to everyone, and they jes' love her. She marries to Mr. Will +Adams what was a fine man, and has 'bout five farms and 500 slaves, and +he buys me for her from old Cleveland and pays him $2,500.00, and gives +him George Henry, a nigger, to boot. Lawsy, I's sho' happy to be with +Miss Olivia and away from old Cleveland and Old Polly, 'cause they kilt +my little sister. + +"We lives in St. Louis, on Chinquapin Hill, and I's housegirl, and when +the babies starts to come I nusses 'em and spins thread for clothes on +the loom. I spins six cuts of thread a week, but I has plenty of time +for myself and that's where I larns to dance so good. Law, I sho' jes' +crazy 'bout dancin'. If I's settin' eatin' my victuals and hears a +fiddle play, I gets up and dances. + +"Mr. Will and Miss Olivia sho' is good to me, and I never calls Mr. Will +'massa' neither, but when they's company I calls him Mr. Will and 'round +the house by ourselves I calls them 'pappy' and 'mammy', 'cause they +raises me up from the little girl. I hears old Cleveland done took my +mamma to Texas 'gain but I couldn't do nothin', 'cause Miss Olivia +wouldn't have much truck with her folks. Once in a while old Polly comes +over, but Miss Olivia tells her not to touch me or the others. Old Polly +trys to buy me back from Miss Olivia, and if they had they'd kilt me +sho'. But Miss Olivia say, 'I'd wade in blood as deep as Hell 'fore I'd +let you have Mary.' That's jes' the very words she told 'em. + +"Then I hears my papa is sold some place I don't know where. 'Course, I +didn't know him so well, jes' what mamma done told me, so that didn't +worry me like mamma being took so far away. + +"One day Mr. Will say, 'Mary, you want to go to the river and see the +boat race?' Law me, I never won't forget that. Where we live it ain't +far to the Miss'sippi River and pretty soon here they comes, the Natchez +and the Eclipse, with smoke and fire jes' pourin' out of they +smokestacks. That old captain on the 'Clipse starts puttin' in bacon +meat in the boiler and the grease jes' comes out a-blazin' and it beat +the Natchez to pieces. + +"I stays with Miss Olivia till '63 when Mr. Will set us all free. I was +'bout 17 year old then or more. I say I goin' find my mamma. Mr. Will +fixes me up two papers, one 'bout a yard long and the other some +smaller, but both has big, gold seals what he says is the seal of the +State of Missouri. He gives me money and buys my fare ticket to Texas +and tells me they is still slave times down here and to put the papers +in my bosom but to do whatever the white folks tells me, even if they +wants to sell me. But he say, 'Fore you gets off the block, jes' pull +out the papers, but jes' hold 'em up to let folks see and don't let 'em +out of your hands, and when they sees them they has to let you alone.' + +"Miss Olivia cry and carry on and say be careful of myself 'cause it +sho' rough in Texas. She give me a big basket what had so much to eat in +it I couldn't hardly heft it and 'nother with clothes in it. They puts +me in the back end a the boat where the big, old wheel what run the boat +was and I goes to New Orleans, and the captain puts me on 'nother boat +and I comes to Galveston, and that captain puts me on 'nother boat and I +comes up this here Buffalo Bayou to Houston. + +"I looks 'round Houston, but not long. It sho' was a dumpy little place +then and I gets the stagecoach to Austin. It takes us two days to get +there and I thinks my back busted sho' 'nough, it was sich rough ridin'. +Then I has trouble sho'. A man asks me where I goin' and says to come +'long and he takes me to a Mr. Charley Crosby. They takes me to the +block what they sells slaves on. I gets right up like they tells me, +'cause I 'lects what Mr. Will done told me to do, and they starts +biddin' on me. And when they cried off and this Mr. Crosby comes up to +get me, I jes' pulled out my papers and helt 'em up high and when he +sees 'em, he say, 'Let me see them.' But I says, 'You jes' look at it up +here,' and he squints up and say, 'This gal am free and has papers,' and +tells me he a legislature man and takes me and lets me stay with his +slaves. He is a good man. + +"He tells me there's a slave refugee camp in Wharton County but I didn't +have no money left, but he pays me some for workin' and when the war's +over I starts to hunt mamma 'gain, and finds her in Wharton County near +where Wharton is. Law me, talk 'bout cryin' and singin' and cryin' some +more, we sure done it. I stays with mamma till I gets married in 1871 to +John Armstrong, and then we all comes to Houston. + +"I gets me a job nussin' for Dr. Rellaford and was all through the +yellow fever epidemic. I 'lects in '75 people die jes' like sheep with +the rots. I's seen folks with the fever jump from their bed with death +on 'em and grab other folks. The doctor saved lots of folks, white and +black, 'cause he sweat it out of 'em. He mixed up hot water and vinegar +and mustard and some else in it. + +"But, law me, so much is gone out of my mind, 'cause I's 91 year old now +and my mind jes' like my legs, jes' kinda hobble 'round a bit. + + + + +420085 + + +[Illustration: Sterlin Arnwine] + + + STEARLIN ARNWINE, 94, was born a slave to Albertus Arnwine, near + Jacksonville, Texas, who died when Stearlin was seven or eight. He + was bought by John Moseley, of Rusk, Texas, who made Stearlin a + houseboy, and was very kind to him. He now lives about six miles + west of Jacksonville. + + +"I was bo'n 'fore de war, in 1853, right near this here town, on Gum +Creek. My mammy belonged to Massa Albertus Arnwine, and he wasn' ever +married. He owned four women, my mammy, Ann, my grandmother, Gracie, and +my Aunt Winnie and Aunt Mary. He didn' own any nigger men, 'cept the +chillen of these women. Grandma lived in de house with Massa Arnwine and +the rest of us lived in cabins in de ya'd. My mammy come from Memphis +but I don' know whar my pappy come from. He was Ike Lane. I has three +half brothers, and their names is Joe and Will and John Schot, and two +sisters called Polly and Rosie. + +"Massa Arnwine died 'fore de war and he made a will and it gave all he +owned to the women he owned, and Jedge Jowell promised massa on his +deathbed he would take us to de free country, but he didn'. He took us +to his place to work for him for 'bout two years and the women never did +get that 900 acres of land Massa Arnwine willed to'em. I don' know who +got it, but they didn'. I knows I still has a share in that land, but it +takes money to git it in cou't. + +"When war broke I fell into the han's of Massa John Moseley at Rusk. +They brought the dogs to roun' us up from the fiel's whar we was +workin'. I was the only one of my fam'ly to go to Massa John. + +"I never did wo'k in the fiel's at Massa John's place. He said I mus' be +his houseboy and houseboy I was. Massa was sho' good to me and I did +love to be with him and follow him 'roun'. + +"The kitchen was out in de ya'd and I had to carry the victuals to the +big dinin'-room. When dinner was over, Massa John tuk a nap and I had to +fan him, and Lawsy me, I'd git so sleepy. I kin hear him now, for he'd +wake up and say, 'Go get me a drink outta the northeast corner of de +well.' + +"We had straw and grass beds, we put it in sacks on de groun' and slep' +on de sacks. I don' 'member how much land Massa John had but it was a +big place and he had lots of slaves. We chillun had supper early in de +evenin' and mostly cornbread and hawg meat and milk. We all ate from a +big pot. I larned to spin and weave and knit and made lots of socks. + +"Massa John had two step-daughters, Miss Mollie and Miss Laura, and they +wen' to school at Rusk. It was my job to take 'em thar ev'ry Monday +mornin' on horses and go back after 'em Friday afternoon. + +"I never earnt no money 'fore freedom come, but once my brother-in-law +give me five dollars. I was so proud of it I showed it to de ladies and +one of 'em said, 'You don' need dat,' and she give me two sticks of +candy and tuk de money. But I didn' know any better then. + +"I seed slaves for sale on de auction block. They sol' 'em 'cordin' to +strengt' and muscles. They was stripped to de wais'. I seed the women +and little chillun cryin' and beggin' not to be separated, but it didn' +do no good. They had to go. + +"The only chu'ch I knowed 'bout was when we'd git together in de night +and have prayer meetin' and singin.' We use' to go way out in de woods +so de white folks wouldn' hear nothin'. Sometimes we'd stay nearly all +night on Saturday, 'cause we didn' have to work Sunday. + +"'Bout the only thing we could play was stick hosses. I made miles and +miles on the stick hosses. After the War Massa John have his chillun a +big roll of Confederate money and they give us some of it to trade and +buy stick hosses with. + +"When Massa John tol' us we was free, he didn' seem to min', but Miss +Em, she bawled and squalled, say her prop'ty taken 'way from her. After +dat, my mammy gathers us togedder and tuk us to the Dr. Middleton place, +out from Jacksonville. From thar to de Ragsdale place whar I's been ever +since. + +"I wore my first pants when I was fourteen years ole, and they stung +'till I was mis'ble. The cloth was store bought but mammy made the pants +at home. It was what we called dog-hair cloth. Mammy made my first +shoes, we called 'em 'red rippers'. + + + + +420075 + + +[Illustration: Sarah Ashley] + + + SARAH ASHLEY, 93, was born in Mississippi. She recalls her + experiences when sold on the block in New Orleans, and on a cotton + plantation in Texas. She now lives at Goodrich, Texas. + + +"I ain't able to do nothin' no more. I's jus' plumb give out and I stays +here by myself. My daughter, Georgia Grime, she used to live with me but +she's been dead four year. + +"I was born in Miss'ippi and Massa Henry Thomas buy us and bring us +here. He a spec'lator and buys up lots of niggers and sells 'em. Us +family was sep'rated. My two sisters and my papa was sold to a man in +Georgia. Den dey put me on a block and bid me off. Dat in New Orleans +and I scairt and cry, but dey put me up dere anyway. First dey takes me +to Georgia and dey didn't sell me for a long spell. Massa Thomas he +travel round and buy and sell niggers. Us stay in de spec'lators drove +de long time. + +"After 'while Massa Mose Davis come from Cold Spring, in Texas, and buys +us. He was buyin' up little chillen for he chillen. Dat 'bout four year +befo' da first war. I was 19 year old when de burst of freedom come in +June and I git turn loose. + +"I was workin' in de field den. Jus' befo' dat de old Massa he go off +and buy more niggers. He go east. He on a boat what git stove up and he +die and never come back no more. Us never see him no more. + +"I used to have to pick cotton and sometime I pick 300 pound and tote it +a mile to de cotton house. Some pick 300 to 800 pound cotton and have to +tote de bag de whole mile to de gin. Iffen dey didn't do dey work dey +git whip till dey have blister on 'em. Den iffen dey didn't do it, de +man on a hoss goes down de rows and whip with a paddle make with holes +in it and bus' de blisters. I never git whip, 'cause I allus git my 300 +pound. Us have to go early to do dat, when de horn goes early, befo' +daylight. Us have to take de victuals in de bucket to de field. + +"Massa have de log house and us live in little houses, strowed in long +rows. Dere wasn't no meetin's 'lowed in de quarters and iffen dey have +prayer meetin' de boss man whip dem. Sometime us run off at night and go +to camp meetin'. I takes de white chillen to church sometime, but dey +couldn't larn me to sing no songs 'cause I didn' have no spirit. + +"Us never got 'nough to eat, so us keeps stealin' stuff. Us has to. Dey +give us de peck of meal to last de week and two, three pound bacon in +chunk. Us never have flour or sugar, jus' cornmeal and de meat and +'taters. De niggers has de big box under de fireplace, where dey kep' +all de pig and chickens what dey steal, down in salt. + +"I seed a man run away and de white men got de dogs and dey kotch him +and put him in de front room and he jump through de big window and break +de glass all up. Dey sho' whips him when dey kotches him. + +"De way dey whip de niggers was to strip 'em off naked and whip 'em till +dey make blisters and bus' de blisters. Den dey take de salt and red +pepper and put in de wounds. After dey wash and grease dem and put +somethin' on dem, to keep dem from bleed to death. + +"When de boss man told us freedom was come he didn't like it, but he +give all us de bale of cotton and some corn. He ask us to stay and he'p +with de crop but we'uns so glad to git 'way dat nobody stays. I got +'bout fifty dollars for de cotton and den I lends it to a nigger what +never pays me back yit. Den I got no place to go, so I cooks for a white +man name' Dick Cole. He sposen give me $5.00 de month but he never paid +me no money. He'd give me eats and clothes, 'cause he has de little +store. + +"Now, I's all alone and thinks of dem old times what was so bad, and I's +ready for de Lawd to call me." + + + + +420280 + + + AGATHA BABINO, born a slave of Ogis Guidry, near Carenco, + Louisiana, now lives in a cottage on the property of the Blessed + Sacrament Church, in Beaumont, Texas. She says she is at least + eighty-seven and probably much older. + + +"Old Marse was Ogis Guidry. Old Miss was Laurentine. Dey had four +chillen, Placid, Alphonse and Mary and Alexandrine, and live in a big, +one-story house with a gallery and brick pillars. Dey had a big place. I +'spect a mile 'cross it, and fifty slaves. + +"My mama name was Clarice Richard. She come from South Carolina. Papa +was Dick Richard. He come from North Carolina. He was slave of old +Placid Guilbeau. He live near Old Marse. My brothers was Joe and +Nicholas and Oui and Albert and Maurice, and sisters was Maud and +Celestine and Pauline. + +"Us slaves lived in shabby houses. Dey builded of logs and have dirt +floor. We have a four foot bench. We pull it to a table and set on it. +De bed a platform with planks and moss. + +"We had Sunday off. Christmas was off, too. Dey give us chicken and +flour den. But most holidays de white folks has company. Dat mean more +work for us. + +"Old Marse bad. He beat us till we bleed. He rub salt and pepper in. One +time I sweep de yard. Young miss come home from college. She slap my +face. She want to beat me. Mama say to beat her, so dey did. She took de +beatin' for me. + +"My aunt run off 'cause dey beat her so much. Dey brung her back and +beat her some more. + +"We have dance outdoors sometime. Somebody play fiddle and banjo. We +dance de reel and quadrille and buck dance. De men dance dat. If we go +to dance on 'nother plantation we have to have pass. De patterrollers +come and make us show de slip. If dey ain't no slip, we git beat. + +"I see plenty sojers. Dey fight at Pines and we hear ball go +'zing--zing.' Young marse have blue coat. He put it on and climb a tree +to see. De sojers come and think he a Yankee. Dey take his gun. Dey turn +him loose when dey find out he ain't no Yankee. + +"When de real Yankees come dey take corn and gooses and hosses. Dey +don't ask for nothin'. Dey take what dey wants. + +"Some masters have chillen by slaves. Some sold dere own chillen. Some +sot dem free. + +"When freedom come we have to sign up to work for money for a year. We +couldn't go work for nobody else. After de year some stays, but not +long. + +"De Ku Klux kill niggers. Dey come to take my uncle. He open de door. +Dey don't take him but tell him to vote Democrat next day or dey will. +Dey kilt some niggers what wouldn't vote Democrat. + +"Dey kill my old uncle Davis. He won't vote Democrat. Dey shoot him. Den +dey stand him up and let him fall down. Dey tie him by de feet. Dey drag +him through de bresh. Dey dare his wife to cry. + +"When I thirty I marry Tesisfor Babino. Pere Abadie marry us at Grand +Coteau. We have dinner with wine. Den come big dance. We have twelve +chillen. We works in de field in Opelousas. We come here twenty-five +year ago. He die in 1917. Dey let's me live here. It nice to be near de +church. I can go to prayers when I wants to. + + + + +420164 + + + MRS. JOHN BARCLAY (nee Sarah Sanders) Brownwood, Texas was born in + Komo, Mississippi, September 1, 1853. She was born a slave at the + North Slades' place. Mr. and Mrs. North Slade were the only owners + she ever had. She served as nurse-maid for her marster's children + and did general housework. She, with her mother and father and + family stayed with the Slades until the end of the year after the + Civil War. They then moved to themselves, hiring out to "White + Folks." + + +"My marster and mistress was good to all de slaves dat worked for dem. +But our over-seer, Jimmy Shearer, was sho' mean. One day he done git mad +at me for some little somethin' and when I take de ashes to de garden he +catches me and churns me up and down on de groun'. One day he got mad +at my brother and kicked him end over end, jes' like a stick of wood. He +would whip us 'til we was raw and then put pepper and salt in de sores. +If he thought we was too slow in doin' anything he would kick us off de +groun' and churn us up and down. Our punishment depended on de mood of +de over-seer. I never did see no slaves sold. When we was sick dey give +us medicine out of drug stores. De over-seer would git some coarse +cotton cloth to make our work clothes out of and den he would make dem +so narrow we couldn' hardly' walk. + +"There was 1800 acres in Marster Slade's plantation, we got up at 5:00 +o'clock in de mornin' and de field workers would quit after sun-down. We +didn' have no jails for slaves. We went to church with de white folks +and there was a place in de back of de church for us to sit. + +"I was jes' a child den and us chilluns would gather in de back yard and +sing songs and play games and dance jigs. Song I 'member most is 'The +Day is Past and Gone.' + +"One time marster found out the over-seer was so mean to me, so he +discharged him and released me from duty for awhile. + +"We never did wear shoes through de week but on Sunday we would dress up +in our white cotton dresses and put on shoes. + +"We wasn't taught to read or write. Our owner didn't think anything +about it. We had to work if there was work to be done. When we got +caught up den we could have time off. If any of us got sick our mistress +would 'tend to us herself. If she thought we was sick enough she would +call de white doctor. + +"When de marster done told us we was free we jumped up and down and +slapped our hands and shouted 'Glory to God!' Lord, child dat was one +happy bunch of niggers. Awhile after dat some of de slaves told marster +dey wanted to stay on with him like dey had been but he told 'em no dey +couldn't, 'cause dey was free. He said he could use some of 'em but dey +would have to buy what dey got and he would have to pay 'em like men. + +"When I was 'bout 18 years old I married John Barclay. I's had ten +chillun and four gran'-chillun and now I lives by myself." + + + + +420128 + + + JOHN BARKER, age 84, Houston. + + 5 photographs marked _Green Cumby_ have been assigned to this + manuscript--the 'Green Cumby' photos are attached to the proper + manuscript and the five referred to above are probably pictures of + _John Barker_. + + + JOHN BARKER, age 84, was born near Cincinnati, Ohio, the property + of the Barker family, who moved to Missouri and later to Texas. He + and his wife live in a neat cottage in Houston, Texas. + + +"I was born a slave. I'm a Malagasser (Madagascar) nigger. I 'member all +'bout dem times, even up in Ohio, though de Barkers brought me to Texas +later on. My mother and father was call Goodman, but dey died when I was +little and Missy Barker raised me on de plantation down near Houston. +Dey was plenty of work and plenty of room. + +"I 'member my grandma and grandpa. In dem days de horned toads runs over +de world and my grandpa would gather 'em and lay 'em in de fireplace +till dey dried and roll 'em with bottles till dey like ashes and den rub +it on de shoe bottoms. You see, when dey wants to run away, dat stuff +don't stick all on de shoes, it stick to de track. Den dey carries some +of dat powder and throws it as far as dey could jump and den jump over +it, and do dat again till dey use all de powder. Dat throwed de common +hounds off de trail altogether. But dey have de bloodhounds, hell +hounds, we calls 'em, and dey could pick up dat trail. Dey run my +grandpa over 100 mile and three or four days and nights and found him +under a bridge. What dey put on him was enough! I seen 'em whip runaway +niggers till de blood run down dere backs and den put salt in de places. + +"I 'spect dere was 'bout 40 or 50 acres in de plantation. Dey worked and +worked and didn't have no dances or church. Dances nothin! + +"My massa and missus house was nice, but it was a log house. They had +big fireplaces what took great big chunks of wood and kep' fire all +night. We lives in de back in a little bitty house like a chicken house. +We makes beds out of posts and slats across 'em and fills tow sacks with +shucks in 'em for mattress and pillows. + +"I seed slaves sold and they was yoked like steers and sold by pairs +sometimes. Dey wasn't 'lowed to marry, 'cause they could be sold and it +wasn't no use, but you could live with 'em. + +"We used to eat possums and dese old-fashioned coons and ducks. +Sometimes we'd eat goats, too. We has plenty cornmeal and 'lasses and we +gets milk sometimes, but we has no fine food, 'cept on Christmas, we +gits some cake, maybe. + +"My grandma says one day dat we all is free, but we stayed with Massa +Barker quite a while. Dey pays us for workin' but it ain't much pay, +'cause de war done took dere money and all. But they was good to us, so +we stayed. + +"I was 'bout 20 when I marries de fust time. It was a big blow-out and I +was scared de whole time. First time I ever tackled marryin'. Dey had a +big paper sack of rice and throwed it all over her and I, enough rice to +last three or four days, throwed away jus' for nothin'. I had on a +black, alpaca suit with frock tail coat and, if I ain't mistaken, a +right white shirt. My wife have a great train on her dress and one dem +things you call a wreath. I wore de loudest shoes we could find, what +you call patent leather. + +"Dis here my third wife. We marries in Eagle Pass and comes up to de +Seminole Reservation and works for de army till we goes to work for de +Pattersons, and we been here 23 years now. + +"Ghosties? I was takin' care of a white man when he died and I seed +something 'bout three feet high and black. I reckon I must have fainted +'cause they has de doctor for me. And on dark nights I seed ghosties +what has no head. Dey looks like dey wild and dey is all in different +performance. When I goin' down de road and feel a hot steam and look +over my shoulder I can see 'em plain as you standin' dere. I seed 'em +when my wife was with me, but she can't see 'em, 'cause some people +ain't gifted to see 'em. + + + + +420133 + + + JOE BARNES, 89, was born in Tyler Co., Texas, on Jim Sapp's + plantation. He is very feeble, but keeps his great grandchildren in + line while their mother works. They live in Beaumont. Joe is tall, + slight, and has gray hair and a stubby gray mustache. In his kind, + gentle voice he relates his experiences in slavery days. + + +"Dey calls me Paul Barnes, but my name ain't Paul, it am Joe. My massa +was Jim Sapp, up here in Tyler County, and missus' name was Ann. De Sapp +place was big and dey raise' a sight of cotton and corn. Old massa Jim +he have 'bout 25 or 30 slaves. + +"My mammy's name was Artimisi, but dey call her Emily, and pa's name +Jerry Wooten, 'cause he live on de Wooten place. My steppa named Barnes +and I taken dat name. My parents, dey have de broomstick weddin'. + +"When I's a chile us play marbles and run rabbits and ride de stick hoss +and de like. When I gits more bigger, us play ball, sort of like +baseball. One time my brudder go git de hosses and dey lots of rain and +de creek swoll up high. De water so fast it wash him off he hoss and I +ain't seed him since. Dey never find de body. He's 'bout ten year old +den. + +"Massa live in de big box house and de quarters am in a row in de back. +Some of dem box and some of dem log. Dey have two rooms. Every day de +big, old cowhorn blow for dinner and us have de little tin cup what us +git potlicker in and meat and cornbread and salt bacon. Us gits greens, +too. De chimneys 'bout four feet wide and dey cooks everything in de +fireplace. Dey have pots and ovens and put fire below and 'bove 'em. + +"I used to wear what I calls a one-button cutaway. It was jis' a shirt +make out of homespun with pleats down front. Dey make dey own cloth dem +time. + +"Massa marry de folks in de broomstick style. Us don' have de party but +sometime us sing and play games, like de round dance. + +"Dey give de little ones bacon to suck and tie de string to de bacon and +de other round dey wrists, so dey won't swallow or lose de bacon. For de +little bits of ones dey rings de bell for dey mommers to come from de +field and nuss 'em. + +"After freedom come us stay a year and den move to Beaumont and us work +in de sawmill for Mr. Jim Long. De fust money I git I give to my mammy. +Me and mammy and stepdaddy stays in Beaumont two years den moves to +Tyler and plants de crop. But de next year us move back to Beaumont on +de Langham place and mammy work for de Longs till she die. + +"When I git marry I marry Dicey Allen and she die and I never marry no +more. I worked in sawmillin' and on de log pond and allus gits by pretty +good. I ain't done no work much de last ten year, I's too old. + +"I sort a looks after my grandchillen and I sho' loves dem. I sits +'round and hurts all de time. It am rheumatism in de feets, I reckon. I +got six grandchillen and three great-grandchillen and dat one you hears +cryin', dat de baby I's raisin' in dere. + +"I's feared I didn't tell you so much 'bout things way back, but da +truth am, I can't 'member like I used to. + + + + +420166 + + + ARMSTEAD BARRETT, born in 1847, was a slave of Stafford Barrett, + who lived in Huntsville, Texas. He is the husband of Harriett + Barrett. Armstead has a very poor memory and can tell little about + early days. He and Harriet receive old age pensions. + + +"I's really owned by Massa Stafford Barrett, but my mammy 'longed to +Massa Ben Walker and was 'lowed to keep me with her. So after we'uns got +free, I lives with my daddy and mammy and goes by de name of Barrett. +Daddy's name was Henry Barrett and he's brung to Texas from Richmond, in +Virginny, and mammy come from Kentucky. Us all lived in Huntsville. I +waited on Miss Ann and mammy was cook. + +"Old massa have doctor for us when us sick. We's too val'ble. Jus' like +to de fat beef, massa am good to us. Massa go to other states and git +men and women and chile slaves and bring dem back to sell, 'cause he +spec'lator. He make dem wash up good and den sell dem. + +"Mos' time we'uns went naked. Jus' have on one shirt or no shirt a-tall. + +"I know when peace 'clared dey all shoutin'. One woman hollerin' and a +white man with de high-steppin' hoss ride clost to her and I see him git +out and open he knife and cut her wide 'cross de stomach. Den he put he +hat inside he shirt and rid off like lightnin'. De woman put in wagon +and I never heered no more 'bout her. + +"I didn't git nothin' when us freed. Only some cast-off clothes. Long +time after I rents de place on halves and farms most my life. Now I's +too old to work and gits a pension to live on. + +"I seems to think us have more freedom when us slaves, 'cause we have no +'sponsibility for sickness den. We have to take care all dat now and de +white man, he beats de nigger out what he makes. Back in de old days, de +white men am hones'. All the nigger knowed was hard work. I think de +cullud folks ought to be 'lowed more privileges in votin' now, 'cause +dey have de same 'sponsibility as white men and day more and more +educated and brighter and brighter. + +"I think our young folks pretty sorry. They wont do right, but I 'lieve +iffen dey could git fair wages dey'd do better. Dey git beat out of what +dey does, anyway. + +"I 'member a owner had some slaves and de overseer had it in for two of +dem. He'd whip dem near every day and dey does all could be did to +please him. So one day he come to de field and calls one dem slaves and +dat slave draps he hoe and goes over and grabs dat overseer. Den de +other slave cut dat overseer's head right slap off and throwed it down +one of de rows. De owner he fools 'round and sells dem two slaves for +$800.00 each and dat all de punishment dem two slaves ever got. + + + + +420167 + + + HARRIET BARRETT, 86, was born in Walker Co., Texas, in 1851, a + slave of Steve Glass. She now lives in Palestine, Texas. + + +"Massa Steve Glass, he own my pappy and mammy and me, until the war +freed us. Pappy's borned in Africy and mammy in Virginy, and brung to +Texas 'fore de war, and I's borned in Texas in 1851. I's heered my +grandpa was wild and dey didn't know 'bout marryin' in Africy. My +brother name Steve Glass and I dunno iffen I had sisters or not. + +"Dey put me to cookin' when I's a li'l kid and people says now dat Aunt +Harriet am de bes' cook in Madisonville. Massa have great big garden and +plenty to eat. I's cook big skillet plumb full corn at de time and us +all have plenty meat. Massa, he step out and kill big deer and put in de +great big pot and cook it. Then us have cornbread and syrup. + +"Us have log quarters with stick posts for bed and deerskin stretch over +it. Den us pull moss and throw over dat. I have de good massa, bless he +soul. Missy, she plumb good. She sick all de time and dey never have +white chillen. Dey live in big, log house, four rooms in it and de great +hall both ways through it. + +"Massa, he have big bunch slaves and work dem long as dey could see and +den lock 'em up in de quarters at night to keep 'em from runnin' off. De +patterrollers come and go through de quarters to see if all de niggers +dere. Dey walk right over us when us sleeps. + +"Some slave run off, gwine to de north, and massa he cotch him and give +him thirty-nine licks with rawhide and lock dem up at night, too, and +keep chain on him in daytime. + +"I have de good massa, bless he soul, and missy she plumb good. I'll +never forgit dem. Massa 'low us have holiday Saturday night and go to +nigger dance if it on 'nother plantation. Boy, oh boy, de tin pan +beatin' and de banjo pickin' and de dance all night long. + +"When de war start, white missy die, and massa have de preacher. She was +white angel. Den massa marry Missy Alice Long and she de bad woman with +us niggers. She hard on us, not like old missy. + +"I larned lots of remedies for sick people. Charcoal and onions and +honey for de li'l baby am good, and camphor for de chills and fever and +teeth cuttin'. I's boil red oak bark and make tea for fever and make +cactus weed root tea for fever and chills and colic. De best remedy for +chills and fever am to git rabbit foot tie on string 'round de neck. + +"Massa, he carry me to war with him, 'cause I's de good cook. In dat New +Orleans battle he wounded and guns roarin' everywhere. Dey brung massa +in and I's jus' as white as he am den. Dem Yankees done shoot de roof +off de house. I nuss de sick and wounded clean through de war and seed +dem dyin' on every side of me. + +"I's most scared to death when de war end. Us still in New Orleans and +all de shoutin' dat took place 'cause us free! Dey crowds on de streets +and was in a stir jus' as thick as flies on de dog. Massa say I's free +as him, but iffen I wants to cook for him and missy I gits $2.50 de +month, so I cooks for him till I marries Armstead Barrett, and then us +farm for de livin'. Us have big church weddin' and I has white loyal +dress and black brogan shoes. Us been married 51 years now. + + + + +420150 + + + JOHN BATES, 84, was born in Little Rock, Arkansas, a slave of Mock + Bateman. When still very young, John moved with his mother, a slave + of Harry Hogan, to Limestone Co., Texas. John now lives in + Corsicana, supported by his children and an old age pension. + + +"My pappy was Ike Bateman, 'cause his massa's name am Mock Bateman, and +mammy's name was Francis. They come from Tennessee and I had four +brothers and six sisters. We jes' left de last part of de name off and +call it Bates and dat's how I got my name. Mammy 'longed to Massa Harry +Hogan and while I's small us move to Texas, to Limestone County, and I +don't 'member much 'bout pappy, 'cause I ain't never seed him since. + +"Massa Hogan was a purty good sort of fellow, but us went hongry de fust +winter in Texas. He lived in de big log house with de hallway clean +through and a gallery clean 'cross de front. De chimney was big 'nough +to burn logs in and it sho' throwed out de heat. It was a good, big +place and young massa come out early and holler for us to git up and be +in de field. + +"Missy Hogan was de good woman and try her dead level best to teach me +to read and write, but my head jes' too thick, I jes' couldn't larn. My +Uncle Ben he could read de Bible and he allus tell us some day us be +free and Massa Harry laugh, haw, haw, haw, and he say, 'Hell, no, yous +never be free, yous ain't got sense 'nough to make de livin' if yous was +free.' Den he takes de Bible 'way from Uncle Ben and say it put de bad +ideas in he head, but Uncle gits 'nother Bible and hides it and massa +never finds it out. + +"We'uns goes to de big baptisin' one time and it's at de big sawmill +tank and 50 is baptise' and I's in dat bunch myself. But dey didn't have +no funerals for de slaves, but jes' bury dem like a cow or a hoss, jes' +dig de hole and roll 'em in it and cover 'em up. + +"War come and durin' dem times jes' like today nearly everybody knows +what gwine on, news travels purty fast, and iffen de slaves couldn't git +it with de pass dey slips out after dark and go in another plantation by +de back way. Course, iffen dem patterrollers cotch dem it jus' too bad +and dey gits whip. + +"When de news comes in dat us free, Massa Harry never call us up like +everybody else did the slaves, us has to go up and ask him 'bout it. He +come out on de front gallery and says we is free and turns 'round and +goes in de house without 'nother word. We all sho' feels sorry for him +the way he acts and hates to leave him, but we wants to go. We knowed he +wasn't able to give us nothin' so begins to scatter and 'bout ten or +fifteen days Massa Harry dies. I think he jes' grieve himself to death, +all he trouble comin' on him to once. + +"Us worked on diff'rent farms till I marries and my fust wife am Emma +Williams and a cullud preacher marries us at her house. Us picked cotton +after dat and den I rents a place on de halvers for five year and after +sev'ral years I buys eighty acres of land. Fin'ly us done paid dat out +and done some repairs and den us sep'rate after livin' twenty-three year +together. So I gives dat place to her and de six chillen and I walks out +ready to start all over 'gain. + +"Then I meets Sarah Jones and us marries, but she gives me de +divorcement. All dis time I works on a farm for de day wages, den I +rents 'nother farm on de halvers on de black land and stays dere sev'ral +year. Fin'ly I gits de job workin' at de cotton oil mill in Corsicana +and stays at dat job till dey says I's too old. I done buy dis li'l home +here and now has a place to live. Sarah done come back to me and us has +seven chillen. One of de boys works at de cotton oil mill and two works +at de compress right here in Corsicana and one works at de beer place in +Dallas. + +"Us raises a li'l on dese two lots and de chillen brings some from de +farm, I mean my fust wife's chillen, and with de pension check us manage +to live a li'l longer. Us boys pays de taxes and de insurance for us. + + + + +420306 + + + HARRISON BECKETT, born a slave of I.D. Thomas of San Augustine, + Texas, now lives in Beaumont. A great-grandson climbed into + Harrison's lap during the interview, and his genial face lit up + with a smile. He chuckled as he told of his own boyhood days, and + appeared to enjoy reminiscing. At times he uses big words, some of + his own coining. + + +"I's 'mong de culls now, like a hoss what am too old. I's purty small +yit when 'mancipation comes and didn't have no hard work. Old Massa have +me and de other li'l niggers keep de stock out de fields. Us li'l +boogers have to run and keep de cows out de corn and de cotton patch. +Dat ought to been 'nough to keep us out of debbilment. + +"It come to pass my mammy work in de field. Her name Cynthia Thomas and +daddy's name Isaac Thomas. But after freedom he goes back to Florida and +find out he people and git he real name, and dat am Beckett. Dat 'bout +ten years after 'mancipation he go back to he old home in Florida. +Mammy's people was de Polkses, in Georgia. Mammy come in from de field +at nine or ten o'clock at night and she be all wore out and too tired to +cook lots of times. But she have to git some food for us. We all had a +tin pan and git round de table and dat like a feast. But lots of times +she's so tired she go to bed without eatin' nothin' herself. + +"My sisters was Ellen and Sani and Georgy-Ann and Cindy and Sidi-Ann. +Dey's all big 'nough to work in de field. My brudders name Matthew and +Ed and Henry and Harry, what am me, and de oldes' one am General Thomas. + +"Dey more'n a hundred head of black folks on Massa Thomas' two farms, +and 'bout a hundred fifty acres in each farm. One de farms in iron ore, +what am red land, and de other in gray land, half sand and half black +dirt. + +"Us slaves live in pole houses and some in split log houses, with two +rooms, one for to sleep in and one for to cook in. Day ain't +no glass windows, jus' holes in de walls. Dere was jack beds to sleep +on, made out of poles. Dey has four legs and ain't nail to de walls. + +"Old Massa he care for he hands purty well, considerin' everything. In +ginnin' time he 'low de women to pick up cotton from de ground and make +mattresses and quilts. He make some cloth and buy some. A woman weave +all de time and when de shickle jump out on de floor I picks it up. I +used to could knit socks and I was jes' a li'l boy then, but I keep +everything in 'membrance. + +"Dey have some school and de chillen larnt readin' and writin', and +manners and behaviour, too. Sometime dey git de broke-down white man to +be teacher. But us didn't know much and it taken ten years or more after +freedom to git de black men de qualification way he could handle things. + +"One time us boys git some watermillions out in de bresh and hit 'em or +drap 'em to break 'em open. Dere come massa and cotch us not workin', +but eatin' he watermillions. He tell my daddy to whip me. But lots of +times when us sposed to mind de calves, us am out eatin' watermillions +in de bresh. Den de calves git out and massa see dem run and cotch us. + +"Old massa was kind and good, though. He have partiality 'bout him, and +wouldn't whip nobody without de cause. He whip with de long, keen switch +and it didn't bruise de back, but sho' did sting. When he git real mad, +he pull up you shirt and whip on de bare hide. One time he whippin' me +and I busts de button off my shirt what he holdin' on to, and runs +away. I tries to outrun him, and dat tickle him. I sho' give de ground +fits with my feets. But dem whippin's done me good. Dey break me up from +thievin' and make de man of me. + +"De way dey dress us li'l nigger boys den, dey give us a shirt what come +way down 'tween de knees and ankles. When de weather am too cold, dey +sometimes give us pants. + +"De white preachers come round and preach. Dey have de tabernacle like a +arbor and cullud folks come from all round to hear de Gospel 'spounded. +Most every farm have de cullud man larnin' to preach. I used to 'long to +de Methodists but now I 'longs to de Church of Christ. + +"Massa Thomas, he de wholesale merchant and git kilt in New Orleans. A +big box of freight goods fall on him, a box 'bout a yard square on de +end and six yards long. He's carryin' back some good for to make +exchangement and dey pullin' up de box with pulley and rope and it fall +on him. De New Orleans folks say it am de accidentment, but de rest say +de rope am cut. One of massa's old friends was Lawyer Brooks. He used to +firmanize de word. + +"Massa have two boys, Mr. Jimmie and Li'l Ide and dey both goes to de +war. Li'l Ide, he go up in Arkansas and dey say when dat first cannon +busts at Li'l Rock, he starts runnin' and never stops till he gits back +home. I don't see how he could do dat, 'cause Li'l Rock am way far off, +but dat what dey say. Den de men comes to git 'serters and dey gits Li'l +Ide and takes him back. Mr. Jimmie, he didn't break de ranks. He stood +he ground. + +"Mammy and dem tell me when war am over de boss and he wife, dey calls +de slaves up in de bunch and tells 'em, 'You's free as I is. Keep on or +quit, if you wants. You don't have to stay no further, you's free +today.' Dat near June 19th, and all of 'em stays. Massa say, 'Go 'head +and finish de crop and I feed you and pay you.' Dey all knowed when he +kilt de hawgs us git plenty of meat. Dat young massa say all dat, 'cause +old massa done git kilt. + +"It's at Panola County where I first hears of de Klux. Dey call dem +White Caps den. Dey move over in Panola County and ranges at de place +call Big Creek Merval by McFaddin Creek. Dey's purty rough. De +landowners tell dey niggers not to kill de White Caps but to scare dem +'way. At night dey come knock and if you don't open it dey pry it open +and run you out in de field. Dey run de niggers from Merryville round +Longview. Dey some good men in de Klux and some bad men. But us work +hard and go home and dey ain't bother us none. + +"Dey used to be a nigger round dere, call Bandy Joe. He git kilt at +Nacogdoches fin'ly. He could turn into anything. De jedge of he parish +was Massa Lee and he say dey ought let Bandy Joe live, so dey could larn +he art. Dey done try cotch him de long time, and maybe be holdin' him +and first thing they know he gone and dey left holdin' he coat. Dey +shoot at him and not hurt him. He tell he wife dey ain't no kind bullet +can hurt him but de silver bullet. + +"Dat Bandy Joe, he say he a spirit and a human both. Iffen he didn't +want you to see him you jus' couldn't see him. Lots of folks liked him. +De jedge say he wish he could'a been brung to town, so he could 'zamine +him 'bout he gifts. De jedge knowed Bandy Joe could dis'pear jus' like +nothin', and he like to hear he quotation how he git out he skin. I'd +like to know dat myself. + +"I 'magines I seed ghosties two, three times. I used to range round at +nighttime. I rides through a old slavery field and de folks tell me, +'Harry, you better be careful gwine 'cross dat old field. They's things +dere what makes mules run 'way. One night it am late and my mule run +'way. I make my mind I go back and see what he run from and somethin' am +by de fence like de bear stand up straight. It stand dere 'bout fifteen +minutes while I draws my best 'pinion of it. I didn't get any nearer dan +to see it. A man down de road tell me de place am hanted and he dunno +how many wagons and mules git pull by dat thing at dat place. + +"One time I's livin' 'nother place and it am 'twixt sundown and dusk. I +had a li'l boy 'hind me and I seed a big sow with no head comin' over de +fence. My ma, she allus say what I see might be 'magination and to turn +my head and look 'gain and I does dat. But it still dere. Den I seed a +hoss goin' down de road and he drag a chain, and cross de bridge and +turn down de side road. But when I git to de side road I ain't seed no +hoss or nothin'. I didn't say nothin' to de li'l boy 'hind me on de mule +till I gits most home, den asks him did he see anythin'. He say no. I +wouldn't tell him 'fore dat, 'cause I 'fraid he light out and outrun me +and I didn't want to be by myself with dem things. When I gits home and +tell everybody, dey say dat a man name McCoy, what was kilt dere and I +seed he spirit. + +"I's 'bout twenty-one when I marries Mandy Green. Us has twelve chillen, +and a world of grandchillen. I travels all over Louisiana and Texas in +my time, and come here three year ago. My son he work in de box fact'ry +here, and he git a bodily injurement while he workin' and die, and I +come here to de burial and I been here ever since. + + + + +420269 + + + FRANK BELL, 86, was a slave of Johnson Bell, who ran a saloon in + New Orleans. Frank lives in Madisonville, Texas. + + +"I was owned by Johnson Bell and born in New Orleans, in Louisiana. +'Cordin' to the bill of sale, I'm eighty-six years old, and my master +was a Frenchman and was real mean to me. He run saloon and kept bad +women. I don't know nothing 'bout my folks, if I even had any, 'cept +mama. They done tell me she was a bad woman and a French Creole. + +"I worked 'round master's saloon, kep' everything cleaned up after +they'd have all night drinkin' parties, men and women. I earned nickels +to tip off where to go, so's they could sow wild oats. I buried the +nickels under rocks. If master done cotch me with money, he'd take it +and beat me nearly to death. All I had to eat was old stuff those people +left, all scraps what was left. + +"One time some bad men come to master's and gits in a shootin' scrape +and they was two men kilt. I sho' did run. But master cotch me and make +me take them men to the river and tie a weight on them, so they'd sink +and the law wouldn't git him. + +"The clothes I wore was some master's old ones. They allus had holes in +them. Master he stay drunk nearly all time and was mean to his slave. +I'm the only one he had, and didn't cost him nothing. He have bill of +sale made, 'cause the law say he done stole me when I'm small child. +Master kept me in chains sometimes. He shot several men. + +"I didn't have no quarters but stays 'round the place and throw old sack +down and lay there and sleep. I'm 'fraid to run, 'cause master say he'd +hunt me and kill nigger. + +"When I's 'bout seventeen I marries a gal while master on drunk spell. +Master he run her off, and I slips off at night to see her, but he finds +it out. He takes a big, long knife and cuts her head plumb off, and ties +a great, heavy weight to her and makes me throw her in the river. Then +he puts me in chains and every night he come give me a whippin', for +long time. + +"When war come, master swear he not gwine fight, but the Yankees they +captures New Orleans and throws master in a pen and guards him. He gets +a chance and 'scapes. + +"When war am over he won't free me, says I'm valuable to him in his +trade. He say, 'Nigger, you's suppose to be free but I'll pay you a +dollar a week and iffen you runs off I'll kill you.' So he makes me do +like befo' the war, but give me 'bout a dollar a month, 'stead week. + +"He say I cost more'n I'm worth, but he won't let me go. Times I don't +know why I didn't die befo' I'm growed, sleepin' on the ground, winter +and summer, rain and snow. But not much snow there. + +"Master helt me long years after the war. If anybody git after him, he +told them I stay 'cause I wants to stay, but told me if I left he'd kill +him 'nother nigger. I stayed till he gits in a drunk brawl one night +with men and women and they gits to shootin' and some kilt. Master got +kilt. Then I'm left to live or die, so I wanders from place to place. I +nearly starved to death befo' I'd leave New Orleans, 'cause I couldn't +think master am dead and I'm 'fraid. Finally I gits up nerve to leave +town, and stays the first night in white man's barn. I never slep'. +Every time I hears something, I jumps up and master be standin' there, +lookin' at me, but soon's I git up he'd leave. Next night I slep' out in +a hay field, and master he git right top of a tree and start hollerin at +me. I never stays in that place. I gits gone from that place. I gits +back to town fast as my legs carry me. + +"Then I gits locked up in jail. I don't know what for, never did know. +One the men says to me to come with him and takes me to the woods and +gives me an ax. I cuts rails till I nearly falls, all with chain locked +'round feet, so I couldn't run off. He turns me loose and I wanders +'gain. Never had a home. Works for men long 'nough to git fifty, sixty +cents, then starts roamin' 'gain, like a stray dog like. + +"After long time I marries Feline Graham. Then I has a home and we has a +white preacher marry us. We has one boy and he farms and I lives with +him. I worked at sawmill and farms all my life, but never could make +much money. + +"You know, the nigger was wild till the white man made what he has out +of the nigger. He done ed'cate them real smart. + + + + +420193 + + + Aunt VIRGINIA BELL, 1205 Ruthven St., Houston, was born a slave + near Opelousas, Louisiana, on the plantation of Thomas Lewis. + Although she remembers being told she was born on Christmas Day, + she does not know the year, but says she guesses she is about 88 + years old. + + +"Well, suh, the fus' question you ask me, 'bout how old I is, I don' +know 'zactly. You see it ain't like things is today. The young folks can +tell you their 'zact age and everything, but in those days we didn' pay +much 'tention to such things. But I knows I was bo'n in slavery times +and my pappy tol' me I was bo'n on a Christmas Day, but didn' 'member +jus' what year. + +"We was owned by Massa Lewis. Thomas Lewis was his name, and he was a +United States lawyer. I ain't gwineter talk 'gainst my white folks like +some cullud folks do, 'cause Massa Lewis was a mighty fine man and so +was Miss Mary, and they treated us mighty good. + +"Massa had a big plantation near Opelousas and I was bo'n there. I +'member the neighbor folks used to bring their cotton to the gin on his +farm for ginnin' and balin'. My mother's name was Della. That was all, +jus' Della. My pappy's name was Jim Blair. Both of them was from +Virginny, but from diff'rent places, and was brought to Louisiana by +nigger traders and sold to Massa Lewis. I know my pappy was lots older +than my mother and he had a wife and five chillen back in Virginny and +had been sold away from them out here. Then he and my mother started a +family out here. I don' know what become of his family back in Virginny, +'cause when we was freed he stayed with us. + +"When I got old enough I was housegirl and used to carry notes for Miss +Mary to the neighbors and bring back answers. Miss Mary would say, 'Now, +Virginny, you take this note to sech and sech place and be sure and be +back in sech and sech time,' and I allus was. + +"Massa Lewis had four or five families of us slaves, but we used to have +some fun after work and us young folks would skip rope and play ring +games. Durin' week days the field hands would work till the sun was jus' +goin' down and then the overseer would holler 'all right' and that was +the signal to quit. All hands knocked off Sat'day noon. + +"We didn' have no schoolin' or preachin'. Only the white folks had them, +but sometimes on Sundays we'd go up to the house and listen to the white +folks singin'. + +"Iffen any of the slave hands wanted to git married, Massa Lewis would +git them up to the house after supper time, have the man and woman jine +hands and then read to them outen a book. I guess it was the Scriptures. +Then he'd tell 'em they was married but to be ready for work in the +mornin'. Massa Lewis married us 'cordin' to Gospel. + +"Massa used to feed us good, too, and we had plenty clothes. Iffen we +got took sick, we had doctor treatment, too. Iffen a hand took sick in +the field with a misery, they was carried to their quarters and Massa or +Miss Mary would give them a dose of epecac and make them vomit and would +sen' for the doctor. They wouldn' fool none iffen one of us took sick, +but would clean us out and take care of us till we was well. + +"There was mighty little whippin' goin' on at our place, 'cause Massa +Lewis and Miss Mary treated us good. They wasn't no overseer goin' to +whip, 'cause Massa wouldn' 'low him to. Le's see, I don' rec'lec' more +than two whippin's I see anyone git from Massa, and that has been so +long ago I don' rec'lec' what they was for. + +"When the War done come 'long it sho' changed things, and we heerd this +and that, but we didn' know much what it was about. Then one day Massa +Lewis had all the wagons loaded with food and chairs and beds and other +things from the house and our quarters, and I heerd him say we was +movin' to Polk County, way over in Texas. I know it took us a long time +to git there, and when we did I never see so much woods. It sho' was +diff'rent from the plantation. + +"I had to work in the fields, same as the res', and we stayed there +three years and made three crops of cotton, but not so much as on our +old place, 'cause there wasn't so much clearin'. Then one day Massa +Lewis tol' us we was free, jus' as free as he was--jus' like you take +the bridle offen a hoss and turn him loose. We jus' looked 'roun as +iffen we hadn' good sense. We didn' have nothin' nor nowhere to go, and +Massa Lewis say iffen we finish makin' de crop, he would take us back to +Opelousas and give us a place to stay and feed us. So after pickin' we +goes back and when we git there we sees where those rascal Yankees +'stroyed everything--houses burned, sugar kettles broke up. It looked +mighty bad. + +"Massa Lewis hadn' no money, but he fixed us up a place to stay and give +us what he could to eat, but things was mighty hard for a while. I know +pappy used to catch rabbits and take them to town and sell them or trade +them for somethin' to eat, and you know that wasn't much, 'cause you +can't git much for a little ol' rabbit. + +"Then the Provo' Marshal, that was his name, give us a order for things +to put in a crop with and to live till we made the crop. 'Course, I +guess we wasn' as bad off as some, 'cause white folks knew we was Massa +Lewis' folks and didn' bother us none. + +Then I got married to John Bell, and it was a scripture weddin', too. He +died 28 years ago, but I has stayed married to him ever since. We had +thirteen chillen, but they is all dead now 'cept four, but they was +raised up right and they is mighty good to they ol' mammy. + + + + +420114 + + +[Illustration: Edgar and Minerva Bendy] + + + EDGAR BENDY, 90 odd years, was the slave of Henry Bendy, of + Woodville, Texas, has to make an effort to remember and is forced + to seek aid from his wife, Minerva, at certain points in his story. + Edgar has lived in Woodville all his life. + + +"I's a good size' boy when de war gwine on and I seed de soldiers come +right here in Woodville. A big bunch of dem come through and dey have +cannons with dem. My marster he didn't go to war, 'cause he too old, I +guess. + +"I's born right here and done live hereabouts every since. Old man Henry +Bendy, he my marster and he run de store here in Woodville and have de +farm, too. I didn't do nothin' 'cept nuss babies. I jes' jump dem up and +down and de old marster hire me out to nuss other white folks chillen, +big and little. + +"My daddy name' Jack Crews and my mammy was Winnie. Both of dem worked +on de farm and I never seed dem much. I didn't have no house of my own, +'cause de marster, he give me de room in he house. He have lots of +slaves and 'bout 100 acres in cult'vation. He gave dem plenty to eat and +good homespun clothes to wear. He was mighty good. + +"Marster have de plank house and all de things in it was home-made. De +cook was a old cullud woman and I eat at de kitchen table and have de +same what de white folks eats. Us has lots of meat, deer meat and possum +and coon and sich, and us sets traps for birds. + +"Dey ain't nothin' better dat go in de wood dan de big, fat possum. Dey +git fat on black haws and acorns and chinquapin and sich. Chinquapin is +good for people to eat and to roast. I used to be plumb give up to be de +best hunter in Tyler and in de whole country. I kilt more deer dan any +other man in de county and I been guide for all de big men what comes +here to hunt. My wife, Minerva, she used to go huntin' with me. + +"I kep' on huntin' and huntin' till de Jack-a-my-lanterns git after me. +Dat a light you sees all 'round you. Dey follow all 'long and dey stop +you still. Den one time it git all over me. Come like de wind, blow, +blow, and come jes' like fire all on my arm and my clothes and things. When +dat git after me I quit huntin' at nighttime and ain't been huntin' +since. + +"One time I fishin' on de creek and I ain't got no gun, and I look up +and dere a big, wild cat. He never pay me no mind, no more dan nothin', +but dat ain't made no diff'rence to me. I jes' flew in dat creek! + +"I used to belong to de lodge but when I git so old I couldn't pay my +jews, I git unfinancial and I ain't a member no more. + + + + +420174 + + + MINERVA BENDY, 83, was born a slave to Lazarus Goolsby, Henry Co. + Alabama, who brought her to Texas when she was five. They settled + near Woodville, where Minerva still lives. + + +"My earlies' 'membrance was de big, white sandy road what lead 'way from +de house. It was clean and white and us chillen love to walk in de soft, +hot sand. Dat in Henry County, Alabama, where I's born and my old +marster was Lazarus Goolsby and he have de big plantation with lots of +nigger folks. I 'member jus' as good as yesterday wigglin' my toes in +dat sandy road and runnin' 'way to de grits mill where dey grind de +meal. Dat have de big water wheel dat sing and squeak as it go 'round. + +"Aunt Mary, she make all us little chillen sleep in de heat of de day +under de big, spreadin' oak tree in de yard. My mama have 17 chillen. +Her name Dollie and my daddy name Herd. + +"I's jus' a little chile in dem days and I stay in de house with de +white folks. Dey raise me a pet in de family. Missus Goolsby, she have +two gals and dey give me to de oldest. When she die dey put me in de bed +with her but iffen I knowed she dyin' dey wouldn't been able to cotch +me. She rub my head and tell her papa and mama, 'I's gwine 'way but I +wants you promise you ain't never whip my little nigger.' Dey never did. + +"I's jus' 'bout five year old when us make de trip to Texas. Us come +right near Woodville and make de plantation. It a big place and dey +raise corn and cotton and cane. We makes our own sugar and has many as +six kettle on de furnace at one time. Dey raise dey tobacco, too. I's +sick and a old man he say he make me tobacco medicine and dey dry de +leafs and make dem sweet like sugar and feed me like candy. + +"I 'member old marster say war broke out and Capt. Collier's men was +a-drillin' right dere south of Woodville. All de wives and chillen watch +dem drill. Dey was lots of dem, but I couldn't count. De whole shebang +from de town go watch dem. + +"Four of the Goolsby boys goes to dat war and dey call John and Ziby and +Zabud and Addison. Zabud, he git wounded, no he git kilt, and Addison he +git wounded. I worry den, 'cause I ain't see no reason for dem to have +to die. + +"After us free dey turn us loose in de woods and dat de bad time, 'cause +most us didn't know where to turn. I wasn't raise to do nothin' and I +didn't know how. Dey didn't even give us a hoecake or a slice of bacon. + +"I's a June bride 59 year ago when I git married. De old white Baptist +preacher name Blacksheer put me and dat nigger over dere, Edgar Bendy, +togedder and us been togedder ever since. Us never have chick or chile. +I's such a good nuss I guess de Lawd didn't want me to have none of my +own, so's I could nuss all de others and I 'spect I's nussed most de +white chillen and cullud, too, here in Woodville. + + + + +420177 + + + SARAH BENJAMIN, 82, was born a slave of the Gilbert family, in + Clavin Parish, Louisiana. In 1867 she married Cal Benjamin and they + settled in Corsicana, Texas, where Sarah now lives. + + +"I is Sarah Benjamin and is 82 year old, 'cause my mammy told me I's +born in 1855 in Clavin Parish in Louisiana. Her name was Fannie and my +pappy's name Jack Callahan. There was jus' three of us chillen and I's +de oldest. + +"Marse Gilbert was tol'able good to we'uns, and give us plenty to eat. +He had a smokehouse big as a church and it was full, and in de big +kitchen we all et, chillen and all. De grown folks et first and den de +chillen. Did we have plenty of possums and fish by de barrels full! All +dis was cooked in de racks over de fireplace and it were good. + +"Our clothes was all homespun and de shoes made by de shoemaker. Old +marse wanted all us to go to church and if dey didn't have shoes dey +have something like de moccasin. + +"I don't know how many slaves there was, but it was a lot, maybe 60 or +70. Dey worked hard every day 'cept Sunday. Iffen they was bad they +might git whuppin's, but not too hard, not to de blood. Iffen dey was +still bad, dey puts chains on dem and puts dem in de stocks, 'cause +there wasn't no jail there. + +"Once when I's little, marse stripped me stark modern naked and puts me +on de block, but he wouldn't sell me, 'cause he was bid only $350.00 and +he say no, 'cause I was good and fat. + +"Dey didn't larn us nothin' and iffen you did larn to write, you better +keep it to yourse'f, 'cause some slaves got de thumb or finger cut off +for larnin' to write. When de slaves come in from de fields dey didn't +larn nothin', they jus' go to bed, 'lessen de moonshine nights come and +dey could work in de tobacco patch. De marster give each one de little +tobacco patch and iffen he raised more'n he could use he could sell it. + +"On Christmas we all has de week vacation and maybe de dance. We allus +have de gran' dinner on dat day, and no whuppin's. But dey couldn't +leave de plantation without de pass, even on Christmas. + +"De women had to run de gin in de daytime and de man at night. Dey fed +de old gin from baskets and my mammy fed from dose baskets all day with +de high fever and died dat night. She wouldn't tell de marster she sick, +fer fear she have to take de quinine. + +"De day we was freed, de slaves jus' scattered, 'cepting me. Missy +Gilbert says I wasn't no slave no more but I had to stay and he'p her +for my board 'till I's grown. I stayed 'till I was 'bout 16, den I runs +away and marries Cal Benjamin, and we comes to Texas. Cal and me has six +chillen, but he died 'fore dey was grown. + + + + +420023 + + + JACK BESS was born near Goliad, Texas in 1854, a slave of Steve + Bess who was a rancher. He worked with stock as a very young boy + and this was his duty during and after the Civil War, as he + remained with his boss for three years after emancipation. He then + came to old Ben Ficklin four miles south of the present San Angelo, + Texas, when it was the county seat of Tom Green County and before + there was a San Angelo. He continued his work on ranches here and + has never done any other kind of work. For the past several years + he has been very feeble and has made his home with a daughter in + San Angelo, Texas. + + +Jack who was assisted out of bed and dressed by his grandson, hobbled in +on his cane and said, "I was jes' a small boy workin' on de ranch when I +hear talk 'bout conscription' de men for de war what was agoin' to set +de slaves free. We didn' know hardly what dey was a talkin' 'bout 'cause +we knowed dat would be too good to be true. I jes' keeps on workin' wid +my hosses and my cattle (dere wasn't no sheep den) jes' like dere wasn't +no war, 'cause dat was all I ever knowed how to do. + +"Our ole marster, he wasn't so very mean to us, course he whips us once +and awhile but dat wasn't like de slave holders what had dem colored +drivers. Dey sho' was rough on de slaves. I's been told lots 'bout de +chains and de diffe'nt punishments but our treatment wasn't so bad. Our +beds was pretty good when we uses dem. Lots of de time we jes' sleeps on +de groun', 'specially in summer. + +"Our log huts was comfortable and we had some kind of floors in all of +dem. Some was plank and some was poles but dat was better den de dirt +floors some cabins have. + +"De eats we have was jes' good eats, lots of meats and vegetables and de +like; 'possum and coon and beef and pork all cooked good. Our clothes +was jes' home spun like all de others. + +"We didn' have such a big ranch and not many slaves but we all gits +along. We learns a little 'bout readin' and writin'. + +"I don't 'member any camp meetin's 'til after de war. We had a few den +and on Christmas times we jes' tears up de country. Lawdy! Lawd! Dat +fiddlin' went on all night, and we dance awhile den lay down and sleeps, +den gits up and dances some mo'e. We would have big cakes and +everything good to eat. + +"When we gits sick dey jes' gives us some kind of tea, mostly made from +weeds. Mos' of de time we gits well. + +"When de news comes dat we was free our boss, he say, 'You free now.' +Course we was glad but we didn' know nothin' to do but jes' stay on +dere, and we did 'bout three years and de boss pays us a little by de +month for our work. + +"I's lef' dere den and comes to old Ben Ficklin to work on a ranch. Dat +was before dere was any San Angelo, Texas. I's been here ever since, +jes' a workin' from one ranch to another long as I was able. Now I's +jes' stayin' 'round wid my chillun and dey takes good care of me." + + + + +420170 + + + ELLEN BETTS, 118 N. Live Oak St., Houston, Texas, is 84. All of her + people and their masters came from Virginia and settled in + Louisiana about 1853. Her grandparents belonged to the Green family + and her parents, Charity and William Green, belonged to Tolas + Parsons. Ellen lives with friends who support her. Her sole + belonging is an old trunk and she carries the key on a string + around her neck. + + +"I got borned on de Bayou Teche, clost to Opelousas. Dat in St. Mary's +Parish, in Louisiana, and I belonged to Tolas Parsons, what had 'bout +500 slaves, countin' de big ones and de little ones, and he had God know +what else. When my eyes jes' barely fresh open, Marse Tolas die and will +de hull lot of us to he brother, William Tolas. And I tells you dat +Marse William am de greates' man what ever walk dis earth. Dat's de +truth. I can't lie on him when de pore man's in he grave. + +"When a whuppin' got to be done, old Marse do it heself. He don't 'low +no overseer to throw he gals down and pull up dere dress and whup on +dere bottoms like I hear tell some of 'em do. Was he still livin' I +'spect one part of he hands be with him today. I knows I would. + +"When us niggers go down de road folks say, 'Dem's Parson's niggers. +Don't hit one dem niggers for God's sake, or Parsons sho' eat your +jacket up.' + +"Aunt Rachel what cook in de big house for Miss Cornelia had four +young'uns and dem chillen fat and slick as I ever seen. All de niggers +have to stoop to Aunt Rachel jes' like dey curtsy to Missy. I mind de +time her husband, Uncle Jim, git mad and hit her over de head with de +poker. A big knot raise up on Aunt Rachel's head and when Marse 'quire +'bout it, she say she done bump de head. She dassn't tell on Uncle Jim +or Marse sho' beat him. Marse sho' proud dem black, slick chillen of +Rachels. You couldn't find a yaller chile on he place. He sho' got no +use for mixin' black and white. + +"Marse William have de pretties' place up and down dat bayou, with de +fine house and fine trees and sech. From where we live it's five mile to +Centerville one way and five mile to Patterson t'other. Dey hauls de +lumber from one place or t'other to make wood houses for de slaves. +Sometime Marse buy de furniture and sometime de carpenter make it. + +"Miss Sidney was Marse's first wife and he had six boys by her. Den he +marry de widow Cornelius and she give him four boys. With ten chillen +springin' up quick like dat and all de cullud chillen comin' 'long fast +as pig litters, I don't do nothin' all my days, but nuss, nuss, nuss. I +nuss so many chillen it done went and stunted my growth and dat's why I +ain't nothin' but bones to dis day. + +"When de cullud women has to cut cane all day till midnight come and +after, I has to nuss de babies for dem and tend de white chillen, too. +Some dem babies so fat and big I had to tote de feet while 'nother gal +tote de head. I was sech a li'l one, 'bout seven or eight year old. De +big folks leave some toddy for colic and cryin' and sech and I done +drink de toddy and let de chillen have de milk. I don't know no better. +Lawsy me, it a wonder I ain't de bigges' drunker in dis here country, +countin' all de toddy I done put in my young belly! + +"When late of night come, iffen dem babies wake up and bawl, I set up a +screech and out-screech dem till dey shut dere mouth. De louder day bawl +de louder I bawl. Sometime when Marse hear de babies cry, he come down +and say, 'Why de chillen cry like dat, Ellen?' I say, 'Marse, I git so +hongry and tired I done drink de milk up.' When I talk sassy like dat, +Marse jes' shake he finger at me, 'cause he knowed I's a good one and +don't let no little mite starve. + +"Nobody ever hit me a lick. Marse allus say bein' mean to de young'uns +make dem mean when dey grows up and nobody gwineter buy a mean nigger. +Marse don't even let de chillen go to de big cane patch. He plant little +bitty patches close to de house and each li'l nigger have a patch and he +work it till it got growed. Marse have de house girls make popcorn for +'em and candy. + +"I nuss de sick folks too. Sometime I dose with Blue Mass pills and +sometime Dr. Fawcett leave rhubarb and ipicac and calomel and castor oil +and sech. Two year after de war, I git marry and git chillen of my own +and den I turn into de wet nuss. I wet nuss de white chillen and black +chillen, like dey all de same color. Sometime I have a white'un pullin' +de one side and a black one de other. + +"I wanted to git de papers for midwifin' but, law, I don't never have no +time for larnin' in slave time. If Marse cotch a paper in you hand he +sho' whop you. He don't 'low no bright niggers 'round, he sell 'em +quick. He allus say, 'Book larnin' don't raise no good sugar cane.' De +only larnin' he 'low was when dey larn de cullud chillen de Methodist +catechism. De only writin' a nigger ever git, am when he git born or +marry or die, den Marse put de name in de big book. + +Law, I 'lect de time Marse marry Miss Cornelia. He went on de mail boat +and brung her from New Orleans. She de pretties' woman in de world +almost, 'ceptin' she have de bigges' mouth I nearly ever seed. He brung +her up to de house and all de niggers and boys and girls and cats and +dogs and sech come and salute her. Dere she stand on de gallery, with a +purty white dress on with red stripes runnin' up and down. Marse say to +her, 'Honey, see all de black folks, dey 'longs to you now.' She wave to +us and smile on us and nex' day she give her weddin' dress to my ma. Dat +de fines' dress I ever seen. It was purple and green silk and all de +nigger gals wear dat dress when dey git marry. My sister Sidney wore it +and Sary and Mary. + +"Miss Cornelia was de fines' woman in de world. Come Sunday mornin' she +done put a bucket of dimes on de front gallery and stand dere and throw +dimes to de nigger chillen jes' like feedin' chickens. I sho' right here +to test'fy, 'cause I's right dere helpin' grab. Sometime she done put da +washtub of buttermilk on de back gallery and us chillen bring us gourds +and dip up dat good, old buttermilk till it all git drunk up. Sometime +she fotch bread and butter to de back gallery and pass it out when it +don't even come mealtime. + +"Miss Cornelia set my ma to cuttin' patterns and sewin' right away. She +give all de women a bolt or linsey to make clothes and ma cut de +pattern. Us all have de fine drawers down to de ankle, buttoned with +pretty white buttons on de bottom. Lawsy, ma sho' cut a mite of drawers, +with sewin' for her eleven gals and four boys, too. In de summertime we +all git a bolt of blue cloth and white tape for trimmin', to make Sunday +dresses. For de field, all de niggers git homespun what you make jumpers +out of. I 'lect how Marse say, 'Don't go into de field dirty Monday +mornin'. Scrub youself and put on de clean jumper.' + +"Marse sho' good to dem gals and bucks what cuttin' de cane. When dey +git done makin' sugar, he give a drink call 'Peach 'n Honey' to de women +folk and whiskey and brandy to de men. And of all de dancin' and +caperin' you ever seen! My pa was fiddler and we'd cut de pigeon wing +and cut de buck and every other kind of dance. Sometime pa git tired and +say he ain't gwineter play no more and us gals git busy and pop him corn +and make candy, so to 'tice him to play more. + +"Marse sho' turn over in he grave did he know 'bout some dat 'lasses. +Dem black boys don't care. I seen 'em pull rats out de sugar barrel and +dey taste de sugar and say, 'Ain't nothin' wrong with dat sugar. It +still sweet.' One day a pert one pull a dead scorpion out de syrup +kettle and he jes' laugh and say, 'Marse don't want waste none dis +syrup,' and he lick de syrup right off dat scorpion's body and legs. + +"Lawsy me, I seen thousands and thousands sugar barrels and kettles of +syrup in my day. Lawd knows how much cane old Marse have. To dem cuttin' +de cane it don't seem so much, but to dem what work hour in, hour out, +dem sugar cane fields sho' stretch from one end de earth to de other. +Marse ship hogs and hogs of sugar down de bayou. I seen de river boats +go down with big signs what say, 'Buy dis here 'lasses' on de side. And +he raise a world of rice and 'taters and corn and peanuts, too. + +"When de work slight, us black folks sho have de balls and dinners and +sech. We git all day to barbecue meat down on de bayou and de white +folks come down and eat long side de cullud. + +"When a black gal marry, Marse marry her hisself in de big house. He +marry 'em Saturday, so dey git Sunday off, too. One time de river boat +come bearin' de license for niggers to git marry with. Marse chase 'em +off and say, 'Don't you come truckin' no no-count papers roun' my +niggers. When I marry 'em, dey marry as good as if de Lawd God hisself +marry 'em and it don't take no paper to bind de tie.' Marse don't stand +no messin' 'round, neither. A gal have to be of age and ask her pa and +ma and Marse and Missy, and if dey 'gree, dey go ahead and git marry. +Marse have de marry book to put de name down. + +"One time Marse take me 'long to help tote some chillen. He done write +up to Virginny for to buy fresh hands. Dey a old man dat hobble 'long de +road and de chillen start to throw rocks and de old man turn 'round to +one prissy one and say, 'Go on, young'un, you'll be where dogs can't +bark at you tomorrow. Nex' mornin' us cookin' in de kitchen and all a +sudden dat li'l boy jes' crumple up dead on de floor. Law, we's scairt. +Nobody ever bother dat old man no more, for he sho' lay de evil finger +on you. + +"Marse's brother, Conrad, what was a widdyman, come to live on de +plantation and he had a li'l gal 'bout eight year old. One day she in de +plum orchard playin' with a rattlesnake and Marse Conrad have de fit. De +li'l gal won't let nobody hurt dat snake and she play with him. He won't +bite her. She keeps him 'bout three year, and she'd rub and grease him. +One day he got sick and dey give him some brandy, but he die and old Doc +pickle him in de bottle of brandy. Dat gal git so full of grief dey take +her to de infirm'ry in New Orleans and den one day she up and die. + +"Dat snake ain't all what Doc Fawcett pickle. A slave woman give birth +to a baby gal what have two faces with a strip of hair runnin' 'tween. +Old Doc Fawcett pickle it in de jar of brandy. Old doc start to court +Miss Cornelia when Marse die, but she don't have none of him and he +done went straight 'way and kill hisself. + +"One day a li'l man come ridin' by on a li'l dun hoss so fast you +couldn't see dat hoss tail a-switchin'. He whoopin' and hollerin'. Us +niggers 'gun whoop and holler, too. Den first thing you know de Yanks +and de Democrats 'gun to fight right dere. Dey a high old mountain front +Marse's house and de Yanks 'gun pepper cannon ball down from de top dat +hill. De war met right dere and dem Yanks and Democrats fit for +twenty-four hours straight runnin'. + +"When de bullets starts rainin' down, Marse call us and slip us way back +into de woods, where it so black and deep. Next day, when de fight over, +Marse come out with great big wagons piles full of mess-poke for us to +eat. Dat what us call hog meat. Us sho' glad to 'scape from de Yankees. + +"When us driv back to de plantation, sech a sight I never seen. Law, de +things I can tell. Dem Yanks have kilt men and women. I seed babies pick +up from de road with dere brains bust right out. One old man am drawin' +water and a cannon ball shoots him right in de well. Dey draws him up +with de fishin' line. Dey's a old sugar boat out on de bayou with blood +and sugar runnin' long side de busted barrels. 'Lasses run in de bayou +and blood run in de ditches. Marse have de great big orchard on de road +and it wipe clean as de whistle. Bullets wipe up everythin' and bust dat +sugar cane all to pieces. De house sot far back and 'scape de bullets, +but, law, de time dey have! + +"Dey's awful, awful times after dat. A old cotton dress cost five +dollars and a pound of coffee cost five dollars and a pint cup flour +cost six bits. De Yanks 'round all de time and one day they comes right +in de house where Miss Cornelia eatin' her dinner. Dey march 'round de +table, jes' scoopin' up meat and 'taters and grabbin' cornpone right and +left. Miss Cornelia don't say a word, jes' smile sweet as honey-cake. I +reckon dem sojers might a took de silver and sech only she charm 'em by +bein' so quiet and ladylike. First thing you know dem sojers curtsy to +Missy and take dereself right out de door and don't come back. + +"Den it seem like Marse have all de trouble in de world. He boy, Ned, +die in de war and William, what name for he pa, drink bad all de time. +And after de war dem Ku Kluxers what wear de false faces try to tinker +with Marse's niggers. One day Uncle Dave start to town and a Kluxer ask +him where am he pass. Dat Kluxer clout him but Uncle Dave outrun him in +de cane. Marse grab de hoss and go 'rest dat man and Marse a jedge and +he make dat man pay de fine for hittin' Uncle Dave. After dey hears of +dat, dem old poky faces sho' scairt of old Marse and dey git out from +Opelousas and stays out. When me and my husband, John, come to Texas de +folks say dat Louisiana masters de meanes' in de world and I say right +back at 'em dat dey is good and mean in every spot of de earth. What +more, de Louisiana masters free dere niggers a year befo' any Texas +nigger git free. + +"When 'mancipation come, Marse git on de big block and say, 'You all is +as free as I is, standin' right here. Does you want to stay with me, you +can, and I'll pay you for de work.' All de niggers cheer and say dey +want to stay, but Marse die not long after and all us niggers scatter. + +"I sho' 'lect dat day old Marse die. He won't die till ma gits there. He +keep sayin', "Where's Charity, tell Charity to come." Dey fotch ma from +de cane patch and she hold Marse's hand till he die. Us niggers went to +de graveyard and us sho' cry over old Marse. + +"Marse's brother, Goldham, carries all he hands back to de free country +to turn 'em loose. He say de free country am de ones what's yellin' +'bout slave times, so dey could jes' take care of de niggers. Marse +Goldham so big dat when he stand in de door you couldn't git by him, +'thout he stand sideways. + +"Law, times ain't like dey was in slave days. All my ten chillen is dead +and my old man gone, and now I reckon my time 'bout 'rive. All I got to +do now am pray de Lawd to keep me straight, den when de great day come, +I can march de road to glory. + + + + +420125 + + +[Illustration: Charlotte Beverley] + + + CHARLOTTE BEVERLY was born a slave to Captain Pankey's wife, in + Montgomery County, Texas. She has lived most of her life within a + radius of 60 miles from Houston, and now lives with one of her + children in a little house on the highway between Cleveland and + Shepherd, Texas. She does not know her age, but appears to be about + ninety. + + +"I's born in Montgomery County and I's the mudder of eleven chillen, +four gals and seven boys. My grandma come from Alabama and my daddy was +Strawder Green and he belong to Col. Hughes. My maw named Phyllis and +she belong to Capt. Pankey. + +"There was 'bout forty niggers, big and little, on the plantation. Lawd, +they was good to us. Us didn' know nothin' 'bout bad times and cutting +and whipping and slashing. I had to work in the house and I 'member one +thing I has to do was scrub Mistus' gol' snuffbox twict a week. She kep' +sweet, Scotch snuff and sometimes I takes a pinch out. + +"We used to go to the white folks church and if us couldn' git in we'd +stand round by the door and sing. Mistus wouldn' 'low us dance on the +place but they give us pass to go to dance on nex' plantation, where my +daddy live. + +"Every year they have big Christmas dinner and ham and turkey +and allus feed us good. Us have Christmas party and sing songs. That was +sweet music. + +"Marster have a lovely house, all ceiled and plastered. It was a log +house but it was make all beautiful inside with mirrors and on the board +was lots of silver and china and silver spoons with the gol' linin's and +part of my job was to keep 'em sparklin'. + +"Folks in them times cooks in the fireplace and my auntie, she cook. She +make 'simmon bread and 'tater pone and the like. She mash up 'simmons +with butter and pour sweet milk and flour in it. That make good 'simmon +bread. We has skillets what was flat and deep and set on three legs. + +"The slaves lived in little log houses and sleep on wood beds. The beds +was make three-legged. They make augur hole in side of the house and put +in pieces of wood to make the bed frame, and they put straw and cotton +mattress on them bed. + +"Old marster used to let he slaves have a extry cotton patch to +theyselves and they work it by the moonlight. They could sell that +cotton and have the money for theyselves. + +"My white mistus was a Christian and she'd own her God anywhere. She +used to shout, jus' sit and clap her hands and say, 'Hallalujah.' Once I +seed her shout in church and I thinks something ail her and I run down +the aisle and goes to fannin' her. + +"One of the slaves was a sort-a preacher and sometimes marster 'lowed +him to preach to the niggers, but he have to preach with a tub over his +head, 'cause he git so happy he talk too loud. Somebody from the big +house liable to come down and make him quit 'cause he makin' 'sturbance. + +"I brings water from the well and they have what they call piggins, and +they was little tubs with two handles. Mistus wouldn' 'low me to do any +heavy work. + +"I see sojers and knits socks for 'em by moonshine. Me and my husban' +was married by a Yankee sojer. I was dress in white Tarleyton weddin' +dress and I didn' wear no hoop skirt. I had a pretty wreath of little +white flowers, little bitty, little dainty ones, the pretties' little +things. When I marry, my sister marry too and our husban's was brudders. +My husban' dress in suit of white linen. He sho' look handsome. He give +me a gol' ring and a cup and saucer for weddin' gif'. We git married in +Huntsville and us didn' go no weddin' journey trip. We was so poor we +couldn' go round the house! I's 'bout twenty some year when I marries, +but I don' know jus' how old. We has a big dance that night and the +white folks come, 'cause they likes to see the niggers dance. + +"The white folks had interes' in they cullud people where I live. +Sometimes they's as many as fifty cradle with little nigger babies in +'em and the mistus, she look after them and take care of them, too. She +turn them and dry them herself. She had a little gal git water and help. +She never had no chillen of her own. I'd blow the horn for the mudders +of the little babies to come in from the fields and nurse 'em, in +mornin' and afternoon. Mistus feed them what was old enough to eat +victuals. Sometimes, they mammies take them to the field and fix pallet +on ground for them to lay on. + +"The las' word my old Mistus Pankey say when she die was, 'You take care +of Charlette.' + + + + +420249 + + +[Illustration: Francis Black] + + + FRANCIS BLACK was born at Grand Bluff, Mississippi, about 1850, on + the Jim Carlton plantation. When five years old, she was stolen and + taken to the slave market in New Orleans. Failing to sell her + there, the slave traders took her to Jefferson, Texas, and sold her + to Bill Tumlin. Francis stayed with him five years after she was + freed, then married and moved to Cass County, Texas. She became + blind a year ago, and now lives at the Bagland Old Folks Home, 313 + Elm St., Texarkana, Texas. + + +"My name am Francis Black, and I don't know jes' how old I is, but +'members lots 'bout them slave days. I was a big gal, washin' and +ironin', when they sot the darkies free. From that, I cal'late I'm in my +eighties. + +"I was born in Grand Bluff, in Mississippi, on Old Man Carlton's +plantation, and I was stole from my folks when I was a li'l gal and +never seed them no more. Us kids played in the big road there in +Mississippi, and one day me and 'nother gal is playin' up and down the +road and three white men come 'long in a wagon. They grabs us up and +puts us in the wagon and covers us with quilts. I hollers and yells and +one the men say, 'Shet up, you nigger, or I'll kill you.' I told him, +'Kill me if you wants to--you stole me from my folks.' + +"Them men took us to New Orleans to the big slave market. I had long +hair and they cut it off like a boy and tried to sell me, but I told +them men what looks at me, the men cut my hair off and stole me. The man +what cut my hair off cursed me and said if I didn't hush he'd kill me, +but he couldn't sell us at New Orleans and took us to Jefferson. + +"I never knowed what they done with the other gal, but they sold me to +Marse Bill Tumlin, what run a big livery stable in Jefferson, and I +'longed to him till surrender. I lived in the house with them, 'cause +they had a boy and gal and I did for them. They bought me clothes and +took good care of me but I never seed no money till surrender. I et what +they et, after they got through. Missy say she didn't 'lieve in feedin' +the darkies scraps, like some folks. + +"I played with them two chillen all day, then sot the table. I was so +small I'd git in a chair to reach the dishes out of the safe. I had to +pull a long flybrush over the table whilst the white folks et. + +"Marse Tumlin had a farm 'bout four mile from town, and a overseer, and +I seed him buckle the niggers crost a log and whip them. Marse lived in +Jefferson, heself, and when he'd go to the farm he allus took his boy +with him. We'd be playin' in the barn and Marse call from the house, +'Come on, Jimmie, we're gwine to the farm.' Jimmie allus say to me, +'Come on, nigger, let's ride round the farm.' I'd say, 'I ain't no +nigger.' He'd say, 'Yes, you is, my pa paid $200 for you. He bought you +for to play with me.' + +"Jefferson was a good town till it burned up. I 'members the big fire +what looked like the whole town gwineter burn up. Marse Bill lost his +livery stable in the fire. + +"The Yankee soldiers, all dressed in blue, come to run the town after +the war. Marse Tumlin done told me I'm free, but I stays on till I'm +most growed. Then I works round town and marries Dave Black, and we +moved to Cass County. I raises six chillun but my old man done git so +triflin' and mean I quit him and worked for myself. I come to Texarkana +to work, and allus could earn my own livin' till 'bout a year ago I lost +my seein', and Albert Ragland done took me in his home for the old +folks. They gives me a $10 a month pension now. They is good to me here +and feeds us good. + + + + +420142 + + + OLIVIER BLANCHARD, 95 years old, was a slave of Clairville La San, + who owned a large plantation in Martinville Parish, Louisiana. His + father was a Frenchman and Olivier speaks rather haltingly, as + though it is difficult for him to express his thoughts in English, + for he has talked a species of French all his life. He lives in + Beaumont, Texas. + + +"I was plowing and hoeing before the freedom and I talk more of the +French 'cause I comes from St. Martinville Parish. I was born there in +Louisiana and my mama was Angeline Jean Pierre and she was slave born. +My papa was Olivier Blanchard and he white man carpenter on old +plantation. We belong to Clairville La San and all live on +that place. My papa just plain carpenter but could draw patterns for +houses. I don't know where he larn that work. + +"I was count freeborn and still have one white half sister alive. When +freedom come my mama and papa split up and mama get marry. + +"I pick cotton and mama cook. She make koosh-koosh and cyayah--that last +plain clabber. Mama cook lots of gaspergou and carp and the poisson ami +fish, with the long snout--what they call gar now. I think it eel fish +they strip the skin off and wrap round the hair and make it curly. + +"The Bayou Teche, it run close by and the women do all the clothes with +a big paddle with holes in it to clean them in the bayou. They paddle +them clean on the rocks and then wash them in the water. + +"One time one big bayou 'gator come up and bite a woman's arm off. She +my sister in law. But they keep on washing the clothes in the bayou just +the same. + +"We have plenty to eat and peaches and muscadines and pecans, 'cause +there right smart woods and swamp there. We play in the woods and most +time in the bayou on boats with planks what would float. We had the good +time and had a little pet coon. You know, the coon like sweet things and +he steal our syrup and when we chase him with the switch he hide under +the bed. + +"My old missus was good Catholic and she have us christened and make the +first communion. That not registered, 'cause it before the freedom, but +it were in old St. Martin's church, same old church what stand now. +There was a statue of Pere Jean, the old priest, in front the church and +one of St. Martin, too. + +"Plenty men from St. Martinville go to the war and Archie DeBlieu, he go +to Virginia and fight. The first one to pass our place was John Well +Banks and he was a Yankee going up the Red River. + +"The yellow fever came durin' that war and kill lots. All the big +plantation have the graveyard for the cullud people. That fever so bad +they get the coffin ready before they dead and they so scared that some +weren't dead but they think they are and bury them. There was a white +girl call Colene Sonnier what was to marry Sunday and she take sick +Friday before. She say not to bury her in the ground but they put her +there while they got the tomb ready. When they open the ground grave to +put her in the tomb they find she buried alive and she eat all her own +shoulder and hand away. Her sweetheart, Gart Berrild, he see that +corpse, and he go home and get took with yellow fever and die. + +"They was the old lady what die. She was a terrible soul. One time after +she die I go to get water out of her rain barrel and I had a lamp in one +hand. That old lady's ghost blowed out the lamp and slapped the pitcher +out my hand. After she first die her husband put black dress on her and +tie up the jaw with a rag and my girl look in the room and there that +old lady, Liza Lee, sittin' by the fire. My girl tell her mama and after +three day she go back, and Liza Lee buried but my wife see her sittin' +by the fire. Then she sorry she whip the chile for sayin' she saw Liza +Lee. That old lady, Liza Lee, was a tart and she stay a tart for a long +time. + +"I marry 72 year ago in the Catholic Church in St. Martinville. My wife +call Adeline Chretien and she dead 37 year. We have seven children but +four live now. Frank my only boy live now, in Iowa, in Louisiana, and my +two girls live, Enziede De Querive and Rose Baptiste. + + + + +420199 + + + JULIA BLANKS was born of a slave mother and a three-quarter Indian + father, in San Antonio, in the second year of the Civil War. Her + mother, part French and part Negro, was owned by Mrs. John G. + Wilcox, formerly a Miss Donaldson, who had lived at the White + House, and who gave Julia to her daughter. After the slaves were + freed, Julia continued to live with her mother in San Antonio + until, at fifteen, she married Henry Hall. Five years later her + second marriage took place, at Leon Springs, Texas, where she lived + until moving to the Adams ranch, on the Frio River. Here she raised + her family. After leaving the Adams ranch, Julia and Henry bought + two sections of state land, but after four years they let it go + back because of Henry's ill health, and moved to Uvalde. + + +"I was born in San Antonio, in 1862. My mother's name was Rachael +Miller. I don't know if she was born in Tennessee or Mississippi. I +heard her talk of both places. I don't know nothing about my father, +because he run off when I was about three months old. He was +three-quarter Cherokee Indian. They were lots of Indians then, and my +husband's people come from Savannah, Georgia, and he said they was lots +of Indians there. I had two sisters and one brother and the sisters are +dead but my brother lives somewhere in Arizona. My mother's master's +name was John C. Wilcox. + +"When we was small chillen, they hired my sisters out, but not me. My +grandfather bought my grandmother's time and they run a laundry house. +They hired my mother out, too. + +"You see, my grandmother was free born, but they stole her and sold her +to Miss Donaldson. She was half French. She looked jes' like a French +woman. She wasn't a slave, but she and her brother were stolen and sold. +She said the stage coach used to pass her aunt's house, and one day she +and her brother went down to town to buy some buns, and when they were +comin' back, the stage stopped and asked 'em to ride. She wanted to +ride, but her brother didn't. But they kep' coaxin' 'em till they got +'em in. They set her down between the two women that was in there and +set her brother between two men, and when they got close to the house, +they threw cloaks over their heads and told the driver to drive as fast +as he could, and he sure drove. They taken 'em to Washin'ton, to the +White House, and made her a present to Mary Wilcox (Miss Donaldson) and +her brother to somebody else. Then this woman married John C. Wilcox and +they come to Texas. + +"She saw a cousin of hers when they got to Washin'ton, and she knew, +after that, he had somethin' to do with her and her brother bein' +stolen. One day she found a piece of yellow money and took it to her +cousin and he told her it wasn't no good and gave her a dime to go get +her some candy. After that, she saw gold money and knew what it was. + +"She said she had a good time, though, when she was growing up. They +were pretty good to her, but after they came to San Antonio, Mrs. Wilcox +began bein' mean. She kep' my mother hired out all the time and gave me +to her daughter and my sister to her son. My mother was kep' hired out +all the time, cooking; and after freedom, she just took to washin' and +ironin'. My grandfather bought his time and my grandmother's time out. +They didn't stay with her. + +"I've heard my mother talk about coffee. They roasted beans and made +coffee. She says, out on the plantation, they would take bran and put it +in a tub and have 'em stir it up with water in it and let all the white +go to the bottom and dip it off and strain it and make starch. I have +made starch out of flour over and often, myself. I had four or five +little girls; and I had to keep 'em like pins. In them days they wore +little calico dresses, wide and full and standin' out, and a bonnet to +match every dress. + +"I used to hear my grandmother tell about the good times they used to +have. They would go from one plantation to another and have quiltin's +and corn huskin's. And they would dance. They didn't have dances then +like they do now. The white people would give them things to eat. They +would have to hoof it five or six miles and didn't mind it. + +"They had what they called _patros_, and if you didn't have a pass they +would whip you and put you in jail. Old Man Burns was hired at the +courthouse, and if the marsters had slaves that they didn't want to +whip, they would send them to the courthouse to be whipped. Some of the +marsters was good and some wasn't. There was a woman, oh, she was the +meanest thing! I don't know if she had a husband--I never did hear +anything about him. When she would get mad at one of her slave women, +she would make the men tie her down, and she had what they called +cat-o'-nine-tails, and after she got the blood to come, she would dip it +in salt and pepper and whip her again. Oh, she was mean! My mother's +marster was good; he wouldn't whip any of his slaves. But his wife +wasn't good. If she got mad at the women, when he would come home she +would say: 'John, I want you to whip Liza.' Or Martha. And he would say, +'Them are your slaves. You whip them.' He was good and she was mean. + +"When my aunt would go to clean house, she (Mrs. Wilcox) would turn all +the pictures in the house but one, the meanest looking one--you know how +it always looks like a picture is watching you everywhere you go--and +she would tell her if she touched a thing or left a bit of dirt or if +she didn't do it good, this picture would tell. And she believed it. + +"My grandmother told a tale one time. You know in slave time they had an +old woman to cook for the chillen. One day they were going to have +company. This woman that was the boss of the place where the chillen was +kept told the old cullud woman to take a piece of bacon and grease the +mouths of all the chillen. Then she told a boy to bring them up to these +people, and the woman said: 'Oh, you must feed these chillen good, just +look at their mouths!' And the woman said, 'Oh, that's the way they +eat.' They didn't get meat often. That was just to make them believe +they had lots to eat. + +"No. They were cut off from education. The way my stepfather got his +learning was a cullud blacksmith would teach school at night, and us +chillen taught our mother. She didn't know how to spell or read or +nothin'. She didn't know B from bull's foot. Some of them were allowed +to have church and some didn't. Mighty few read the Bible 'cause they +couldn't read. As my mother used to say, they were raised up as green +as cucumbers. That old blacksmith was the onlyist man that knew how to +read and write in slavery time that I knew of. My grandmother or none of +them knew how to read; they could count, but that was all. That's what +makes me mad. I tell my grandchillen they ought to learn all they can +'cause the old people never had a chance. My husband never did have any +schooling, but he sure could figger. Now, if you want me to get tangled +up, just give me a pencil and paper and I don't know nothing." She +tapped her skull. "I figger in my head! The chillen, today, ought to +appreciate an education. + +"Oh, yes, they were good to the slaves when they were sick. They would +have the doctor come out and wait on them. Most plantations had what +they called an old granny cullud woman that treated the chillen with +herbs and such things. + +"Games? I don't know. We used to play rap jacket. We would get switches +and whip one another. You know, after you was hit several times it +didn't hurt much. I've played a many time. In slave time the men used to +go huntin' at night, and hunt 'possums and 'coons. They would have a dog +or two along. They used to go six or seven miles afoot to corn huskin's +and quiltin's. And those off the other plantations would come over and +join in the work. And they would nearly always have a good dinner. +Sometimes some of the owners would give 'em a hog or somethin' nice to +eat, but some of 'em didn't. + +"No'm, I don't know if they run off to the North, but some of them +runned off and stayed in the swamps, and they was mean. They called them +runaways. If they saw you, they would tell you to bring them something +to eat. And if you didn't do it, if they ever got you they sure would +fix you. + +"I don't know when my mother was set free. My husband's marster's name +was King. He was from Savannah, Georgia, but at the time was living +close to Boerne. My husband's father was killed in the war. When my +husband was about ten years old, his marster hadn't told them they was +free. You know some of them didn't tell the slaves they was free until +they had to. After freedom was declared, lots of people didn't tell the +slaves they were free. One morning, my husband said, he happended to +look out and he saw a big bunch of men coming down the road, and he +thought he never saw such pretty men in his life on them horses. They +had so many brass buttons on their clothes it looked like gold. So he +run and told his mama, and she looked and saw it was soldiers, and some +of 'em told the boss, and he looked and saw them soldiers comin' in the +big gate and he called 'em in quick, and told them they were free. So +when the soldiers come, they asked him if he had told his slaves they +were free, and he said yes. They asked the Negroes if they lived there, +and they said yes. One said, 'He just told us we was free.' The soldiers +asked him why he had just told them, and he said they wasn't all there +and he was waiting for them all to be there. + +"My husband said he thought them was the prettiest bunch of men he ever +saw, and the prettiest horses. Of course, he hadn't never saw any +soldiers before. I know it looked pretty to me when I used to see the +soldiers at the barracks and hear the band playin' and see them drillin' +and ever'thing. You see, we lived on a little cross-street right back of +St. Mary's Church in San Antonio, I don't know how that place is now. +Where the post office is now, there used to be a blacksmith shop and my +father worked there. I went back to San Antonio about fifteen years ago +and jes' took it afoot and looked at the changes. + +"I was fifteen years old the first time I married. It was almost a +run-a-way marriage. I was married in San Antonio. My first husband's +name was Henry Hall. My first wedding dress was as wide as a wagon +sheet. It was white lawn, full of tucks, and had a big ruffle at the +bottom. I had a wreath and a veil, too. The veil had lace all around it. +We danced and had a supper. We danced all the dances they danced then; +the waltz, square, quadrille, polka, and the gallopade--and that's what +it was, all right; you shore galloped. You'd start from one end of the +hall and run clear to the other end. In those days, the women with all +them long trains--the man would hold it over his arm. No, Lord! +Honeymoons wasn't thought of then. No'm, I never worked out a day in my +life." Jokingly, "I guess they thought I was too good looking. I was +about twenty years old when I married the second time. I was married in +Leon Springs the second time. + +"Before we come out to this country from Leon Springs, they was wild +grapes, dewberries, plums and agaritas, black haws, red haws. M-m-m! +Them dewberries, I dearly love 'em! I never did see wild cherries out +here. I didn't like the cherries much, but they make fine wine. We used +to gather mustang grapes and make a barrel of wine. + +"After I married the second time, we lived on the Adams ranch on the +Frio and stayed on that ranch fifteen years. We raised all our chillen +right on that ranch. I am taken for a Mexkin very often. I jes' talk +Mexkin back to 'em. I learned to talk it on the ranch. As long as I have +lived at this place, I have never had a cross word about the chillen. +All my neighbors here is Mexkins. They used to laugh at me when I tried +to talk to the hands on the ranch, but I learned to talk like 'em. + +"We used to have big round-ups out on the Adams ranch. They had fences +then. The neighbors would all come over and get out and gather the +cattle and bring 'em in. Up at Leon Springs at that time they didn't +have any fences, and they would have big round-ups there. But after we +come out here, it was different. He would notify his neighbors they were +goin' to gather cattle on a certain day. The chuck wagon was right there +at the ranch, that is, _I_ was the chuck wagon. But if they were goin' to +take the cattle off, they would have a chuck wagon. They would round up +a pasture at a time and come in to the ranch for their meals. Now on the +Wallace ranch, they would always take a chuck wagon. When they were +gettin' ready to start brandin' at the ranch, my husband always kep' his +brandin' irons all in the house, hangin' up right where he could get his +hands on 'em. Whenever they would go off to other ranches to gather +cattle, you would see ever' man with his beddin' tied up behind him on +his horse. He'd have jes' a small roll. They would always have a slicker +if nothin' else. That slicker answered for ever'thing sometimes. My +husband slep' many a night with his saddle under his head. + +"He used to carry mail from San Antonio to Dog Town, horseback. That was +the town they used to call Lodi (Lodo), but I don't know how to spell +it, and don't know what it means. It was a pretty tough town. The jail +house was made out of 'dobe and pickets. They had a big picket fence all +around it. They had a ferry that went right across the San Antonio River +from Floresville to Dog Town. I know he told me he come to a place and +they had a big sign that said, 'Nigga, don't let the sun go down on you +here.' They was awful bad down in there. He would leave Dog Town in the +evenin' and he would get to a certain place up toward San Antonio to +camp, and once he stopped before he got to the place he always camped +at. He said he didn't know what made 'im stop there that time, but he +stopped and took the saddle off his horse and let 'im graze while he lay +down. After a while, he saw two cigarette fires in the dark right up the +road a little piece, and he heard a Mexkin say, 'I don't see why he's so +late tonight. He always gets here before night and camps right there.' +He knew they was waylayin' 'im, so he picked his saddle up right easy +and carried it fu'ther back down the road in the brush and then come got +his horse and took him out there and saddled 'im up and went away 'round +them Mexkins. He went on in to San Antonio and didn't go back any more. +A white man took the mail to carry then and the first trip he made, he +never come back. He went down with the mail and they found the mail +scattered somewhere on the road, but they never found the man, or the +horse, either. + +"On the Adams ranch, in the early days, we used to have to pack water up +the bank. You might not believe it, but one of these sixty-pound lard +cans full of water, I've a-carried it on my head many a time. We had +steps cut into the bank, and it was a good ways down to the water, and +I'd pack that can up to the first level and go back and get a couple a +buckets of water, and carry a bucket in each hand and the can on my head +up the next little slantin' hill before I got to level ground. I carried +water that way till my chillen got big enough to carry water, then they +took it up. When I was carryin' water in them big cans my head would +sound like new leather--you know how it squeaks, and that was the way it +sounded in my head. But, it never did hurt me. You see, the Mexkins +carry loads on their heads, but they fix a rag around their heads some +way to help balance it. But I never did. I jes' set it up on my head and +carried it that way. Oh, we used to carry water! My goodness! My mother +said it was the Indian in me--the way I could carry water. + +"When we were first married and moved to the Adams ranch, we used to +come here to Uvalde to dances. They had square dances then. They hadn't +commenced all these frolicky dances they have now. They would have a +supper, but they had it to sell. Every fellow would have to treat his +girl he danced with. + +"I can remember when my grandfather lived in a house with a dirt floor, +and they had a fireplace. And I can remember just as well how he used to +bake hoecakes for us kids. He would rake back the coals and ashes real +smooth and put a wet paper down on that and then lay his hoecake down on +the paper and put another paper on top of that and the ashes on top. I +used to think that was the best bread I ever ate. I tried it a few +times, but I made such a mess I didn't try it any more. One thing I have +seen 'em make, especially on the ranch. You take and clean a stick and +you put on a piece of meat and piece of fat till you take and use up the +heart and liver and sweetbread and other meat and put it on the stick +and wrap it around with leaf fat and then put the milk gut, or marrow +gut, around the whole thing. They call that _macho_ (mule), and I tell +you, it's good. They make it out of a goat and sheep, mostly. + +"Another thing, we used to have big round-ups, and I have cooked great +pans of steak and mountain orshters. Generally, at the brandin' and +markin', I cooked up many a big pan of mountain orshters. I wish I had a +nickel for ever' one I've cooked, and ate too! People from up North have +come down there, and, when they were brandin' and cuttin' calves there, +they sure did eat and enjoy that dinner. + +"The men used to go up to the lake, fishin', and catch big trout, or +bass, they call 'em now; and we'd take big buckets of butter--we didn't +take a saucer of butter or a pound; we taken butter up there in buckets, +for we sure had plenty of it--and we'd take lard too, and cook our fish +up there, and had corn bread or hoe cakes and plenty of butter for +ever'thing, and it sure was good. I tell you--like my husband used to +say--we was livin' ten days in the week, then. + +"When we killed hogs, the meat from last winter was hung outside and +then new meat, salted down and then smoked, put in there, and we would +cook the old bacon for the dogs. We always kep' some good dogs there, +and anybody'll tell you they was always fat. We had lots of wild turkeys +and I raised turkeys, too, till I got sick of cookin' turkeys. Don't +talk about deer! You know, it wasn't then like it is now. You could go +kill venison any time you wanted to. But I don't blame 'em for passin' +that law, for people used to go kill 'em and jes' take out the hams and +tenderloin and leave the other layin' there. I have saved many a sack of +dried meat to keep it from spoilin'. + +"We would raise watermelons, too. We had a big field three mile from the +house and a ninety-acre field right in the house. We used to go get +loads of melons for the hogs and they got to where they didn't eat +anything but the heart. + +"I used to leave my babies at the house with the older girl and go out +horseback with my husband. My oldest girl used to take the place of a +cowboy, and put her hair up in her hat. And ride! My goodness, she loved +to ride! They thought she was a boy. She wore pants and leggin's. And +maybe you think she couldn't ride! + +"After we left that ranch, we took up some state land. I couldn't tell +you how big that place was. We had 640 in one place and 640 in another +place; it was a good big place. After my husband got sick, we had to let +it go back. We couldn't pay it out. We only lived on it about four +years. + +"My husband has been dead about nineteen years. I had a pen full and a +half of chillen. I have four livin' chillen, two girls and two boys. I +have a girl, Carrie, in California, workin' in the fruit all the time; +one boy, George, in Arizona, workin' in the mines; and a girl in +Arizona, Lavinia, washes and irons and cooks and ever'thing else she can +get at. And I have one boy here. I have ten grandchillen and I've got +five great grandchillen. + +"I belong to the Methodist Church. I joined about twenty-five years ago. +My husband joined with me. But here, of late years, when I go to church, +it makes me mad to see how the people do the preacher up there trying to +do all the good he can do and them settin' back there laughin' and +talkin'. I was baptized. There was about five or six of us baptized in +the Leona down here. + +"People tell that I've got plenty and don't need help. Even the Mexkins +here and ever'body say I've got money. Jes' because we had that farm +down there they think I come out with money. But what in the world would +I want with money if I didn't use it? I can't take it with me when I die +and I could be gettin' the use of it now while I need it. I could have +what I want to eat, anyway. I'm gettin' a little pension, but it ain't +near enough to keep us. I've got these two grandchillen here, and things +is so high, too, so I don't have enough of anything without skimpin' all +the time. + + + + +420312 + + + ELVIRA BOLES, 94, has outlived nine of her ten children. She lives + at 3109 Manzana St., El Paso, Texas, with her daughter, Minnie. She + was born a slave of the Levi Ray family near Lexington, + Mississippi, and was sold as a child to Elihn Boles, a neighboring + plantation owner. During the last year of the Civil War she was + brought to Texas, with other refugee slaves. + + +"I jus' 'member my first marster and missus, 'cause she don' want me +there. I'se a child of the marster. Dey didn' tell me how old I was when +dey sold me to Boles. My missus sold me to Boles. Dey tuk us to where +dere was a heap of white folks down by the court house and we'd be there +in lots and den de whites 'ud bid for us. I don' know how old I was, but +I washed dishes and den dey put me to work in de fields. We don' git a +nickel in slavery. + +"Marster Boles didn' have many slaves on de farm, but lots in brickyard. +I toted brick back and put 'em down where dey had to be. Six bricks each +load all day. That's de reason I ain't no 'count, I'se worked to death. +I fired de furnace for three years. Stan'in' front wid hot fire on my +face. Hard work, but God was wid me. We'd work 'till dark, quit awhile +after sundown. Marster was good to slaves, didn' believe in jus' lashin' +'em. He'd not be brutal but he'd kill 'em dead right on the spot. +Overseers 'ud git after 'em and whop 'em down. + +"I'se seventeen, maybe, when I married to slave of Boles. Married on +Saturday night. Dey give me a dress and dey had things to eat, let me +have something like what you call a party. We just had common clothes +on. And then I had to work every day. I'd leave my baby cryin' in de +yard and he'd be cryin', but I couldn' stay. Done everything but split +rails. I've cut timber and ploughed. Done everything a man could do. I +couldn' notice de time, but I'd be glad to git back to my baby. + +"Log cabins had dirt floor, sometimes plankin' down. I worked late and +made pretty quilts. Sometimes dey'd let us have a party. Saturday +nights, de white people give us meat and stuff. Give us syrup and we'd +make candy, out in de yard. We'd ask our frien's and dance all night. +Den go to work next day. We'd clean off de yard and dance out dere. +Christmas come, dey give us a big eggnog and give us cake. Our white +folks did. White folks chillen had bought candy. We didn' git any, but +dey let us play wid de white chillen. We'd play smut. Whoever beat wid +de cards, he'd git to smut you. Take de smut from fireplace and rub on +your face. + +"Doctor take care of us iffen we sick, so's git us well to git us to +work. + +"Iffen dey had a pretty girl dey would take 'em, and I'se one of 'em, +and my oldest child, he boy by Boles, almost white. + +"We had to steal away at night to have church on de ditch bank, and +crawl home on de belly. Once overseers heered us prayin', give us one +day each 100 lashes. + +"Den when de Yankees come through, dey 'ud be good to de slaves, to keep +'em from tellin' on 'em. Freedom was give Jan. 1, 1865, but de slaves +didn' know it 'till June 19. We'se refugees. Boles, our marster, sent us +out and we come from Holmes County to Cherokee County in a wagon. We was +a dodgin' in and out, runnin' from de Yankees. Marster said dey was +runnin' us from de Yankees to keep us, but we was free and didn' know +it. I lost my baby, its buried somewhere on dat road. Died at Red River +and we left it. De white folks go out and buy food 'long de road and +hide us. Dey say we'd never be free iffen dey could git to Texas wid us, +but de people in Texas tol' us we's free. Den marster turn us loose in +de world, without a penny. Oh, dey was awful times. We jus' worked from +place to place after freedom. + +"When we started from Mississippi, dey tol' us de Yankees 'ud kill us +iffen dey foun' us, and dey say, 'You ain't got no time to take nothin' +to whar you goin'. Take your little bundle and leave all you has in your +house.' So when we got to Texas I jus' had one dress, what I had on. +Dat's de way all de cullud people was after freedom, never had nothin' +but what had on de back. Some of dem had right smart in dere cabins, but +they was skeered and dey lef' everything. Bed clothes and all you had +was lef'. We didn' know any better den." + + + + +420102 + + +[Illustration: Betty Bormer (Bonner)] + + + BETTY BORMER, 80, was born a slave to Col. M.T. Johnson, who farmed + at Johnson Station in Tarrant County. He owned Betty's parents, + five sisters and four brothers, in addition to about 75 other + slaves. After the family was freed, they moved with the other + slaves to a piece of land Col. Johnson allowed them the use of + until his death. Betty lives in a negro settlement at Stop Six, a + suburb of Fort Worth. + + +"I'se bo'n April 4th, in 1857, at Johnson Station. It was named after my +marster. He had a big farm, I'se don' know how many acres. He had seven +chillen; three boys, Ben, Tom and Mart, and four girls, Elizabeth, +Sally, Roddy and Veanna. + +"Marster Johnson was good to us cullud folks and he feeds us good. He +kep' lots of hawgs, dat makes de meat. In de smokehouse am hung up meat +enough for to feed de army, it looks like. We'uns have all de clothes we +need and dey was made on de place. My mammy am de sewing woman and my +pappy am de shoemaker. My work, for to nuss de small chillen of de +marster. + +"On Sat'day we's let off work and lots de time some of us come to Fort +Worth wid de marster and he gives us a nickel or a dime for to buy +candy. + +"Dey whips de niggers sometimes, but 'twarn't hard. You know, de nigger +gits de devilment in de head, like folks do, sometimes, and de marster +have to larn 'em better. He done dat hisself and he have no overseer. No +nigger tried run away, 'cause each family have a cabin wid bunks for to +sleep on and we'uns all live in de quarters. Sich nigger as wants to +larn read and write, de marster's girls and boys larns 'em. De girls +larned my auntie how to play de piano. + +"Dere am lots of music on dat place; fiddle, banjo and de piano. +Singin', we had lots of dat, songs like Ole Black Joe and 'ligious songs +and sich. Often de marster have we'uns come in his house and clears de +dinin' room for de dance. Dat am big time, on special occasion. Dey not +calls it 'dance' dem days, dey calls it de 'ball.' + +"Sho', we'uns goes to church and de preacher's name, it was Jack Ditto. + +"Durin' de war, I notices de vittles am 'bout de same. De soldiers come +dere and dey driv' off over de hill some of de cattle for to kill for to +eat. Once dey took some hosses and I hears marster say dem was de +Quantrell mens. Dey comes several times and de marster don' like it, but +he cain't help it. + +"When freedom come marster tells all us to come to front of de house. He +am standin' on de porch. Him 'splains 'bout freedom and says, 'You is +now free and can go whar you pleases.' Den he tells us he have larned us +not to steal and to be good and we'uns should 'member dat and if we'uns +gets in trouble to come to him and he will help us. He sho' do dat, too, +'cause de niggers goes to him lots of times and he always helps. + +"Marster says dat he needs help on de place and sich dat stays, he'd pay +'em for de work. Lots of dem stayed, but some left. To dem dat leaves, +marster gives a mule, or cow and sich for de start. To my folks, marster +gives some land. He doesn't give us de deed, but de right to stay till +he dies. + +"Sho', I seen de Klux after de war but I has no 'sperience wid 'em. My +uncle, he gits whipped by 'em, what for I don' know 'zactly, but I think +it was 'bout a hoss. Marster sho' rave 'bout dat, 'cause my uncle +weren't to blame. + +"When de Klux come de no 'count nigger sho make de scatterment. Some +climb up de chimney or jump out de winder and hide in de dugout and +sich. + +"De marster dies 'bout seven years after freedom and everybody sorry +den. I never seen such a fun'ral and lots of big men from Austin comes. +He was de blessed man! + +"I married de second year after de T.P. railroad come to Fort Worth, to +Sam Jones and he work on de Burk Burnett stock ranch. I'se divorseted +from him after five years and den after 12 more years I marries Rubbin +Felps. My las' husban's named Joe Borner, but I'se never married to the +father of my only chile. His name am George Pace. + +"I allus gits long fair, 'cause after freedom I keeps on workin' doin' +de nussin'. Now I'se gittin' 'leven dollars from de state for pension, +and gits it every month so now I'se sho' of somethin' to eat and dat +makes me happy. + + + + +420289 + + + HARRISON BOYD, 87, was born in Rusk County, Texas, a slave of Wash + Trammel. Boyd remained with his master for four years after + emancipation, then moved to Harrison County, where he now lives. + His memory is poor, but he managed to recall a few incidents. + + +"I was fifteen years when they says we're free. That's the age my Old +Missy done give me when the war stopped. She had all us niggers' ages in +a book, and told me I was born near Henderson. My Old Marse was Wash +Trammel and he brunged me and my mama and papa from Alabama. Mama was +named Juliet and papa, Amos. Marse Trammel owned my grandpa and grandma, +too, and they was named Jeanette and Josh. + +"The plantation was two made into one, and plenty big, and more'n a +hundred slaves to work it. Marse lived in a hewed log house, +weather-boarded out and in, and the quarters was good, log houses with +bed railin's hewed out of logs. We raised everything we et, 'cept sugar, +and Marse bought that in big hogsheads. We got our week's rations every +Sunday, and when we went to eat, everybody's part was put out to them on +a tin plate. + +"Marse Trammel give a big cornshucking every fall. He had two bottom +fields in corn. First we'd gather peas and cushaws and pumpkins out the +corn field, then get the corn and pile it front the cribs. They was two +big cribs for the corn we kep' to use and five big cribs for sale corn. +My uncle stayed round the sale corn cribs all spring, till ginnin' time, +'cause folks come for miles after corn. Marse had five wheat cribs and +one rye crib. We went ten mile to Tatum to git our meal and flour +ground. + +"The patterrollers darsn't come 'bout our place or bother us niggers. +Marse Wash allus say, 'I'll patterroller my own place.' Marse was good +to us and only once a overseer beat a woman up a trifle, and Marse +Trammel fired him that same day. + +"The sojers 'fiscated lots of corn from Marse and some more owners in +Rusk County piled corn up in a big heap and made me go mind it till the +rest the sojers got there. I was settin' top that corn pile, me and my +big bulldog, and the General rode up. My dog growled and I made him +hush. The General man say to me, 'Boy, you is 'scused now, go on home.' +I got to a fence and looked back, and that General was hewin' him a hoss +trough out a log. The sojers come in droves and set up they camp. I sot +on a stump and watched them pass. They stayed three, four days till the +corn was all fed up. + +"While they's camped there they'd cotch chickens. They had a fishin' +pole and line and hook. They'd put a grain of corn on the hook and ride +on they hoss and pitch the hook out 'mong the chickens. When a chicken +swallowed the corn they'd jerk up the line with that chicken and ride +off. + +"Marse had six hundred bales cotton in the Shreveport warehouse when war +was over. He got word them Yankees done take it on a boat. He got his +brother to take him to Shreveport and say, 'I'll follow that cotton to +Hell and back.' He followed his cotton to Alabama and got it back, but +he died and was buried there in Alabama 'fore Old Missy knowed it. + +"I stayed with her four years after surrender and then went to farmin' +with my folks, for $10.00 a month. After a year or two I went to +railroadin', helping cut the right-of-way for the T.& P. Railroad, from +Marshall to Longview. They paid us $1.50 the day and three drinks of +whiskey a day. + +"I marries four times but had only one child, but I never done nothin' +'citin'. I lives by myself now, and gits $11.00 pension to eat on. + + + + +420074 + + +[Illustration: Issabella Boyd] + + + ISSABELLA BOYD was born a slave of Gus Wood, in Richmond, Va., who + moved to Texas by boat before the Civil War. Isabella still lives + in Beaumont. + + +"Lemme see, I come from Richmond, Virginy, to Texas. Massa Gus Wood was +my owner and I kin recollect my white folks. I's born in dat country and +dey brought me over to Richmond and my papa and mama, too. I was jus' +'bout big 'nough to begin to 'member. + +"I come from Richmond yere on de boat, sometime de steamboat, sometime +de big boat. When we left New Orleans dat evenin' we struck a big storm. +Us git on dat boat in Richmond and went floatin' down to de big boat dat +mornin'. Looks like it jus' fun for us, but every time we look back and +think 'bout home it make us sad. + +"I had a dear, good mistus and my boss man, he furnish a house for he +servants, a purty good house. And dey had a place for de Sunday School. +Dem was good times. De mistus cook dinner and send it down for de old +folks and chillen to have plenty. + +"My mistus kep' me right in de house, right by her, sewing. I could sew +so fast I git my task over 'fore de others git started good. + +"Lots of times when de gals wants to go to de dance I he'p make de +dresses. I 'member de pretties' one like yesterday. It have tucks from +de waist to de hem and had diamonds cut all in de skirt. + +"Our boss man was 'ticular 'bout us being tended to and we was well took +care of. He brung us to Beaumont when it was de plumb mud hole, and he +settle down and try to build up and make it a go. + +"Massa Wood he allus takes de paper and one night they set up da long +time and do dey readin'. Next mornin' de old cook woman, she say, 'Well, +dey have de big war, and lots of dem wounded.' Befo' long us has to take +care of some dem wounded soldiers, and dey has de camp place near us. +Dey all camp 'round dere and I don't know which was de Yankees and de +'federates. + +"When we all gits free, dey's de long time lettin' us know. Dey wants to +git through with de corn and de cotton befo' dey let's de hands loose. +Dey was people from other plantations say. 'Niggers, you's free and yere +you workin'.' Us say, 'No, de gov'ment tell us when we's free.' We +workin' one day when somebody from Massa Grissom place come by and tell +us we's free, and us stop workin'. Dey tell us to go on workin' and de +boss man he come up and he say he gwine knock us off de fence if we +don't go to work. Mistus come out and say, 'Ain't you gwine make dem +niggers go to work?' He send her back in de house and he call for de +carriage and say he goin' to town for to see what de gov'ment goin' do. +Nex' day he come back and say, 'Well, you's jus' as free as I is.' + +"He say to me I could stay and cook for dem, and he give me five dollar +a month and a house to stay in and all I kin eat. I stays de month to do +dere work. + +"After dat I wishes sometimes dat old times is back 'gain. I likes to be +free, but I wasn't used to it and it was hard to know how to do. I +'members de dances we has in de old times, when we makes de music with +banjo and other things. Some de good massas 'lowed de niggers dance in +de back yard and if we goes over dere without de pass de patterroles +gits us maybe. One time my papa he runnin' from dem patterroles and he +run slap into de young massa and he say, 'Oh, you ain't no nigger, I kin +tell by de smell.' + +"Dat mind me of de ghost story dey used to tell 'bout de ghosties what +live in de big bridge down in de hollow. De niggers day say dat ghostie +make too much noise, with all he hollerin' and he rattlin' dem chain. So +dat night one us niggers what dey call Charlie, he say he ain't 'fraid +and he gwineter git him a ghostie, sho' 'nough. Us didn't believe him +but purty soon us hears right smart wrastlin' with de chains and +hollerin' down by de bridge and after 'while he come and say he git de +best of dat ghostie, 'cause he ain't got strength like de man. + +"Me and my old man us have twelve chillens altogedder. My husban' he +come from South Car'lina whar dey eats cottonseed. I used to joke him +'bout it. I allus say Virginny de best, 'cause I come from dere. + + + + +420039 + + +[Illustration: James Boyd] + + + JAMES BOYD was born in Phantom Valley, Indian Territory, in an + Indian hut. A man named Sanford Wooldrige stole him and brought him + to Texas, somewhere near Waco. James does not know his age, but + thinks he is a hundred years or more old. He now lives in Itasca, + Texas. + + +"I's born in dat Phantom Valley, in de Indian Territory, what am now +call Oklahoma. Us live in a Indian hut. My pappy Blue Bull Bird and +mammy Nancy Will. She come to de Indian Territory with Santa Anna, from +Mississippi, and pappy raise in de Territory. I don' 'member much 'bout +my folks, 'cause I stole from dem when I a real li'l feller. I's +a-fishin' in de Cherokee River and a man name Sanford Wooldrige come by. +You see, de white folks and de Indians have de fight 'bout dat day. I's +on de river and I heared yellin' and shootin' and folkses runnin' and I +slips into some bresh right near. Den come de white man and he say, +'Everybody kilt, nigger, and dem Indians gwine kill you iffen day cotch +you. Come with me and I ain't 'low dem hurt you.' So I goes with him. + +"He brung me to Texas, but I don't know jus' where, 'cause I didn't know +nothin' 'bout dat place. Massa Sanford good to us, but look out for he +missus, she sho' tough on niggers. Dere 'bout 1,600 acres in de +plantation and de big house am nice. When de niggers wouldn't work dey +whup 'em. Us work all week and sometime Sunday, iffen de crops in a +rush. Massa not much on presents or money but us have warm clothes and +plenty to eat and de dry place to live, and dat more'n lots of niggers +has now. + +"Sometime us have de corn huskin' and dere a dollar for de one what +shuck de mos' corn. Us have de big dance 'bout twict a year, on +Christmas and sometime in de summer. When de white folks have dere big +balls us niggers cook and watch dem dance. Us have fun den. + +"I likes to think of dem times when us fish all de hot day or hunts or +jus' lazed 'round when de crops am laid by. I likes to shet de eyes and +be back in old times and hear 'em sing, "Swing, low, Sweet Chariot." I +can't sing, now you knows can't no old man sing what ain't got no teef +or hair. I used to like to swing dat 'Ginia Reel and I's spry and young +den. + +"Dere's lots I can't 'member, 'cause my mem'ry done gone weak like de +res' of me, but I 'member when us free us throw de hats in de air and +holler. Old massa say, 'How you gwine eat and git clothes and sech?' Den +us sho' scairt and stays with us white folks long as us can. But 'bout a +year after dat I gits de job punchin' cattle on a ranch in South Texas. +I druv cattle into Kansas, over what de white folks calls de Chissum +Trail. I worked lots of cattle and is what dey call a top hand. I's +workin' for Massa Boyd den, and he gits me to drive some cattle to +Mexico. He say he ain't well no more and for me to sell de cattle and +send him de money and git de job down dere. I goes on down to Mexico and +do what he say. I marries a gal name Martina in 1869, down in Matamoras. +Us have four chillen and she die. Dat break me up and I drifts back to +Huntsville. + +"I done change my name from Scott Bird, what it am up in de Territory, +and make it James Boyd, 'cause I done work for Massa Boyd. I's gwine be +'bout 108 year old in next January, iffen de Lawd spare me dat long. + +"After I been in Huntsville awhile, I marries Emma Smith but us only +stay together 'bout a year and a half. Wasn't no chillen. Den I drifts +to Fort Bend County and dere I marries Mary McDowd and us have two +chillen. She die with de yellow fever and off I goes for Burleson +County. Dere I marries Sally McDave and she quits me after us have three +chillen. Down in old Washington County I marries Frances Williams and us +lived together till 1900. Dere am no chillen dere. Den I goes to Austin +after she die and marries Eliza Bunton in 1903. Us have eight chillen +and she die in 1911. Den I comes to Hill County and marries Mittie Cahee +in 1916. She quit me. In 1924 I marries Hegar Price clost to Milford. Us +live together now, in Itasca. Us didn't have no chillen, but dat don't +matter, 'cause I's de daddy of 'bout twenty already. + +"I mos' allus wore de black suit when I marries. Jes' seemed more +dressed up like. Some my wives wear white and some colors, didn't make +much diff'rence, so dey a likely lookin' gal for me. Sometime it am a +preacher and sometime it am Jestice of Peace, but de fust time it am +Catholic and priest and all. + +"Talkin' 'bout all dis marryin', I mos' forgit to show you my scar. I +fit in dat freedom war 'long side Massa Sanford and got shot. Dat bullet +go through de breast and out de back and keep me six months in de bed. +De fust battle I's in am at Halifax, in North Car'lina. Us git de news +of freedom when us at Vicksburg, in Mississippi. Mos' us niggers 'fraid +say much. De new niggers 'spect de gov'ment give dem de span of mules +and dey be rich and not work. But dey done larn a lot dese past years. +Us am sho' slaves now to hard work, and lucky iffen us git work. Lots +dem niggers figgers dey'd git dere massa's land, but dey didn't. Dey +oughta of knowed dey wouldn't. Warn't no plantation ever divided I +knowed of, but some de massas give de oldest slaves a li'l piece land. + +"After de cattle days done gone, I farms in Hill County. I works twelve +year for Massa Claude Wakefield, right near Milford, too. De old man +ain't due to live nowhere long and I's gittin' 'bout ready to cross de +river. I's seed a heap of dis here earth and de people in it, but I +tells you it am sho' hard time now. Us is old and cripple' and iffen de +white folks don't holp us I don't know what us gwine do. + +"Some dese young niggers gone plumb wild with dere cigars and cars and +truckin' and jazzin' and sech. Some go to school and larn like white +folks and teach and be real helpful. But talk 'bout workin' in slave +time--'twarn't so hard as now. Den you fuss 'cause dere's work, now you +fuss 'cause dere ain't no work. But den us have somethin' to eat and +wear and a place to sleep, and now us don't know one day what gwine fill +us tomorrow, or nothin'. + +"I'd sho' like to shake Massa Boyd's hand again and hear him come +singin' down de lane. Us hear him sing or whistle long 'fore he git dere +and it mighty good to see him. De slaves allus say, 'I's gwine 'way +tomorrow,' and I guess I's gwine 'way pretty soon tomorrow. + + + + +420195 + + + JERRY BOYKINS, spry and jolly at the age of 92, lived with his aged + wife in their own cabin at 1015 Plum St., Abilene, Texas. He was + born a slave to John Thomas Boykin, Troupe Co., Georgia, 80 miles + from Lagrange, Ga. His master was a very wealthy plantation owner, + working 1,000 slaves. + + +"I been well taken care of durin' my life. When I was young I lived +right in de big house with my marster. I was houseboy. My mother's name +was Betsy Ann Boykin and she was cook for Old Missus. My grandpa was +blacksmith. I slept on a pallet in de kitchen and in winter time on cold +nights I 'members how cold I would get. I'd wake up and slip in by +marsters bed and den I'd say, 'Marster John, I's about to freeze.' He'd +say, 'You ought to freeze, you little black devil. What you standin' +dere for?' I'd say, 'Please, marster John, jes' let me crawl in by your +feet.' He'd say, 'Well, I will dis one time,' and dat's de way I'd do +every cold night. + +"I was full of mischief and I'd tu'n de mules out of de lot, jus' to see +de stableboy git a lickin'. One time I wanted a fiddle a white man named +Cocoanut Harper kep' tryin' to sell me for $7.50. I didn' never have any +money, 'cept a little the missie give me, so I kep' teasin' her to buy +de fiddle for me. She was allus on my side, so she tol' me to take some +co'n from de crib and trade in for de fiddle. In de night I slips out +and hitch up de mules and fetched de co'n to old Harper's house and +traded for dat fiddle. Den I hides out and play it, so's marster wouldn' +fin' out, but he did and he whip all de daylight outta me. When de +missie try to whip me, I jes' wrop up in her big skirts and she never +could hurt me much. + +"I allus ate my meals in de house at de white folks table, after dey +done et. Iffen I couldn' sit in de marster's chair, I'd swell up like a +toad. + +"De marster done all de whippin', 'cause dey had been two overseers +killed on de plantation for whippin' slaves till de blood run out dey +body. + +"Was I bovered with haints and spooks? I been meetin' up with 'em all my +life. When I was younger I was such an old scratch I'd meet 'em right in +de road, some without heads. I'd take to my heels and then I'd stop and +look 'round and they'd be gone. + +"I wore home-weaved shirts till I was grown, then I had some pants and +dey was homemade, too. The women gathered womack leaves to dye de goods +black. + +"I well rec'lects when my marster went to war. He called all us in de +kitchen and telled us he had to go over dere and whip those +sons-of-bitches and would be back 'fore breakfast. He didn' return for +two years. I says, 'Marster, we sho' would have waited breakfast on you +a long time.' He said, 'Yes; deys de hardes' sons-of-bitches to whip I +ever had dealins' with.' + +"When war was over, he called us together and tol' us we were free. He +said, 'Now, I'm goin' to give you a big day and after that you can stay +and work for pay or you can go.' So he rolled out two barrels of whiskey +and killed hogs and spread a big day. + +"I wants to tell you 'bout how we killed hogs in my day. We digged a +deep pit in de groun' and heated big rocks red hot and filled up de pit +with water and dropped dem hot rocks in and got de water hot; den we +stuck de hogs and rolled 'em in dat pit. + +"Soon after I's free a man come for me from Louisville to hire me as +foreman in his cotton mule barn. So I went there and I worked in +Kentucky for 18 year. Fifty-one years ago I married my ol' woman, Rachel +Taylor, at Corsicana, Texas, and I think she's jes' as fine as the day I +married her. We has six chillen and all works hard for a livin' and we +got one lil' grandbaby 10 years ol'. She lives here at our house and +we're educatin' her. + +"I knows I's goin' to live to be over 100 years ol', 'cause my marster +done tol' me so." + + + + +420073 + + +[Illustration: Monroe Brackins] + + + MONROE BRACKINS, born in Monroe Co., Mississippi, in 1853, was the + property of George Reedes. He was brought to Medina County, Texas, + when two years old. Monroe learned to snare and break mustangs and + became a cowpuncher. He lives in Hondo, Texas. He has an air of + pride and self-respect, and explained that he used little dialect + because he learned to talk from the "white folks" as he was growing + up. + + +"I was bo'n in Mississippi, Monroe County. I'm 84 years old. My master, +George Reedes, brought me, my father and mother and my two sisters to +Texas when I was two years old. My father was Nelson Brackins and my +mother was Rosanna. + +"My master settled here at a place called Malone, on the Hondo River. He +went into the stock business. Our house there was a little, old picket +house with a grass roof over it out of the sage grass. The bed was made +with a tick of shucks and the children slept on the floor. The boss had +just a little lumber house. Later on he taken us about 20 miles fu'ther +down on the Hondo, the Old Adams Ranch, and he had a rock house. + +"I was about six years old then. I had some shoes, to keep the thorns +outa my feet, and I had rawhide leggin's. We just had such clothes as we +could get, old patched-up clothes. They just had that jeans cloth, +homemade clothes. + +"I was with George Reedes 10 or 12 years. It was my first trainin' +learnin' the stock business and horse breakin.' He was tol'able good to +us, to be slaves as we was. His brother had a hired man that whipped me +once, with a quirt. I've heard my father and mother tell how they +whipped 'em. They'd tie 'em down on a log or up to a post and whip 'em +till the blisters rose, then take a paddle and open 'em up and pour salt +in 'em. Yes'm, they whipped the women. The most I remember about that, +my father and sister was in the barn shuckin' co'n and the master come +in there and whipped my sister with a cowhide whip. My father caught a +lick in the face and he told the master to keep his whip offen him. So +the master started on my father and he run away. When he finally come in +he was so wild his master had to call him to get orders for work, and +finally the boss shot at him, but they didn't whip him any more. Of +course, some of 'em whipped with more mercy. They had a whippin' post +and when they strapped 'em down on a log they called it a 'stroppin' +log.' + +"I remember they tasked the cotton pickers in Mississippi. They had to +bring in so many pounds in the evenin' and if they didn't they got a +whippin' for it. My sister there, she had to bring in 900 pounds a day. +Well, cotton was heavier there. Most any of 'em could pick 900 pounds. +It was heavier and fluffier. We left the cotton country in Mississippi, +but nobody knew anything about cotton out here that I knew of. + +"I've heard my parents say too, them men that had plantations and a +great lot of slaves, they would speculate with 'em and would have a +chain that run from the front ones to the back ones. Sometimes they +would have 15 or 20 miles to make to get them to the sale place, but +they couldn't make a break. Where they expected to make a sale, they +kept 'em in corrals and they had a block there to put 'em up on and bid +'em off. The average price was about $500, but some that had good +practice, like a blacksmith, brought a good price, as high as $1,500. + +"I heard my mother and father say they would go 15 or 20 miles to a +dance, walkin', and get back before daylight, before the 'padderollers' +got 'em. The slaves would go off when they had no permission and them +that would ketch 'em and whip 'em was the 'padderollers.' Sometimes they +would have an awful race. + +"If they happened to be a slave on the plantation that could jes' read a +little print, they would get rid of him right now. He would ruin the +niggers, they would get too smart. The' was no such thing as school here +for culluds in early days. The white folks we was raised up with had +pretty good education. That's why I don't talk like most cullud folks. I +was about grown and the' was an English family settled close, about half +a mile, I guess. They had a little boy, his name was Arthur Ederle, and +he come over and learned me how to spell 'cat' and 'dog' and 'hen' and +such like. I was right around about 20 years old. I couldn't sign my +name when I was 18 years old. + +"I can remember one time when I was young, I saw something I couldn't +'magine what it was, like a billygoat reared up on a tree. But I knew +the' wasn't a billygoat round there near, nor no other kinds of goats. +It was in the daytime and I was out in a horse pasture, I was jes' +walkin' along, huntin', when I saw that sight. I guess I got within 50 +steps of it, then I turned around and got away. I never did think much +about a ghost, but I think it could be possible. + +"I don't remember scarcely anything about the war because I was so +little and times was so different; the country wasn't settled up and +everything was wild, no people, hardly. Of course, my life was in the +woods, you might say, didn't hardly know when Sunday come. + +"The northern soldiers never did get down in here that I know of. I know +once, when they was enlisting men to go to battle a whole lot of 'em +didn't want to fight and would run away and dodge out, and they would +follow 'em and try to make 'em fight. They had a battle up here on the +Nueces once and killed some of 'em. I know my boss was in the bunch that +followed 'em and he got scared for fear this old case would be brought +up after the war. The company that followed these men was called Old +Duff Company. I think somewhere around 40 was in the bunch that they +followed, but I don't know how many was killed. They was a big bluff and +a big water hole and they said they was throwed in that big water hole. + +"We had possums and 'coons to eat sometimes. My father, he gen'rally +cooked the 'coons, he would dress 'em and stew 'em and then bake 'em. My +mother wouldn't eat them. There was plenty of rabbits, too. Sometimes +when they had potatoes they cooked 'em with 'em. I remember one time +they had just a little patch of blackhead sugar cane. After the freedom, +my mother had a kind of garden and she planted snap beans and +watermelons pretty much every year. + +"The master fed us tol'bly well. Everything was wild, beef was free, +just had to bring one in and kill it. Once in awhile, of a Sunday +mornin', we'd get biscuit flour bread to eat. It was a treat to us. They +measured the flour out and it had to pan out just like they measured. He +give us a little somethin' ever' Christmas and somethin' good to eat. I +heard my people say coffee was high, at times, and I know we didn't get +no flour, only Sunday mornin'. We lived on co'nbread, mostly, and beef +and game outta the woods. That was durin' the war and after the war, +too. + +"I was around about 6 or 7 years old when we was freed. We worked for +George Reedes awhile, then drifted on down to the Frio river and stayed +there about a year, then we come to Medina County and settled here close +to where I was raised. We didn't think it hard times at all right after +the war. The country was wild and unsettled, with ranches 15 or 20 miles +apart. You never did see anybody and we didn't know really what was +goin' on in the rest of the country. Sometimes something could happen in +5 miles of us and we didn't know it for a month. + +"I was on the Adams Ranch on the Hondo when my master come out and told +us we were as free as he was. He said we could stay on and work or could +go if we wanted to. He gave my mother and father 50 cents apiece and 25 +cents for the children. We stayed awhile and then went west to the Frio. + +"I used to be along with old man Big-foot Wallace in my early days. He +was a mighty fine man. I worked for the people that was gathering stock +together there. Big Foot raised nice horses, old reg'lar Texas horses, +and they was better than the reg'lar old Spanish bronco. I used to go to +his camp down on the San Miguel. He lived in one part and his chickens +in the rest of his house. His friends liked to hear him talk about his +travels. He used to run stock horses and had a figger 7 on the left +shoulder for his brand and the tip of each ear split was his earmark. + +"The last man I broke horses for was Wilson Bailey. I was there about 12 +years. He raised just cavi-yard--we called it a cavi-yard of horses, +just the same thing as a _remuda_. We called 'em that later, but we got +that from the Spanish. We would get up in a tree with our loop till the +horse come under and drop it down on him. When they were so spoilt, we +got 'em in a sort of cavi-yard and drove 'em under trees and caught 'em +in a snare. We had lots of wild horses, just this side of Pearsall. +'Bout the only way I'd get throwed was to get careless. We'd ketch 'im +up, hackamore 'im up, saddle 'im up and get on 'im and let 'im go. +Sometimes he'd be too wild to pitch, he'd break and run and you had to +let 'im run himself down. I used to rather ketch up a wild horse and +break 'im than to eat breakfast. + +"When I first started farmin' I taken up some state land, about 80 +acres, down on Black Creek, in Medina County. I stayed there ten or +twelve years. Cotton hadn't got in this country and I raised some corn, +sugar cane and watermelons. I commenced with horses, but 'long 'way down +the line I used oxen some, too. I used one of those old walking plows. + +"I sold that place and moved to a place on the Tywaukney Creek +(Tonkawa). I come up to church and met my wife then. Her name was Ida +Bradley and I was 38 years old. We lived down on the Tywaukney right +about 23 years and raised our children there. We jes' had a little home +weddin'. I wore a suit, dark suit. We got married about 8 o'clock in the +evenin' and we had barbecue, cake and ice cream. You see, in them times +I wasn't taught anything about years and dates, but I judge it was about +25 years after the war before I settled on the Tywaukney." + + + + +420310 + + + GUS BRADSHAW was born about 1845, at Keecheye, Alabama, a slave of + David Cavin. He recalls being brought to Texas in the 1850's, when + the Cavin family settled near old Port Caddo. Gus remained with his + master for ten years after emancipation. He now lives alone on a + fifty acre farm seven miles northeast of Marshall, which he bought + in 1877. Gus receives an $11.00 per month pension. + + +"I was born at Keecheye, Alabama, and belonged to old man David Cavin. +The only statement I can make 'bout my age is I knows I was 'bout twenty +years old when us slaves was freed. I never knowed my daddy, but my +mammy was Amelia Cavin. I's heard her say she's born in Alabama more +times than I got fingers and toes. Our old master brung us to Texas when +I's a good sized kid. I 'members like it am yesterday, how we camped +more'n a week in New Orleans. I seed 'em sell niggers off the block +there jus' like they was cattle. Then we came to old Port Caddo on Caddo +Lake and master settles a big farm close to where the boats run. Port +Caddo was a big shipping place then, and Dud and John Perry run the +first store there. The folks hauled cotton there from miles away. + +"Mammy's folks was named Maria and Joe Gloster and they come to Texas +with the Cavins. My grandma say to me, 'Gus, don't run you mouth too +much and allus have manners to whites and blacks.' Chillen was raise +right then, but now they come up any way. I seed young niggers turn the +dipper up and drink 'fore old folks. I wouldn't dare do that when I's +comin' up. + +"Maria say to me one day, 'Son, I's here when the stars fell.' She tell +me they fell like a sheet and spread over the ground. Ike Hood, the old +blacksmith on our place, he told me, too. I says, 'Ike, how old was you +when the stars fell?' He say, 'I's thirty-two.' + +"Massa David had big quarters for us niggers, with chimneys and +fireplaces. They use to go round and pick up old hawg or cow bones to +bile with greens and cabbage. They was plenty of wild game, and deer and +wolves howlin' right through this country, but you can't even find the +track of one now. + +"The first work I done was pickin' cotton. Every fellow was out at +daylight pickin' cotton or hoein' or plowin'. They was one overseer and +two nigger drivers. But at night you could hear us laughin' and talkin' +and singin' and prayin', and hear them fiddles and things playin'. It +look like darkies git 'long more better then than now. Some folks says +niggers oughtn't to be slaves, but I says they ought, 'cause they jus' +won't do right onless they is made to do it. + +"Massa David allus give us eggnog and plenty good whiskey at Christmas. +We had all day to eat and drink and sing and dance. We didn't git no +presents, but we had a good time. + +"I don't know much 'bout the war, only Massa Bob Perry come over one day +and say to Grandma Maria, 'They is surrender, Maria, you is free.' She +say to him, 'I don't care, I gwine stay with my white folks.' + +"The Klu Klux done lots of cuttin' up round there. Two of 'em come to +Dr. Taylor's house. He had two niggers what run off from the Klux and +they want to whip 'em, but Dr. Taylor wouldn't 'low 'em. I knowed old +Col. Alford, one of the Klux leaders, and he was a sight. He told me +once, 'Gus, they done send me to the pen for Kluxing.' I say, 'Massa +Alford, didn't they make a gentleman of you?' He say, 'Hell, no!' + +"I knowed old Col. Haggerdy, too. He marries a widow of a rich old +Indian chief, name McIntosh. He broke a treaty with his people and had +to hide out in a cave a long time, and his wife brung food to him. One +time when she went to the cave he was gone. She knowed then the Indians +done git him and kilt him for vi'latin' the treaty. So she marries old +Col. Haggerdy. + +"The only time I votes was against whiskey. I voted for it. Some white +folks done say they'd whip me if I voted for it, but Mr. Joe Strickland +done told me they jus' tryin' scare me, so I voted for it. I don't think +niggers ought to vote. If some niggers had things in hand 'stead of +white folks, I couldn't stay here. These eddicated niggers am causin' +the devilment. The young niggers ain't got no 'spect for old age. + +"I bought and paid for fifty acres land here in Harrison County and I +has lived on it sixty years. I lived with my wife fifty years 'fore she +died and done raise two chillen. These young niggers don't stay married +fifty days, sometimes. I don't mess with 'em, but if I needs help I goes +to the white folks. If you 'have youself, they allus help you if you +needs it. + + + + +420240 + + +[Illustration: Wes Brady] + + + WES BRADY, 88, was born a slave of John Jeems, who had a farm five + miles north of Marshall. Wes has farmed in Harrison County all his + life. He now lives with friends on the Long's Camp Road, and draws + a $11.00 monthly pension. + + +"I was born and raised in Harrison County, and I was eighty-eight years +old this July past and has wore myself out here in this county. I was +born on Massa John Jeem's place, on the old Jefferson Road, and my +father was Peter Calloway, and he was born in Alabama and his whole +fam'ly brought to Texas by nigger traders. My mother was Harriet Ellis +and I had two brothers named George and Andrew, and four sisters, Lula +and Judy and Mary and Sallie. My old Grandpa Phil told me how he helped +run the Indians off the land. + +"Grandpa Phil told me 'bout meetin' his massa. Massa Jeems had three or +four places and grandpa hadn't seed him and he went to one of the other +farms and meets a man goin' down the road. The man say, 'Who you belong +to?' Grandpa Phil say, 'Massa Jeems.' The man say, 'Is he a mean man?' +Grandpa say, 'I don't know him, but they say he's purty tight.' It was +Massa Jeems talkin' and he laughs and gives Grandpa Phil five dollars. + +"We niggers lived in log houses and slep' on hay mattress with lowell +covers, and et fat pork and cornbread and 'lasses and all kinds garden +stuff. If we et flour bread, our women folks had to slip the flour +siftin's from missy's kitchen and darsn't let the white folks know it. +We wore one riggin' lowell clothes a year and I never had shoes on till +after surrender come. I run all over the place till I was a big chap in +jes' a long shirt with a string tied round the bottom for a belt. I went +with my young massa that way when he hunted in the woods, and toted +squirrels for him. + +"Some white folks might want to put me back in slavery if I tells how we +was used in slavery time, but you asks me for the truth. The overseer +was 'straddle his big horse at three o'clock in the mornin', roustin' +the hands off to the field. He got them all lined up and then come back +to the house for breakfas'. The rows was a mile long and no matter how +much grass was in them, if you leaves one sprig on your row they beats +you nearly to death. Lots of times they weighed cotton by candlelight. +All the hands took dinner to the field in buckets and the overseer give +them fifteen minutes to git dinner. He'd start cuffin' some of them over +the head when it was time to stop eatin' and go back to work. He'd go to +the house and eat his dinner and then he'd come back and look in all the +buckets and if a piece of anything that was there when he left was et, +he'd say you was losin' time and had to be whipped. He'd drive four +stakes in the ground and tie a nigger down and beat him till he's raw. +Then he'd take a brick and grind it up in a powder and mix it with lard +and put it all over him and roll him in a sheet. It'd be two days or +more 'fore that nigger could work 'gain. I seed one nigger done that way +for stealin' a meat bone from the meathouse. That nigger got fifteen +hundred lashes. The li'l chaps would pick up egg shells and play with +them and if the overseer seed them he'd say you was stealin' eggs and +give you a beatin'. I seed long lines of slaves chained together driv by +a white man on a hoss, down the Jefferson road. + +"The first work I done was drappin' corn, and then cow-pen boy and sheep +herder. All us house chaps had to shell a half bushel corn every night +for to feed the sheep. Many times I has walked through the quarters when +I was a little chap, cryin' for my mother. We mos'ly only saw her on +Sunday. Us chillen was in bed when the folks went to the field and come +back. I 'members wakin' up at night lots of times and seein' her make a +little mush on the coals in the fireplace, but she allus made sho' that +overseer was asleep 'fore she done that. + +"One time the stock got in the field and the overseer 'cuses a old man +and jumps on him and breaks his neck. When he seed the old man dead, he +run off to the woods, but massa sent some nigger after him and say for +him to come back, the old man jus' got overhet and died. + +"We went to church on the place and you ought to heared that preachin'. +Obey your massa and missy, don't steal chickens and eggs and meat, but +nary a word 'bout havin' a soul to save. + +"We had parties Saturday nights and massa come out and showed us new +steps. He allus had a extra job for us on Sunday, but he gave us +Christmas Day and all the meat we wanted. But if you had money you'd +better hide it, 'cause he'd git it. + +"The fightin' was did off from us. My father went to war to wait on Josh +Calloway. My father never come back. Massa Jeems cussed and 'bused us +niggers more'n ever, but he took sick and died and stepped off to Hell +'bout six months 'fore we got free. When we was free, they beat drums in +Marshall. I stayed on 'bout seven months and then my mother and me went +to farmin' for ourselves. + +"I wore myself out right in this county and now I'm too old to work. +These folks I lives with takes good care of me and the gov'ment gives me +$11.00 a month what I is proud to git. + + + + +420165 + + + JACOB BRANCH, about 86, was a slave of the Van Loos family, in + Louisiana, who sold him when a baby to Elisha Stevenson, of Double + Bayou, Texas. Jacob helps his son, Enrichs, farm, and is unusually + agile for his age. They live in the Double Bayou settlement, near + Beaumont, Texas. + + +"I's bought and fotched here to Double Bayou when I's jes' three year +old. I and my half-brother, Eleck, he de baby, was both born in +Louisiana on de Van Loos place, but I go by de name of Branch, 'cause my +daddy name Branch. My mama name Renee. Dey split up us family and Elisha +Stevenson buy my mama and de two chillen. I ain't never see my daddy no +more and don't 'member him at all. + +"Old 'Lisha Stevenson he a great one for to raise pigs. He sell sometime +500 hawgs at one time. He take he dogs and drive dem hawgs 'cross de +Neches River all by hisself, to sell dem. Dat how he git money to buy de +niggers, sellin' hawgs and cowhides. + +"Old massa he sho' a good old man, but de old missy, she a tornado! Her +name Miss 'Liza. She could be terrible mean. But sometime she take her +old morrel--dat a sack make for to carry things in--and go out and come +back with plenty joints of sugar cane. She take a knife and sit on de +gallary and peel dat cane and give a joint to every one de li'l chillen. + +"Mama, she work up in de big house, doin' cookin' and washin'. Old massa +go buy a cullud man name Uncle Charley Fenner. He a good old cullud man. +Massa brung him to de quarters and say, 'Renee, here you husband,' and +den he turn to Uncle and say, 'Charley, dis you woman.' Den dey +consider marry. Dat de way dey marry den, by de massa's word. Uncle +Charley, he good step-pa to us. + +"De white folks have de good house with a brick chimney. Us quarters de +good, snug li'l house with flue and oven. Dey didn't bother to have much +furn'chure, 'cause us in dere only to sleep. Us have homemake bench and +'Georgia Hoss' bed with hay mattress. All us cookin' and eatin' done in +de kitchen de big house. Us have plenty to eat, too. De smokehouse allus +full white 'taters and cracklin's hangin' on de wall. Us git dem mos' +any time us want, jes' so long us didn't waste nothin'. Dey have big jar +with buttermilk and 'low us drink all us want. + +"Old lady 'Liza, she have three women to spin when she git ready make de +clothes for everybody. Dey spin and weave and make all us clothes. Us +all wear shirt tail till us 'bout twelve or fourteen, boys and gals, +too. You couldn't tell us apart. + +"Us chillen start to work soon's us could toddle. First us gather +firewood. Iffen it freezin' or hot us have to go to toughen us up. When +us git li'l bigger us tend de cattle and feed hosses and hawgs. By time +us good sprouts us pickin' cotton and pullin' cane. Us ain't never idle. +Sometime us git far out in de field and lay down in de corn row and nap. +But, Lawdy, iffen dey cotch you, dey sho' wore you out! Sunday de +onliest rest day and den de white folks 'low us play. + +"Massa never whup Uncle Charley, 'cause he good nigger and work hard. It +make missy mad and one time when massa gone she go down in de field. +Uncle Charley hoein' corn jes' like massa done told him, jes' singin' +and happy. Old missy she say, 'Nigger, I's sho gwineter whup you.' He +say, 'What for you whup me. I doin' every bit what old massa done tell +me.' But missy think he gittin' it too good, 'cause he ain't never been +whupped. She clumb over de fence and start down de row with de cowhide. +Uncle Charley, he ain't even raise he voice, but he cut de las' weed +outen dat corn and commence to wave he hoe in de air, and he say, +'Missy, I ain't 'vise you come any step closeter.' Dat sho' make her +mad, but she 'fraid to do nothin'. + +"One time she have 'nother nigger name Charlie. Massa go on de trip and +she tell dis Charley iffen he ain't finish grindin' all de cornmeal by +Monday she gwineter give him a t'ousand lashes. He try, but he ain't +able make dat much meal, so come Monday he runned off in de bayou. Dat +night come de big freeze and he down dere with water up to he knees and +when massa come home and go git him, he so froze he couldn't walk. Dey +brung him in de kitchen and old missy cuss him out. Soon's he thaw out, +he done die right dere on de spot. + +"My pore mama! Every washday old missy give her de beatin'. She couldn't +keep de flies from speckin' de clothes overnight. Old missy git up soon +in de mornin', 'fore mama have time git dem specks off. She snort and +say, 'Renee, I's gwineter teach you how to wash.' Den she beat mama with +de cowhide. Look like she cut my mama in two. Many's de time I edges up +and tries take some dem licks off my mama. + +"Slavery, one to 'nother, was purty rough. Every plantation have to +answer for itself. + +"I used to know lots of songs, but I don't know many now. Spiritual +songs, dey comes through visions. Dat's why cullud folks can make dem +better dan white folks. I knowed one song what start out-- + +"'De Jews done kill pore Jesus, +And bury him in de sepulchur; +De grave wouldn't hold him, +Dey place guards all 'round him, +But de angels move de stone, +De Jews done kill pore Jesus, +But de grave it wouldn't hold him.' + +"Dey 'nother song what say-- + +"'Run, sinner, run, +Gawd is a-callin' you. +Run, sinner, run, +De fire'll overtake you.' + +"When I 'bout ten dey sets me ginnin' cotton. Old massa he done make de +cotton with de hand crank. It built on a bench like. I gin de cotton by +turnin' dat crank. When I gits a lapful I puts it in de tow sack and dey +take it to Miss Susan to make de twine with it. I warm and damp de +cotton 'fore de fireplace 'fore I start ginnin' it. + +"Dere school for de white chillen in Double Bayou and I used to go meet +de chillen comin' home and dey stop longside de way and teach me my ABC. +Dey done carry me as far as Baker in de book when old missy find it out +and make dem stop. De war comin' on den and us daren't even pick up a +piece of paper. De white folks didn't want us to larn to read for fear +us find out things. + +"Us livin' down by de Welborn's den and I seed dem haul de logs out of +Pine Island to make dat Welborn house. Old man Hamshire and old man +Remington builded dat Welborn house. It 'cross de bayou, left hand side +Smith's ferry. Dat house still standin' in parts. + +"One mornin' Eleck and me git up at crack of dawn to milk. All at once +come a shock what shake de earth. De big fish jump clean out de bay and +turtles and alligators run out dere ponds. Dey plumb ruint Galveston! +Us runned in de house and all de dishes and things done jump out de +shelf. Dat de first bombardment of Galveston. De sojers put powder under +people's houses and blowin' up Galveston. + +"Young massa Shake Stevenson he vol'teer and git kilt somewheres in +Virginny. Young massa Tucker Stevenson, he ain't 'lieve in war and he +say he never gwine fight. He hide in de woods so de conscrip' men can't +find him. Old man LaCour come 'round and say he have orders for find +Tucker and bring him in dead or 'live. But 'cause he old massa's friend, +he say, 'Why don't you buy de boy's services off?' So old massa take de +boat, 'Catrig,' us calls it, and loads it with corn and sich and us pole +it down to Galveston. De people need dat food so much, dat load supplies +done buy off Massa Tucker from fightin'. + +"After war starts lots of slaves runned off to git to de Yankees. All +dem in dis part heads for de Rio Grande river. De Mexicans rig up +flat-boats out in de middle de river, tied to stakes with rope. When de +cullud people gits to de rope dey can pull deyself 'cross de rest de way +on dem boats. De white folks rid de 'Merican side dat river all de time, +but plenty slaves git through, anyway. + +"I wait on lots of sojers. I have to get smartweed and bile it in salt +water to bath dem in. Dat help de rheumatism. Dem sojers have rheumatism +so bad for standin' day and night in de water. + +"Us sho' in good health dem days. Iffen a cullud man weak dey move de +muscles in he arms, bleed him and give him plenty bacon and cornbread, +and he git so strong he could lift a log. Dey didn't go in for cuttin', +like dey do now. Dey git herbs out de woods, blue mass and quinine and +calomel. I think people jes' die under pills, now. Old lady Field she +make medicine with snakeroot and larkspur and marshroot and redroot. + +"After war am over Massa Tucker brung de freedom papers and read dem. He +say us all am free as Hell. Old man Charley so happy he jes' roll on de +floor like a hoss and kick he heels. De nex' mornin' mama start do +somethin' and missy cuss her out. I runned to missy and say, 'Us free as +de bird.' She sho' whup me for dat, but no more, 'cause she so mean us +all leave. + +"Dat funny. Old man LaFour, what de head de patterrollers and so mean, +he de first to help us niggers after freedom. He loan us he ox team and +pay Uncle Charley a dollar de day for work and a dollar every time my +mama wash for he wife. + +"Old massa and missy split up. She so bad she ain't give him no better +show dan she done us. Old massa gittin' some peaches one day and she +come after him with de buggy whip. He git on he hoss and say, 'Liz, +you's gittin' broad as de beef. You too big for me.' She so mad she spit +fire. Lightenin' done kill her, she upstairs and de big streak hits her. +It knock her under de bed. + +"De first freedom work I done am pullin' up potato hills at two bits a +hunnerd. 'Bout two bits de most us could make in one day. I work two +days to buy mama de turkey hen for Christmas. Anything mama want I think +she got to have. I's growed 'fore I gits much as four bits a day. I's +done earn as much as $1.50 in my time, though. + +"When I's 25 year old I marries Betty Baker but she dead now. De Rev. +Patterson he marry us. Us has four chillen livin'. Turah and Renee, dat +my gals, and Enrichs and Milton, dat my boys. Milton work in Houston and +Enrich help me farm. I's a Mason 30 year. De lodge split up now, but it +answer. + + + + +420069 + + +[Illustration: William Branch] + + + WILLIAM BRANCH, born 1850, 322 Utah St., San Antonio, Texas. + Eyesight is so poor someone must lead him to the store or to + church. William kneels at his bedside each evening at five and says + his prayers. In this ceremony he spends a half hour or more + chanting one Negro spiritual after another. + + +"Yahsur, I was a slave. I was bo'n May 13, 1850, on the place of Lawyer +Woodson in Lunenburg County, Virginia. It was 'bout 75 miles southwest +of Richmond. They was two big plantations, one on one side the road, +yother the yother. My marster owned 75 slaves. He raised tobacco and +cotton. I wukked tobacco sometime, sometime cotton. Dere wasn't no +whippin' or switchin'. We had to wuk hard. Marster Woodson was a rich +man. He live in a great big house, a lumber house painted white. And it +had a great big garden. + +"De slaves lives in a long string of log houses. Dey had dirt floors and +shingle roofs. Marster Woodson's house was shingle roof too. We had home +cured bacon and veg'tables, dried co'n, string beans and dey give us hoe +cakes baked in hot ashes. Dere always was lots of fresh milk. + +"How'd us slaves git de clothes? We carded de cotton, den de women spin +it on a spinnin' wheel. After dat day sew de gahment togeddah +on a sewin' machine. Yahsur, we's got sewin' machine, wid a big wheel +and a handle. One woman tu'n de handle and de yuther woman do de +sewin'. + +"Dat's how we git de clothes for de 75 slaves. Marster's clothes? We +makes dem for de whole fam'ly. De missis send de pattren and de slaves +makes de clothes. Over nigh Richmond a fren' of Marster Woodson has 300 +slaves. Dey makes all de clothes for dem. + +"I was with Marster twel de Yankees come down to Virginia in 1861. De +sergeant of de Yankees takes me up on his hoss and I goes to Washington +wid de Yankees. I got to stay dere 'cause I'd run away from my marster. + +"I stay at de house of Marse Frank Cayler. He's an ole time hack driver. +I was his houseboy. I stay dere twel de year 1870, den I goes to +Baltimore and jines de United States Army. We's sent to Texas 'count of +de Indians bein' so bad. Dey put us on a boat at Baltimore and we landed +at Galveston. + +"Den we marches from Galveston to Fort Duncan. It was up, up, de whole +time. We ties our bedclothes and rolls dem in a bundle wid a strap. We +walks wid our guns and bedclothes on our backs, and de wagons wid de +rations follows us. Dey is pulled by mules. We goes 15 miles ev'ry day. +We got no tents, night come, we unrolls de blankets and sleeps under de +trees, sometime under de brush. + +"For rations we got canned beans, milk and hardtack. De hard tacks is 3 +or 4 in a box, we wets 'em in water and cooks 'em in a skillet. We gits +meat purty often. When we camps for de night de captain say, 'You'all +kin go huntin'.' Before we git to de mountains dere's deer and rabbits +and dey ain't no fences. Often in de dark we sees a big animal and we +shoots. When we bring 'im to camp, de captain say, 'Iffen de cow got +iron burns de rancher gwineter shoot hisself a nigger scout.' But de cow +ain't got no iron, it's--what de name of de cow what ain't feel de iron? +Mavrick, yahsur. We eats lots of dem Mavricks. We's goin' 'long de +river bottom, and before we comes to Fort Duncan we sees de cactus and +muskeet. Dere ain't much cattle, but one colored scout shoots hisself a +bear. Den we eats high. Fort Duncan were made of slab lumber and de roof +was gravel and grass. + +"Den we's ordered to Fort Davis and we's in de mountains now. Climb, +climb all day, and de Indians give us a fit ev'ry day. We kills some +Indians, dey kills a few soldiers. We was at Fort Clark a while. At Fort +Davis I jines de colored Indian Scouts, I was in Capt. George L. +Andrew's Co. K. + +"We's told de northern Cheyennes is on a rampus and we's goin' to Fort +Sill in Indian Territory. Before we gits to Fort Concho (San Angelo) de +Comanches and de Apaches give us a fit. We fitten' 'em all de time and +when we gits away from de Comanches and Apaches we fitten de Cheyennes. +Dey's seven feet tall. Dey couldn't come through that door. + +"When we gits to Fort Sill, Gen. Davidson say de Cheyennes is off de +reservation, and he say, 'You boys is got to git dem back. Iffen you +kill 'em, dey can't git back to de reservation.' Den we goes scoutin' +for de Cheyennes and dey is scoutin' for us. Dey gits us first, on de +Wichita River was 500 of 'em, and we got 75 colored Indian Scouts. Den +Red Foot, de Chief of de Cheyennes, he come to see Capt. Lawson and say +he want rations for his Indians. De captain say he cain't give no +rations to Indians off de reservation. Red Foot say he don't care 'bout +no reservation and he say he take what we got. Capt. Lawson 'low we +gotter git reinforcements. We got a guide in de scout troop, he call +hisself Jack Kilmartin. De captain say, 'Jack, I'se in trouble, how kin +I git a dispatch to Gen. Davidson?' Jack say, 'I kin git it through.' +And Jack, he crawl on his belly and through de brush and he lead a pony, +and when he gits clear he rides de pony bareback twel he git to Fort +Sill. Den Gen. Davidson, he soun' de gin'ral alarm and he send two +companies of cavalry to reinforce us. But de Cheyennes give 'em a fit +all de way, dey's gotter cut dere way through de Cheyennes. + +"And Col. Shafter comes up, and goes out in de hills in his shirt +sleeves jus' like you's sittin' dere. Dey's snow on de groun' and de +wind's cole, but de colonel don't care, and he say, 'Whut's dis order +Gen. Davidson give? Don' kill de Cheyennes? You kill 'em all from de +cradle to de Cross.' + +"And den we starts de attack. De Cheyennes got Winchesters and rifles +and repeaters from de government. Yahsur, de government give 'em de guns +dey used to shoot us. We got de ole fashion muzzle loaders. You puts one +ball in de muzzle and shove de powder down wid de ramrod. Den we went in +and fit 'em, and 'twas like fightin' a wasp's nest. Dey kills a lot of +our boys and we nearly wipes 'em out. Den we disarms de Cheyennes we +captures, and turns dere guns in to de regiment. + +"I come to San Antonio after I'se mustered out and goes to work for de +Bell Jewelry Company and stays dere twel I cain't work no more. Did I +like de army? Yahsur, I'd ruthuh be in de army dan a plantation slave." + + + + +420230 + + +[Illustration: Clara Brim] + + + CLARA BRIM, slave of William Lyons of Branch, Louisiana, now lives + in Beaumont, Texas. The town of Branch was known in slave days as + Plaquemine Bouley. Clara estimates her age to be 100 or 102, and + from various facts known to her and her family, this would seem to + be correct. + + +"Old massa's name was William Lyons. I didn't have no old missus, 'cause +he was a bachelor. He had a big plantation. I don't know how big but dey +somethin' like twenty fam'lies of slaves and some dem fam'lies had +plenty in dem. My ma was Becky Brim and pa, he name Louis Brim. She come +from Old Virginny. Dey work in de field. I had two sister name Cass and +Donnie and a brudder name Washington. He went off to de war. When it +break out dey come and take him off to work in de army. He lost in dat +war. He didn't come back. Nobody ever know what happen to him. + +"Some de houses log house and some plank, but dey all good. Dey well +built and had brick chimneys. Dey houses what de wind didn't blow in. Us +had beds, too, not dem built in de wall. Us sho' treat good in slavery +times, yes, suh. Old massa give us plenty clothes to keep us good and +warm. He sho' did. + +"Old massa, he wasn't marry and eat de same things de slaves eat. He +didn't work dem in de heat of de day. 'Bout eleven o'clock, when dat sun +git hot, he call dem out de field. He give dem till it git kind of cool +befo' he make dem go back in de field. He didn't have no overseer. He +seed 'bout de plantation hisself. He raise cotton and corn and sweet +'taters and peas and cane, didn't fool with rice. He didn't go in for +oats, neither. + +"When Sunday come Old Massa ask who want to go to church. Dem what wants +could ride hoss-back or walk. Us go to de white folks church. Dey sot in +front and us sot in back. Us had prayer meetin', too, reg'lar every +week. One old cullud man a sort of preacher. He de leader in 'ligion. + +"When de slaves go to work he give dem de task. Dat so much work, so +many rows cotton to chop or corn to hoe. When dey git through dey can do +what dey want. He task dem on Monday. Some dem git through Thursday +night. Den dey can hire out to somebody and git pay for it. + +"Old Massa even git de preacher for marryin' de slaves. And when a slave +die, he git de preacher and have Bible readin' and prayin'. Mostest de +massas didn't do dat-a-way. + +"I as big in war time as I is now. I used to do anything in de field +what de men done. I plow and pull fodder and pick cotton. But de hardes' +work I ever done am since I free. Old Massa, he didn't work us hard, +noway. + +"He allus give us de pass, so dem patterrollers not cotch us. Dey 'bout +six men on hoss-back, ridin' de roads to cotch niggers what out without +de pass. Iffen dey cotch him it am de whippin'. But de niggers on us +place was good and civ'lized folks. Dey didn't have no fuss. Old Massa +allus let dem have de garden and dey can raise things to eat and sell. +Sometime dey have some pig and chickens. + +"I been marry his' one time and he been dead 'bout forty-one years now. +I stay with Old Massa long time after freedom. In 1913 I come live with +my youngest girl here in Beaumont. You see, I can't 'member so much. I +has lived so long my 'memberance ain't so good now. + + + + +420248 + + +[Illustration: Sylvester Brooks] + + + SYLVESTER BROOKS, 87, was born in Green County, Alabama, a slave of + Josiah Collier. The old Negro's memory is poor, but he managed to + recall a few incidents of slave days. He lives in Mart, Texas. + + +"I's born 'bout de year 1850, near de Tom Bigbee river in Alabama, on a +plantation own by Marse Josiah Collier. My folks was Henderson and +Martha Brooks and I's de only child den. + +"Marse Collier owned seventy fam'lies of slaves and dey all lived in dey +quarters 'bout a mile from de big house. When freedom come Marse Collier +sent for all de slaves and lines us up in a row, two deep, and helt up +he hands and say, 'Boys, you is free as I is. All of you what wants to +can go, and all of you what wants to can work for me on wages dis year. +Next year I'll give you a crop or work for wages.' Dey all stays but +two, and one of dem two my daddy, and he lef' mammy and six chillen and +never come back. + +"Us stays on till Marse Collier and Missus both dies, and den stays with +he oldes' gal, and didn't go 'way till we's growed and has fam'lies of +our own. + +"I 'members best de Fourth of July. De white folks have lots to eat for +dem and us and we plays games and goes swimmin'. + +"Next thing I 'members is de patterrollers, 'cause dey whip me every +time dey cotches me without my pass. Dat de way dey make us stay home at +night, and it made good niggers out of us, 'cause we couldn't chase +round and git in no meanness. + +"Old Marse often told me 'bout de stars fallin'. It was 'long 'bout +sundown and growed dark all a sudden and de chickens goes to roost. Den +some stars with long tails 'gins to shoot, den it look like all de +stars had come out of Heaven, and did dey fall! De stars not all what +fell. De white folks and de niggers fell on dere knees, prayin' to Gawd +to save dem iffen de world comin' to a end, and de women folks all run +down in de cellar and stayed till mornin'. Old Marse say it was in 1833, +and he say dem stars fall awhile and quit awhile, like de showers when +it rains. + +"'Bout a year after freedom Old Marse give us a piece of land for a +church and dis was de school, too. De preacher's name was Christmas +Crawford, and dat de reason I 'members it, it so funny to us. De nigger +teacher named Nimron. De niggers has de blueback spellers and larns +'rithmetic, too. + +"On Thanksgivin' Day de niggers goes round to de white folks houses and +gives a ser'nade, like dis: + +"'De old bee make de honeycomb, + De young bee make de honey-- + De nigger make de cotton and corn, + And de white folks git de money. + +"'De raccoon he a curious man, + He never works till dark; + Nothin' ever 'sturbs he mind, + Till he hear old Towser bark.' + +"Den de white folks asks us in and help ourselves to de cake or wine or +whatever dey has, and we does dis on Christmas, too. + +"We had a song we'd sing when we's thinkin' of comin' to Texas: + +"'We'll put for de South, for seven-up and loo, + Chime in, niggers, won't you come 'long, too? + No use talkin' when de nigger wants to go, + Where de corn top blossoms and canebrakes grow. + Come 'long, Cuba, and dance de polka juba, + Way down South, where de corn tops grow.' + +"I'd like to be in old Alabama to die, but Old Marse and Missus gone, +and it ain't no use goin' dere no more. + + + + +420014 + + +[Illustration: Donaville Broussard] + + + DONAVILLE BROUSSARD, a polished gentleman of his race, was the son + of a mulatto slave of Emilier Caramouche. He was born in 1850, but + appears vigorous. Light skinned, with blue eyes and a genial + expression, he gave the story of his life in the French patois + spoken by Louisiana French Negroes, which has been translated into + English. + + +"My mama was daughter of one of the Carmouche boys. One of M'sieur +Francois' sons. She call herself Armance Carmouche. She was house +servant for the family and I worked around the house. I remember my +Madame brought me the little basket and it had a strap on it. I put the +strap over the shoulder and went round with the sharp stick and picked +up the leaves on the ground with the stick. + +"It was a great house with trees and flowers. Madame liked all clean and +pretty. I never worked hard. The ladies and my mama, too, petted me as +if I was the white child. + +"M'sieur had a widow sister. She made us learn the prayers. We were glad +to go where she was for she always had something good in her bag for us. +I never saw the baptizing. In those days all the slaves had the religion +of the master and the Catholics didn't have no baptizing. They didn't +have to half-drown when they got their religion. The church was 15 or 20 +miles off. The priest came and held Mass for the white folks sometimes. + +"I remember one wedding. My aunt got married. M'sieur Caramouche killed +a big pig. The white folks ate in the house. The slaves sat under the +trees and ate in the yard. At four o'clock the justice of the peace +came. He was the friend of M'sieur Caramouche. He made my aunt and the +man hold hands and jump over the broom handle. When the priest came he +made M'sieur sign some papers. + +"A slave always had to ask M'sieur to marry. He always let the women +slaves marry who they wanted. He didn't loose by that. He was so good +the men would come to his plantation. + +"We all wore the long chemise. Made out of heavy cloth. They made the +cloth on the place and the women sewed it up. We didn't wear the shoes. +We didn't like them when we had them. + +"Each slave could have the little garden. They raised vegetables and had +a couple of beehives for the honey. + +"When the Yankees came they told us we could be free, but I don't know +of any slaves that left. Old M'sieur died of the fever in the second +year of the war. His wife died before he did. No children. They sold us, +the house and everything. M'sieur Cyprien Arceneaux of Lafayette bought +me and Madame Arvillien Bernard of St. Pierre bought the mama. They used +to call it St. Pierre. They call it Carenero now. When war was finished +I left M'sieur Arceneaux and lived with mama. + +"A year and a half after that the mama married a black man and us three +farmed the little farm. My steppapa didn't like me. I was light. He and +me couldn't get along. So when I had 20 years I left there and hired +myself out. I saved till I bought a little piece of land for myself. +Then I married and raised the family. Me and my wife and the children +farmed that place up to ten years ago and then she died. My son farms +the place now and I came to Beaumont. I live with my girl. + +"I remember me in time of war we danced. Round dances. We sang and +danced La Boulangere in time of war. De song go: + +"'La Boulangere ait ta victoire +Et nous, qui sont en guerre, +Voici le jour que je dois partir. + +"'Mon cher ami, tu pars, +Tu me laisses un enfant dans les bras + et prend tes armes. +Et moi, je vais dans le moment + verser des larmes. + +"'Quand je serai en le guerre, [Handwritten Note: a la guerre?] +Tu serais de garnison, +Et tu m'oublirais moi, +Qui serai en les haillons. + +"'J'entends le tombour qui m'appelle + A les points de jour. +Mon cher Armande, si tu m'aimes +Tu penserais a moi, quand tu serais, + Dans tes plaisir. +Moi--que serai au bout du fusil!' + +"I got one real scare. I was with M'sieur Arceneaux in Lafayette. There +was the battle. Lots of fighting. Lots of killing. The Yankees came +right inside the house. I stayed hid. + +"I don't know whether it's been better since the war. At all times one +has his miseries. We managed to get along on the farm. But now I have +nothing. Oh, I don't mean slavery was better than to be free. I mean +times were better. + +"The reason I'm so light is, my mama was half-white. My papa was Neville +Broussard and he was all white. + + + + +420233 + + +[Illustration: Fannie Brown] + + + FANNIE BROWN, aged Negro of Waco, Texas, does not know her age. She + was born near Richmond, Virginia, a slave of the Koonce family. + They sold her to Mrs. Margaret Taylor, of Belton, Texas, when + Fannie was only five years old, and she never saw her mother again. + + +"I was borned near Richmond, over in Virginy, but Massa Koonce sold me. +When I was five year old he brung me to Belton and sold me to Missy +Margaret Taylor, and she kep' me till she died. I was growed den and +sold to Massa Jim Fletcher and dere I stayed till I was freed. + +"Dere no spring near Massa Fletcher's place and us have to git water out +de well, what dey call de sweep well. Dey cut down a young saplin' and +weight it on one end with rocks and tie de bucket on a rope on de other +end and brace de pole over de well. + +"While de big house bein' built dey slep' in a big wagon and cook over a +fireplace make out of rock what us niggers pick up in de woods. Us cook +lots of good eatin' out on dat fireplace, dem wild turkeys and wild meat +sho' tasted good. + +"Massa trades ten yards of red calico and two hatchets to de Indians for +some skins and take de skins to Austin and traded dem fer de spinnin' +wheel and loom, and hauls dem to Belton in de ox carts. + +"My missy larnt me to spin and weave and did dis child git many a +whuppin' 'fore I could do it good. Den she larnt me to cook and start me +cookin' two or three days 'fore company come. Dat when us have de good +old pound cake. De li'l chillen stand round when I bake, so as to git to +lick de spoons and pans, and how dey pop dere lips when dey lickin' dat +good dough! + +"Massa have garden seed he brung to Texas, but he didn't think it would +grow, so he kep' it several months, but den he plants it and up it come, +jus' like in de old states. Us used dem tomatoes for flowers, 'cause us +thunk dem pretty red things would kill us or put de spell on us. But de +white folks et dem and us larn to. + +"I was growed and have chillen 'fore de freedom war. I never did have no +special husban' 'fore de war. I marries after de war. + +"My, how dem niggers could play de fiddle back in de good old days. On +de moonlight nights, us dance by de light of de moon under a big oak +tree, till most time to go to work next mornin'. + +"De fus' barb wire us ever seen, us scairt of it. Us thunk lightnin' be +sho' to strike it. It sho' keep de stock in, though. + +"I seed men ridin' hosses with dead men tied 'cross dey hoss, endurin' +de freedom war. But I can't tell much 'bout dat war, 'cause I couldn't +read and I never git any place 'cept home at my work. I love dem days +better dan I do dese times now, but I'm too old to 'member much. + + + + +420086 + + +[Illustration: Fred Brown] + + + FRED BROWN, 84, 1414 Jones St., Fort Worth, Texas, was born a slave + to Mr. John Brown, who owned a plantation along the Mississippi + River, in Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana. Fred was eight years old + when the Civil War started. During the War, he and a number of + other slaves were taken to Kaufman Co., Texas, as refugees, by + Henry Bidder, an overseer. He worked five years as a laborer after + he was freed, then worked as a cook until 1933. + + +"Sho', I has time to talk to you 'bout my life, 'cause I can't work any +more and I has nothin' but time. It am de rhumatis' in de leg, it ketch +me dat way, from de hip to de knee,--zip--dat pain goes! + +"I's bo'n in ole Louisiana, in Baton Rouge Parish, on de 16th of +November, in 1853. I knows, 'cause massa give dis nigger a statement. +You see, dey don' larn de niggers to read in dem days, nor figger, but I +can read figgers. See dem on dat car? Dat am 713. Dat am bad figgers, I +never has any truck with sich numbers as de 7 or de 13. + +"Massa have quite pert a plantation in Louisiana, dis side de +Mississippi River. De slaves him own am from 40 to 50 sometimes. In our +family am pappy, mammy and three brudders and one sister, Julia, and six +cousins. Dat am 13 and dat's why massa had so much trouble with niggers +runnin' 'way! + +"Everyone have dere certain wo'k and duties for to do. Mammy am de +family cook and she he'p at de loom, makin' de cloth. My daddy am de +blacksmith and shoemaker and de tanner. I 'spains how he do tannin.' He +puts de hides in de water with black-oak bark and purty soon de hair +come off and den he rolls and poun's de hides for to make dem soft. + +"When I's 'bout 8 years old, or sich, dey starts me to he'pin' in de +yard and as I grows older I he'ps in de fields. Massa, him raises cane +and co'n mostly, no cotton. + +"De buildings on de place am de resident of de massa and de quarters for +de niggers. Dey am built from logs and de quarters has no floors and no +windows, jus' square holes whar de windows ought to be. Dey have bunks +for sleepin' and a table and benches, and cooks in de fireplace. + +"We allus have plenty for to eat, plenty co'nmeal, 'lasses and heavy, +brown sugar. We gits flour bread once de week, but lots of butter and +milk. For de coffee, we roasts meal bran and for de tea, de sassafras. +Den we has veg'tables and fruit dat am raised on de place. De meat +mostly am de wil' game, deer and de turkey, but sometimes hawg meat. + +"Massa have overseer and overlooker. De overseer am in charge of wo'k +and de overlooker am in charge of de cullud women. De overseer give all +de whippin's. Sometimes when de nigger gits late, 'stead of comin' home +and takin' de whippin' him goes to de caves of de river and stays and +jus' comes in night time for food. When dey do dat, de dawgs is put +after dem and den it am de fight 'tween de nigger and de dawg. Jus' once +a nigger kills de dawg with de knife, dat was close to freedom and it +come 'fore dey ketches him. When dey whips for runnin' off, de nigger am +tied down over a barrel and whipped ha'd, till dey draws blood, +sometimes. + +"Dem fool niggers what sneak off without de pass, have two things for to +watch, one is not to be ketched by de overseer and de other am de +patter-rollers. De nigger sho' am skeert of de patters. One time my +pappy and my mammy goes out without de pass and de patters takes after +dem. I'se home, 'cause I's too young to be pesterin' roun'. I sees dem +comin,' and you couldn' catched dem with a jackrabbit. One time anoudder +nigger am runnin' from de patters and hides under de house. Dey fin' him +and make him come out. You's seen de dawg quaver when him's col'? Well, +dat nigger have de quaverment jus' like dat. De patters hits him five or +six licks and lets him go. Dat nigger have lots of power--him gits to de +quarters ahead of his shadow. + +"Now, I tell 'bout some good times. We is 'lowed to have parties and de +dance and we has for music, sich as de banjo and de jew's harp and a +'cordian. Dey dance de promenade and de jeg. Sometimes day +have de jiggin' contest and two niggers puts a glass of water on dere +heads and den see who can dance de longes' without spillin' any water. +Den we has log-rollin'. Dere was two teams, 'bout three to de team, and +dey see which can roll de log de fastes'. Den sometimes a couple am +'lowed to git married and dere am extry fixed for supper. De couple +steps over de broom laid en de floor, dey's married den. + +"Sometimes de overlooker don' let dem git married. I 'splains it dis +way. He am used for to father de chillun. Him picks de portly, and de +healthy women dat am to rear de portly chillen. De overlooker, he am +portly man. Dem dat him picks he overlooks, and not 'low dem to marry or +to go round with other nigger men. If dey do, its whippin' sho.' De +massa raises some fine, portly chillen, and dey sel' some, after dey's +half-grown, for $500 and sometimes more. + +"De war didn' make no diff'runce, dat I notices, 'cept massa and one +overseer jines de army. Massa come back, but de overseer am captured by +de Yankees, so massa says, and we never hears 'bout him after dat. De +soldiers passes by lots of times, both de 'federates and de 'blue +bellies', but we's never bothered with dem. De fightin' was not close +enough to make trouble. Jus' 'fore freedom come, de new overseer am +'structed to take us to Texas and takes us to Kaufman County and we is +refugees dere. De Yankee mans tells us we am free and can do sich as we +pleases. Dat lef' us in charge of no one and we'uns, jus' like cattle, +wen' wanderin'. + +"Pappy, him goes back to Lousiana to massa's place. Dat am de las' we +hears from him. Mammy and I goes to Henderson and I works at dis and dat +and cares for my mammy ten years, till she dies. Den I gits jobs as cook +in Dallas and Houston and lots of other places. + +"I gits married in 1901 to Ellen Tilles and I cooks till 'bout four +years ago, till I gits de rhumatis'. Dat's all I can tell you 'bout de +ole days. + + + + +420096 + + +[Illustration: James Brown] + + + JAMES BROWN, 84, blind for the last 12 years and now living alone + in a shack at 408 W. Belknap, Fort Worth, Texas, was born a slave + of Mr. Berney in Bell Co., Texas, in 1853. While still an infant, + he and his mother were sold to Mr. John Blair, who farmed four + miles south of Waco, Texas. JAMES has no known living relatives and + a pension of $14.00 a month is his sole support. + + +"My fust Marster was named Marster Berney. I'se don' 'member hims fust +name nor nothin' 'bout him. I'se don' know nothin' 'bout my pappy, but +Marster Blair told me hims name was John Brown. + +"Marster Blair have hims farm four miles south of Waco. We'uns lived in +de cabins and have de fiddle and de banjoes. We'uns sing and have music +on Sundays. Marster never whups we'uns and him was allus good to us. Him +gives us plenty to eat, and meat, too. Hims keeps 'bout 20 hawgs dere +all de time. De women makes de clothes and we'uns have all we need. + +"De fust work I does is drivin' de Marster to town. Marster have fine +hosses. Marster have hims office in Waco and we drive dere every day. +I'se stays all day ready to drive him home. Mos' every day hims give me +five cents or maybe de dime. Hims was a big law man and went to de +legislature down in Austin. His picture am in Austin, 'cause I'se down +dere years ago and seen his picture in a case wid Gov'ner Ross' picture. + +"Anudder thing dat Marster does powe'ful good am trade de niggers. He +buys and sells 'em all de time. You see, dere was traders dat traveled +from place to place dem days and dey takes sometimes as much as 100 +niggers for to trade. Dere was sheds outside of town, whar dey keeps de +niggers when dey comes to town. + +"De Marster and de trader talks dis away: 'How you trade?' 'I'se gives +you even trade.' 'No, I'se wants $25.00 for de diff'runce.' 'I'se gives +you $5.00.' Dat's de way dey talks on and on. Maybe dey makes de trade +and maybe dey don'. + +"Dey have auction sometime and Marster allus tend 'em. At de auction +I'se seen dem sell a family. Maybe one man buy de mammy, anudder buy de +pappy and anudder buy all de chillens or maybe jus' one, like dat. I'se +see dem cry like dey at de funeral when dey am parted. Dey has to drag +'em away. + +"When de auction begin, he says: 'Dis nigger is so and so ole, he never +'bused, he soun' as a dollar. Jus' look at de muscle and de big +shoulders. He's worth a thousan' of any man's money. How much am I +offered?' Den de biddin' starts. It goes like dis: '$200 I'se hear, does +I'se hear $250, does I hear $300.' Den de nigger takes hims clothes--dey +have one extry suit--and goes wid de man dat buys him. + +"De day befo' Marster gives we'uns freedom, he says to we'uns, 'I'se +wants all you niggers to come to de front of de house Sunday mornin!' +We'uns was dere and he was standin' on de gallery, holdin' a paper in +hims han' and readin'. Dere was tears in hims eyes and some drap on de +paper. I'se have tears in my eyes, too; mos' of 'em have. When hims done +readin', hims says: 'You darkies is as free as I'se is. You can go or +you can stay. Those dat stay till de crops laid by, I'se will give $5.00 +a month.' + +"Den he takes de little niggers and says, 'De little fellows who I'se +have sold dere mammies will stay wid me till dey am 21 years ole. You +little fellows, I'se know you's age and I'se give yous de statement.' + +"Mos' of de niggers stays wid him, but dey lef' fust one and den tudder. +I'se stays on wid him for many years and works as coachman. When I lef' +de Marster, 'twas to work for a farmer for one year, den I'se comes to +Fort Worth. I'se works in lumberya'd for long time. + +"For de las' 12 years I'se been blin'. I'se had hard time after dat till +de las' year but I'se gits de pension each month, dat am a heap of help. +Dis nigger am thankful for what de Lawd have blessed me wid. + + + + +420104 + + +[Illustration: Josie Brown] + + + JOSIE BROWN was born about 1859, in Victoria, Texas. She belonged + to George Heard. Her mother was born free, a member of the Choctaw + Nation, but she was stolen and sold as a slave. Josie now lives in + Woodville, Texas. + + +"I's bo'n on Christmas day, in Victoria. Got here jus' in time for de +eggnog! Dat 'bout 1859, 'cause I's six year ole de Christmas 'fore +freedom. My mudder was a free bo'n Injun woman. Jus' like any ole, +demmed Choctaw down in de woods. She was stole and sol' by a +spec'lator's gang. Us move to Tyler when I one mont' ole. + +"We lib on a big farm and my mudder suckle her thirteen chillun and ole +mistus seven. Bob, my brudder, he go to Mansfiel' and we never hear of +him no more. He wen' with young marster, Wesley Heard. I 'member de +mornin' dey lef', dey had to wait for him, 'cause he'd been out seein' +his gal. + +"De marstar hab a big log house close to de road. De quarters was +'cordin' to de family what live dere. De stage line through Woodville +pass close by. I 'member sittin' on de rail fence to see de stage go by. +Dat was a fine sight! De stage was big, rough carriage and dey was four +or five hosses on de line. De bugle blow when dey go by, with de dus' +behin' dem. Dey was comin' from Jasper, in Louisian', and everywhere. + +"When us little dey hab to keep us in de house 'cause de bald eagle pick +up chillen jus' like de hawk pick up chicken. Dey was lots of catamoun' +and bears and deer in de woods. Us never 'llowed play 'lone in de +woods. + +"I didn' do nothin' 'cep' eat and sleep and foller ole mistus 'round. +She giv me good clothes 'cause my mudder was de weaver. De clothes jus' +cut out straight down and dyed with all kinds of bark. I hab to keep de +head comb and grease with lard. De lil' white chillun play with me but +not de udder nigger chilluns much. Us pull de long, leaf grass and plait +it and us make rag doll and playhouse and grapevine swing. Dere's plenty +grapes, scudlong, sour blue grape and sweet, white grape. Dey make jelly +and wine outta dem. Dey squeeze de grapes and put de juice in a +jimmijohn(demijohn) to fo'men'. + +"My mudder name was Keyia. Dat Injun. Daddy's name was Reuben. I 'member +when I's lil' us goes visit my uncle, Major Scott. He lib in Polk County +and he wore earring in he ears and beads and everyt'ing. He's a Injun. +He dead now, many year. + +"My daddy work in de fiel'. He sow de rice and raise t'baccy. Dey have +fiel's of it. Dey put it in de crack of de fence to press, den dey dry +it on de barn roof. Dat was smokin' t'baccy! For de chewin' t'baccy, dey +soak it in sugar and honey. Us never see snuff den. + +"On Sunday us didn' work. We has chu'ch meetin'. But dey has to have it +in de ya'd, so de white folks could see de kin' of religion 'spounded. + +"I seed some bad sight in slavery, but ain' never been 'bused myself. I +seed chillun too lil' to walk from dey mammies sol' right off de block +in Woodville. Dey was sol' jus' like calfs. I seed niggers in han' +locks. + +"After freedom dey wuk a whole year and den Major Sangers, he finally +come and make de white folks tu'n us loose. I stay on for years, 'till +ole mistus die. She larn me to knit and spin and sich like. + +"In de early day, us hab to be keerful. Dey say witches ride dey hosses +on de da'k nights. Us allus put hossshoes over de door to keep de witch +out. Iffen us go out at night, us go roun' de house three time so de +witch not come in while us gone. + +"I's fifteen year ole when I marry. Giles Paul was from de Wes'. He was +de fus' husban'. Us hab a real weddin' with a bride veil. My weddin' +dress hang 'way back on de flo', and shine like silver. Dey hab big +dance and eat supper. + +"My second husban' name' Robert Brown and I's mudder of ten chillun. +'Sides dat, I raises six or seven day I pick up on de street 'cause dey +orfums and hab nobody to care for dem. Some dem chillun drif' 'bout now +and I wouldn' know 'em if I seed 'em! + + + + +420211 + + +[Illustration: Zek Brown] + + + ZEK BROWN, 80, was born a slave of Green Brown, owner of six slave + families, in Warren County, Tennessee. Zek came to Texas in 1868, + with Sam Bragg. Zek now lives at 407 W. Bluff St., in Fort Worth, + Texas. + + +"My name am Zek Brown and Massa Green Brown owned me. He have a +plantation in Tennessee and own all my folks, what was my pappy and +mammy and two sisters. I never seed any of dem since I ran 'way from +there, when I's ten years old. + +"I sometimes wishes I's back on de plantation. I's took good care of +dere and massa am awful good. Each fam'ly have dere own cabin and it +warn't so much for niceness but we lives comfor'ble and has plenty to +eat and wear. My mammy work de loom, makin' cloth, and us chillen wears +linsey cloth shirts till dey gives us pants. Massa buy he fam'ly nice +clothes but dey wears linsey clothes everyday. Same with shoes, dey am +made on de plantation and de first store shoes I has am after surrender. +My mammy buys me a pair with brass tips on de toe, and am I dress up +den! + +"De food am bester dan what I's had since dem days. Dey raises it all +but de salt and sich. You wouldn't 'lieve how us et den. It am ham and +bacon, 'cause dey raises all de hawgs. It am cornmeal and some white +flour and fruit and honey and 'lasses and brown sugar. De 'lasses am +black as I is and dat am some black. I wishes I was dere and mammy call +me, and I can smell dat ham fryin' right now. + +"Not once does I know of de massa whippin' and him don't talk rough +even. Jus' so de work am done we does as we pleases, long as us +reas'ble. Us have parties and dancin' and singin'. De music am de banjo +and de fiddle. + +"I don't 'member when de war start but I 'member when it stop and massa +call all us together and tell us we's no more slaves. Him talk lots +'bout what it mean and how it am diff'rent and we'uns have to make our +own way and can't 'pend on him like. He say if us stay dere'll be wages +or we can share crop and everybody stay. My folks stays one year and den +moves to 'nother he farms. Pappy keep de farm and mammy teach school. +Her missie done larnt her to read and sich from time she a young'un, so +she have eddication so good dey puts her to teachin'. + +"De way I leaves home am dis. One day mammy teachin' school and me and +my sister am home, and I 'cides she need de haircut. She want it, too. +So I gits de shears and goes to work and after I works a while de job +don't look so good, so I cuts some more and den it look worse and I +tries to fix it and first thing I knows dere ain't no hair left to cut. +When mammy come home she pays me for de work with de rawhide whip and +dat hurts my feelin's so bad I 'cides to git even by runnin' 'way a few +days. It am 'bout sundown and I starts to go and comes to Massa Sam +Bragg's place. I's tired den and not so strong 'bout de idea and 'cides +to rest. I walks into he yard and dere am a covered wagon standin' and +loaded with lots of stuff and de front end open. I finds de soft place +in de back and goes to sleep, and when I wakes up it am jus' gittin' +daylight and dat wagon am a-movin'.' + +"I don't say nothin'. I's skeert and waits for dat wagon to stop, so's I +can crawl out. I jus' sits and sits and when it stop I crawls out and +Massa Bragg say, 'Good gosh, look what am crawlin' out de wagon! He look +at me a while and den he say, 'You's too far from home for me to take +you back and you'll git lost if you tries to walk home. I guesses I'll +have to take you with me.' I thinks him am goin' some place and comin' +back, but it am to Texas him come and stop at Birdville. Dat am how dis +nigger come to Texas. + +"I's often wish my mammy done whip me so hard I couldn't walk off de +place, 'cause from den on I has mighty hard times. I stays with Massa +Bragg four years and then I hunts for a job where I can git some wages. +I gits it with Massa Joe Henderson, workin' on he farm and I's been +round these parts ever since and farmed most my life. + +"I gits into a picklement once years ago. I's 'rested on de street. I's +not done a thing, jus' walkin' 'long de street with 'nother fellow and +dey claim he stole somethin'. I didn't know nothin' 'bout since. Did dey +turn me a-loose? Dey turn me loose after six months on de chain gang. I +works on de road three months with a ball and chain on de legs. After +dat trouble, I sho' picks my comp'ny. + +"I marries onct, 'bout forty years ago, and after four years she drops +dead with de heart mis'ry. Us have no chillen so I's alone in de world. +It am all right long as I could work, but five years ago dis right arm +gits to shakin' so bad I can' work no more. For a year now dey pays me +$9.00 pension. It am hard to live on dat for a whole month, but I's glad +to git it. + + + + +4210129 + + + MADISON BRUIN, 92, spent his early days as a slave on the Curtis + farm in the blue grass region of Kentucky, where he had some + experience with some of the fine horses for which the state is + famous. Here, too, he had certain contacts with soldiers of John + Morgan, of Confederate fame. His eyes are keen and his voice mellow + and low. His years have not taken a heavy toll of his vitality. + + +"I's a old Kentucky man. I's born in Fayette County, 'bout five miles +from Lexington, right where dere lots of fine hosses. My old massa was +name Jack Curtis and de old missus was Miss Addie. My mother name Mary +and she die in 1863 and never did see freedom. I don't 'member my daddy +a-tall. + +"De place was jis' a farm, 'cause dey didn't know nothin' 'bout +plantations up dere in Kentucky. Dey raise corn and wheat and garlic and +fast hosses. Dey used to have big hoss races and dey had big tracks and +I's stood in de middle of dat big track in Lexington and watch dem +ex'cise de hosses. Sometimes I got to help dem groom some dem grand +hosses and dat was de big day for me. I don't 'member dem hosses names, +no, suh, but I knowed one big bay hoss what won de race nearly every +time. + +"I had two sisters name Jeanette and Fanny and a brother, Henry, and +after my daddy die, my mother marries a man name Paris and I had one +half-brother call Alfred Paris. + +"Old massa was good to us and give us plenty food. He never beat us +hard. He had a son what jis' one month older'n me and we run 'round and +play lots. Old massa, he whip me and he own son jis' de same when we +bad. He didn't whip us no more'n he ought to, though. Dey was good +massas and some mean ones, and some worthless cullud folks, too. + +"Durin' de war de cholera broke out 'mongst de people and everybody +scairt dey gwine cotch it. Dey say it start with de hurtin' in de +stomach and every time us hurt in de stomach, missus make us come quick +to de big house. Dat suit us jis' right and when dey sends Will and me +to hoe or do somethin' us didn't want to do, pretty soon I say, 'Willie, +I think my stomach 'ginnin to hurt. I think dis mis'ry a sign I gittin' +de cholera.' Den him say, 'Us better go to de big house like ma say,' +and with dat, us quit workin'. Us git out lots of work dat way, but us +ain't ever took de cholera yit. + +"Durin' de war John Morgan's men come and took all de hosses. Dey left +two and Willie and me took dem to hide in de plum thicket, but us jis' +git out de gate when de sojers come 'gain and dey head us off and take +de last two hosses. + +"My mother she wore de Yankee flag under her dress like a petticoat when +de 'federates come raidin'. Other times she wore it top de dress. When +dey hears de 'federates comin' de white folks makes us bury all de gold +and de silver spoons out in de garden. Old massa, he in de Yankee army, +'cause dey 'script him, but he sons, John and Joe, dey volunteers. + +"Old massa he never sold none of he slaves. I used to hear him and +missus fussin' 'bout de niggers, 'cause some 'long to her and some to +him and dey have de time keepin' dem straighten' out. + +Us boys have good time playin'. Us draw de line and some git on one side +and some de other. Den one sing out + +"'Chickama, Chickama, craney crow, + Went to de well to wash my toe; + When I git back my chicken was gone, + What time, old witch?' + +"Den somebody holler out, 'One o'clock' or 'Two o'clock' or any time, +and dem on one side try to cotch dem on de other side. + +"When I's young I didn't mind plowin', but I didn't like to ride at +fust, but dey make me larn anyhow. Course, dat white boy and me, us like +most anything what not too much work. Us go down to de watermelon patch +and plug dem melons, den us run hide in de woods and eat watermelon. +Course, dey lots of time dey 'low us to play jis' by ourselves. Us play +one game where us choose sides and den sing: + +"'Can, can, candio, + Old man Dandio, + How many men you got? + More'n you're able to cotch.' + +"Endurin' de war us git whip many a time for playin' with shells what us +find in de woods. Us heered de cannons shootin' in Lexington and lots of +dem shells drap in de woods. + +"What did I think when I seed all dem sojers? I wants to be one, too. I +didn't care what side, I jis' wants a gun and a hoss and be a sojer. +John Morgan, he used to own de hemp factory in Lexington. When young +massa jine Woolford's 11th Kentucky Cavalry, dey come to de place and +halt befo' de big house in de turnpike. Dey have shotguns and blind +bridles on dere hosses, not open bridle like on de race hosses. Dey jis' +in reg'lar clothes but next time dey come through dey in blue uniforms. +All my white folks come back from de war and didn't git kilt. Nobody +ever telt me I's free. I's happy dere and never left dem till 1872. All +de others gone befo' dat, but I gits all I wants and I didn't need no +money. I didn't know what paper money was and one time massa's son give +me a paper dime to git some squab and I didn't know what money was and I +burned it up. + +"Dey's jis' one thing I like to do most and dat's eat. Dey allus had +plenty of everything and dey had a big, wooden tray, or trough and dey +put potlicker and cornbread in dat trough and set it under de big locust +tree and all us li'l niggers jis' set 'round and eat and eat. Jis' eat +all us wants. Den when us git full us fall over and go to sleep. Us jis' +git fat and lazy. When us see dat bowl comin', dat bowl call us jis' +like hawgs runnin' to de trough. + +"Dey was great on gingerbread and us go for dat. Dey couldn't leave it +in de kitchen or de pantry so old missus git a big tin box and hide de +gingerbread under her bed and kept de switch on us to keep us 'way from +it. But sometime us sneak up in de bedroom and git some, even den. + +"When I 'bout 17 I left Kentucky and goes to Indiana and white folks +sends me to school to larn readin' and writin', but I got tired of dat +and run off and jine de army. Dat in 1876 and dey sends me to Arizona. +After dat I's at Fort Sill in what used to be Indian Territory and den +at Fort Clark and Fort Davis, dat in Garfield's 'ministration, den in +Fort Quitman on de Rio Grande. I's in skirmishes with de Indians on +Devil's River and in de Brazos Canyon, and in de Rattlesnake Range and +in de Guadalupe Mountains. De troops was de Eighth Cavalry and de Tenth +Infantry. De white and de cullud folks was altogether and I have three +hosses in de cavalry. De fust one plays out, de next one shot down on +campaign and one was condemn. On dat campaign us have de White Mountain +'paches with us for scouts. + +"When I git discharge' from de Army I come to Texas and work on de S.P. +Railroad and I been in Texas ever since, and when I's in Dallas I got +'flicted and got de pension 'cause I been in de army. I ain't done much +work in ten year. + +"I gits married in San Antonio on December 14, 1882 and I marries Dolly +Gross and dat her right dere. Us have de nice weddin', plenty to eat and +drink. Us have only one chile, a gal, and she dead, but us 'dopt sev'ral +chillen. + +"Us come to Beaumont in 1903 and I works 'round Spindletop and I works +for de gas people and de waterworks people. I's been a carpenter and +done lots of common work wherever I could find it. + +"It's been long time since slavery and I's old, but me and my old lady's +in good health and us manage to git 'long fairly well. Dat's 'bout all I +can 'member 'bout de old times. + + + + +420236 + + +[Illustration: Martha Spence Bunton] + + + MARTHA SPENCE BUNTON, 81, was born a slave, Jan. 1, 1856, on the + John Bell plantation, in Murphfreesboro, Tennessee. Mr. Bell sold + Martha, her mother and four sisters to Joseph Spence, who brought + them to Texas. Martha married Andy Bunton in 1880, and they had + nine children. Martha now lives with her sister, Susan, on twelve + acres of land which their father bought for $25.00 an acre. The + farm is picturesquely located on a thickly wooded hill about six + miles east of Austin, Texas. + + +"I was born on New Year's Day. Yes, suh, in 1856, on Massa Bell's +plantation over in Tennessee. De name of de town was Murphreesboro, and +my mammy and my four sisters and me all 'longed to Massa John Bell, but +he done sold us to Massa Joseph Spence, and dat how I come by my name. + +"I 'members how Massa Spence brung us to Texas in wagons, and the way we +knowed when we hit Texas am 'cause massa 'gin to talk 'bout a norther. +When dat norther done strike, all de weeds and leaves jus' starts +rollin'. Us poor, ig'rant niggers thunk at first dey was rabbits, 'cause +we'd never seed a rabbit den. Massa Spence rid his hoss and Missie +Spence come 'long in de richer way, in a coach. De chillen walked +mornin's and de older folks walked afternoons. + +"Massa Spence come to Montopolis, right nigh to Austin, and settled +down. I helped carry dinner pails to de field workers, and dey was full +of meat and cabbage and biscuit. Pappy wasn't dere then, 'cause he was +own by Massa Burrows, over in Tennessee. But when his massa died, my +massa bought pappy and he come out to Texas. Befo' I's a sizeable child, +mammy took sick with diphtheria and died and pappy had to be mammy and +pappy to us. Pappy was a big-bodied man and on Sunday mornin' he'd git +out of bed and make a big fire and say, 'Jiminy cripes! You chillen stay +in you beds and I'll make de biscuits.' He would, too. I laughs when I +thinks 'bout dem big, rye biscuits, what was so big we called dem +'Nigger heels.' Dey sho' was big biscuits, but dey was good. We never +did git no butter, though, and sometimes we'd ask the white chillen to +give us a piece of biscuit with butter on it. We got plenty other +eats--sliced meat and roastin' ears and sweet milk. + +"After freedom pappy sent us to school to de white teacher, and dat's +why I can read and write. I went to de sixth grade and quit. Pappy was +drinkin' a lot then. He'd take alcohol and mix it with 'lasses and +water. But he was good to us. Sometimes a Texas norther come up and we'd +be on the way home and we'd see something comin' what look like a +elephant and it was pappy, with a bundle of coats. + +"I was twenty-four years old when I married Andy Bunton and he jes' +rented farms here and yonder. We had a big weddin' and pork and turkey +and cake. Aunt Lucy Hubbard, what weighed three hundred pounds, done de +cookin' dat day. We had such a good time nobody knowed when one de +guests stole a whole turkey. + +"I was mother of nine chillen and three of dem is livin' now. Andy made +a purty good livin till he had a paral'sis stroke. Poor old feller! In +de end, I took care of him and had to work like I was young again. I cut +wood and carried water and washed and cooked. I had to feed him. + +"I owns my place here. It am twelve acres and pappy bought it long ago +for $25.00 de acre. My sister lives here too, and my son, Howard, comes +home sometimes, but he's got eight houn' dogs he can't feed. I sho' +can't feed dem on dat $11.00 pension what I gits. + + + + +420080 + + +[Illustration: Ellen Butler] + + + ELLEN BUTLER was born a slave to Richmond Butler, near Whiska + Chitto, in the northern part of Calcasieu Parish (now a part of + Beauregard Parish), in Louisiana. Ellen is about 78 years old. She + now lives in Beaumont, Texas. + + +"My old massa was name Richmond Butler and he used to have a big +plantation over on Whiska Chitto, in Louisiana, and that's where I was +born. They used to call the place Bagdad. I was his slave till I six +year old and then freedom come. + +"I don't 'member my daddy, but my mammy was name Dicey Ann Butler. I +have seven sister and three brudder, and they was Anderson and Charlie +and Willie, and the girls was Laura and Rosa and Rachel and Fannie and +Adeline and Sottie and Nora. + +"Us used to live in a li'l log house with one room. The floor was dirt +and the house was make jus' like they used to make 'tater house. They +was a little window in the back. When I was a baby they wrop me up in +cotton and put me in a coffee pot--that how li'l I was. But I grows to +be more sizable. + +"The plantation were a good, big place and they have 'bout 200 head of +niggers. When I gets big enough they start me to totin' water to the +field. I gits the water out the spring and totes it in gourds. They cut +the gourds so that a strip was left round and cross the top and that the +handle. They was about a foot 'cross and a foot deep. Us used to have +one good gourd us kep' lard in and li'l gourds to drink out of. + +"Massa never 'lowed us slaves go to church but they have big holes in +the fields they gits down in and prays. They done that way 'cause the +white folks didn't want them to pray. They used to pray for freedom. + +"When the white folks go off they writes on the meal and flour with they +fingers. That the way they know if us steal meal. Sometime they take a +stick and write in front of the door so if anybody go out they step on +that writin' and the massa know. That the way us larn how to write. + +"Old massa didn't give 'em much to eat. When they comes in out of the +field they goes work for other folks for something to eat. + +"They jus' have a old frame with planks to sleep on and no mattress or +nothin'. In winter they have to keep the fire goin' all night to keep +from freezin'. They put a old quilt down on the floor for the li'l +folks. They have a li'l trough us used to eat out of with a li'l wooden +paddle. Us didn't know nothin' 'bout knives and forks. + +"I never did git nothin' much to eat. My sister she de cook and sometime +when the white folks gone us go up to the big house and she give us +somethin'. But she make us wash the mouth after us finish eatin', so +they won't be no crumbs in our mouth. + +"Massa used to beat 'em all the time. My brudder tell old massa sometime +he git hongry and gwine have to come ask de niggers for somethin' to +eat. He say he never do that, but he did, 'cause after freedom he go to +West Texas and some niggers with him and he los' everything and, sho' +'nough, old massa have to go to my brudder and ask him for food and a +shelter to sleep under. Then he say if he had it to do over, he +wouldn't treat the hands so bad. + +"One time my brudder slip off de plantation and they almost beat him to +death. He told 'em he had to do somethin' to git somethin' to eat. They +used to put 'em 'cross a log or barrel to beat 'em. My mammy had a strop +'bout eight inch wide they used to beat 'em with. + +"Most clothes what we git is from the Iles, what was rich folks and +lives close by. They folks lives in DeRidder, in Louisiana, I hears. +They treated the slaves like white folks. + +"On Christmas time they give us a meal. I 'member that. I don't 'member +no other holidays. + +"When us git sick us go to the woods and git herbs and roots and make +tea and medicine. We used to git Blackhaw root and cherry bark and +dogwood and chinquapin bark, what make good tonic. Black snakeroot and +swamproot make good medicine, too. + +"My mammy told us we was free and we starts right off and walks to +Sugartown, 'bout 8 mile away. I 'member my brudder wades 'cross a pool +totin' me. + +"I used to nuss Dr. Frasier. He used to be the high sheriff in +DeRidder. + + + + +420182 + + + HENRY H. BUTTLER, 87, venerable graduate of Washburn College, + Topeka, Kansas, and ex-school teacher, was born a slave to Mr. + George Sullivan on his 300 acre plantation in Farquier Co., + Virginia. Henry and a number of other slaves were transported to + Arkansas in 1863, and Henry escaped and joined the Union Army. He + now lives at 1308 E. Bessie St., Fort Worth, Texas. + + +"My name is Henry H. Buttler and I am past 87 years of age. That figure +may not be accurate, but you must realize that there were no authentic +records made of slave births. I estimate my age on the work I was doing +at the commencement of the Civil War and the fact that I was large +enough to be accepted as a soldier in the Union Army, in the year of +1864. + +"I was born on the plantation of George Sullivan, in Farquier Co., +Virginia. The plantation was situated in the valley at the base of Bull +Mountain, and presented a beautiful picture. The plantation consisted of +about 30 acres, with about 30 slaves, though this number varied and +sometimes reached 50. Mr. Sullivan owned my mother and her children, but +my father was owned by Mr. John Rector, whose place was adjacent to +ours. + +"The slave quarters consisted of a group of one-room log cabins, with no +flooring, and very crude furnishings. There were bunks and benches and a +table and the fireplace provided the means for cooking and heating. + +"The food was wholesome and of sufficient quantity. In that period about +all the food was produced and processed on the plantation, which +eliminated any reason for failure to provide ample food. The meat was +home cured and the ham and bacon had a superior flavor. + +"On the Sullivan place there existed consideration for human feelings +but on the Rector place neither the master nor the overseer seemed to +understand that slaves were human beings. One old slave called Jim, on +the Rector place, disobeyed some rule and early one morning they ordered +him to strip. They tied him to the whipping post and from morning until +noon, at intervals, the lash was applied to his back. I, myself, saw and +heard many of the lashes and his cries for mercy. + +"One morning a number of slaves were ordered to lay a fence row on the +Rector place. The overseer said, 'This row must be laid to the Branch +and left in time to roll those logs out in the back woods.' It was +sundown when we laid the last rail but the overseer put us to rolling +logs without any supper and it was eleven when we completed the task. +Old Pete, the ox driver, became so exhausted that he fell asleep without +unyoking the oxen. For that, he was given 100 lashes. + +"The slaves were allowed to marry but were compelled to first obtain +permission from the master. The main factor involved in securing the +master's consent was his desire to rear negroes with perfect physiques. +On neither plantation was there any thought or compassion when a sale or +trade was in question. I have seen the separation of husband and wife, +child and mother, and the extreme grief of those involved, and the lash +administered to a grieving slave for neglecting their work. All this +made the marriages a farce. + +"In 1863 Mr. Sullivan transported about 40 of us slaves to Arkansas, +locating us on a farm near Pine Bluff, so we would not be taken by the +Federal soldiers. The general faithfulness of the slave was noticeable +then, as they had a chance to desert and go to free states. But I think +I was the only one who deserted Mr. Sullivan. I went to Federal +Headquarters at Fort Smith, Arkansas, and was received into the army. We +campaigned in Arkansas and nearby territory. The major battle I fought +in was that of Pine Bluff, which lasted one day and part of one night. + +"After I was mustered out of the army, I set out to get an education and +entered a grade school at Pine Bluff. I worked after school at any job I +could secure and managed to enter Washburn College, in Topeka, Kansas. +After I graduated I followed steam engineering for four years, but later +I went to Fort Worth and spent 22 years in educational work among my +people. I exerted my best efforts to advance my race. + +"I married Lucia Brown in 1880 and we had three children, all of whom +are dead. There is just my wife and me left of the family, and we have a +$75.00 per month Union soldier's pension. + + + + +420283 + + + WILLIAM BYRD, 97, was born a slave of Sam Byrd, near Madisonville, + Texas. William was with his master during the Civil War. The old + Negro is very feeble, but enjoyed talking about old times. He lives + in Madisonville. + + +"I has a bill of sale what say I's born in 1840, so I knows I's +ninety-seven years old, and I's owned by Marse Sam Byrd. My mother's +name was Fannie and I dunno pappy's name, 'cause my mother allus say she +found me a stray in the woods. I allus 'lieves my master was my pappy, +but I never did know for sho'. + +"Our quarters was log and the bed built with poles stuck in the cracks +and cowhide stretched over, and we'd gather moss 'bout once a month and +make it soft. When it was real cold we'd git close together and I don't +care how cold it got, we'd sleep jes' as warm as these here feather +beds. + +"I split rails and chopped cotton and plowed with a wooden plow and druv +Marse Byrd lots, 'cause he was a trader, slave trade most the time. He +was good to us and give us lots to eat. He had a big garden and plenty +sugar cane, and brown sugar. We'd press the juice out the cane 'tween +two logs and cook it in the big washpot. + +"We had sheepskin clothes in cold weather, with the fur part inside, no +shoes less'n we wropped our feet in fur hides. But them clothes was +warmer than these here cotton overalls. They're plumb cold! + +Marse Sam was full of life and Missus Josie was real good. They had a +nice home of that day, made out split logs and four rooms and a hall two +ways through it. + +"That great iron piece hung jes' outside the door and Marse Sam hit it +at 3:30 every mornin'. If we didn't muster out he come round with that +cat-o-nine-tails and let us have it, and we knowed what that bell was +for nex' mornin'. Sometimes when Marse Sam was gone, we'd have a +overseer. He'd let us go swimmin' in the creek when the work was done. + +"If a nigger was mean Marse Sam give him fifty licks over a log the +first time and seventy-five licks the second time and 'bout that time he +most gen'rally had a good nigger. If they was real mean and he couldn't +do nothin' with 'em, he put them in the jail with a chain on the feets +for three days, and fed 'em through a crack in the wall. + +"On Christmas Marse Sam had a great big eggnog and kilt a big beef and +had fireworks, and the nigger, he know Christmas was come. We had plenty +to eat and eggnog and did 'bout what we pleased that day and New Year's. +The white folks allus said what we'd do on them days we'd do all year. +That's all foolishment, but some still believes in it. + +"They give a big dance and all night supper when war started. Then Marse +Sam, he carries me for waterboy and cook and to tend his hosses. He had +two, and rid one this day and the other nex' day. He was 'fraid one git +kilt and then he wouldn't be slam a-foot. + +"When them big guns went to poppin', I jes' couldn't stand it without +gittin' in a brush top. Then marse goes and gits shot and I has to be +his nuss. But, Lawd-a-me, one them Yankee gals, she falls in love with +marse whilst he lays nearly dead, and she say, 'William, he's mine, so +you got to take good care of him.' And him with a plumb good wife back +home! + +"When Marse Sam git well, he say he's goin' to 'nother place to fight. +He was with General Lee when that old war was over and that there Yankee +General Grant takes General Lee prisoner, and Marse Sam won't leave his +general, and he say to me, 'William, you got to go home alone.' + +"I lights out a-foot to Texas and it's most a year befo' I gits home. I +travels day and night at first. I buys some things to eat but every time +I goes by a farmhouse I steals a chicken. Sometimes I sho' gits hongry. +When I git to the house, Missus Josie faints, 'cause she thunk Marse Sam +ain't with me and he mus' be dead. I tells her he's in prison and she +say she'll give me $2.00 a month to stay till he gits back. I's plumb +crazy 'bout a little gal called 'Cricket,' 'cause she so pert and full +of live, so I stays. We gits us a cabin and that's all to our weddin'. +We stays a year befo' Marse Sam comes back. + +"He was the plumb awfulest sight you ever done seed! His clothes is tore +offen his body and he ain't shaved in three months and he's mos' starved +to death. Missus Josie she don't even rec'nize him and wouldn't 'low him +in till I tells her dat am Marse Sam, all right. He stays sick a whole +year. + +"I thinks if them Yankees didn't 'tend to fix some way for us pore +niggers, dey oughtn't turn us a-loose. Iffen de white folks in de South +hadn't been jes' what they is, us niggers been lots worser off than we +was. In slavery time when the nigger am sick, his master pay de bills, +but when nigger sick now, that's his own lookout. + +"I never done nothin' but farm and odd jobs. I been married five times, +but only my las' wife am livin' now. My four boys and two gals is all +farmin' right here in the county and they helps us out. We gits by +somehow. + + + + +420277 + + + LOUIS CAIN, 88, was born in North Carolina, a slave of Samuel Cain. + After Louis was freed, he came to Texas, and has farmed near + Madisonville over sixty years. + + +"I knows I's birthed in 1849, 'cause I had a bill of sale. It say that. +My master traded me to Massa Joe Cutt for a hundred acres of land. +That's in 1861, and I 'members it well. My daddy was Sam Cain, name +after old Massa Cain, and mammy was Josie Jones, 'cause she owned by +'nother master. Mammy was birthed in North Carolina, but daddy allus say +he come from Africy. He say they didn't work hard over there, 'cause all +they et come out the jungle, and they had all the wives they wanted. +That was the 'ligion over there. + +"Our quarters was made of logs, in a long shed six rooms long, like +cowsheds or chicken houses, and one door to each room. The bed was a +hole dug in a corner and poles around and shucks and straw. We'd sleep +warm all night long, but it wouldn't do in this country in summertime. + +"Massa give us plenty to eat. Our cornbread was what you calls water +pone bread and cooked in the ashes. We didn't have no stove. Massa was a +great hunter and allus had venison and game. They was plenty fish, too. + +"Massa Cain was purty good to his slaves and mean to them if they didn't +behave. Missy was a good woman. They lived in a two-story rock house +with plenty trees all 'round. + +"We worked long as we could see, from four o'clock in the mornin', and +them milked twenty cows and fed the work stock. They was fifty acres and +not 'nough niggers to work it easy. + +"If some niggers was mean they'd git it. Massa tied they hands to they +feet and tied them to a tree and hit 'bout twenty-five or fifty licks +with a rawhide belt. Hide and blood flew then. Next mornin' he'd turn +them loose and they'd have to work all day without nothin' to eat. He +had a cabin called jail for the nigger women, and chain them in with +cornbread and one glass of water. + +"One nigger run to the woods to be a jungle nigger, but massa cotched +him with the dogs and took a hot iron and brands him. Then he put a bell +on him, in a wooden frame what slip over the shoulders and under the +arms. He made that nigger wear the bell a year and took it off on +Christmas for a present to him. It sho' did make a good nigger out of +him. + +"In the summer time they had camp meetin' and baptized in the creek, +white folks first while the old nigger mammies shouts, and then the +niggers. + +"On Saturday mornin' us men grated corn for bread the next week and the +women washed massa's clothes and our'n. On Saturday night we'd have a +dance all night long, and Sunday the men went to see they wives or +sweethearts and us young'uns went swimmin' in the creek. Every night but +Saturday we had to go to bed at nine o'clock. Massa hit the big steel +piece and we knowed it was time to put out the torches and pile in. + +"On Christmas I'd stand by the gate, to open it for the company, and +they'd throw nuts and candy to me. That night all the slaves what could +brung they banjoes and fiddles and played for the white folks to dance +all night. Them great old days are done gone. Most the men be full that +good, old eggnog. + +"After war come they ain't no more dances and fun, and not much to eat +or nothin'. Massa git kilt in a big battle and missy took four slaves +and brung him home and buried him under a big shade tree in the yard. +That the saddes' time I ever seen, nobody there to do anythin' but missy +and neighbor women and some real young niggers like me. She was cryin' +and all us slaves takin' on. It's a wonder we ever did git massa buried. +We carried him on our backs to the grave. + +"After that we had to carry missy to the mountains and hide her, 'cause +everything, house and sheds and all, was burnt, and all her stock kilt +by sojers and outlaws. When she come out of hidin' she didn't have a +thing, not even a bed. + +"But she was a brave woman, and said, 'Louis, we'll fix some kind of +quarters for you.' She went to work to rebuild the place. She said, 'You +niggers is free, but I need you and I'll pay you $2.00 a month.' She +did, too. She cut some logs and builded her one room and then we all +build us a room and that was the best we could do. I 'lieve the Lawd +blessed that woman. After freedom, that's how I lived the first year, +and she paid me every cent she promised. I stayed with her three years. + +"Then I heared of a railroad job in Texas, and married Josie Sewel in a +big weddin' and we had a great time. I gits a job on that railroad for +fifty cents a day and it never lasted more'n a year, so I goes to +farmin'. + +"We had fourteen chillun, four dead now, and the rest farmin' all over +Texas. I has more'n a hundred grandchillun. Josie, she done die twenty +years ago. + +"I don't know as I 'spected massa's land to be 'vided and give us, but +they was plenty of land for everybody, and missy allus treated us right. +Wages was terrible small for a long time after I married and sometimes +they wouldn't pay us, and we had to beg or steal. I's went a whole two +days without nothin' to eat. If it hadn't been for them there Klu Klux, +sometimes the niggers would have went on the warpath for starvin'. But +the Klu Kluxers wouldn't let 'em roam none, if they tried they stretch +them out over a log and hit them with rawhide, but never say a word. +That was got the niggers--they was so silent, not a sound out of them, +and the nigger he can't stand that. + +"I gits a pension and works when I can and gits by. Some the young +niggers is purty sorry, they's had so much and don't 'preciate none of +it. I's glad for what I can git, 'cause I 'members them old times after +the war when it was worse'n now. + + + + +420178 + + + JEFF CALHOUN, about 98, was born a slave of the Calhoun family, in + Alton, Alabama. After his master died, a son-in-law, Jim Robinson, + brought Jeff and 200 other slaves to Austin, Texas. Jeff was 22 + when the Civil War began. He stayed with his old master, who had + moved to Stewart Mills Texas, after he was freed, and raised 23 + children. He says, "I 'spect I has near a thous- children, + grandchildren and great grandchildren." He makes his home among + them, drifting over five states when and as he wishes. + + +"My name am Jeff Calhoun and I was born in Alton, in Alabama, about +1838, 'cause I's told by my massa. Dat makes me 'bout 98 year old now. +My father was Henry Robinson and my mammy, she Mary Robinson. She was +born in Maryland, in Virginia, but didn't know much 'bout her folks, +'cause she was sold off young. Dere was four of us brothers and ten +sisters, but dey all dead now but me. + +"We makes our beds out of forked saplings drove in the ground, 'cause de +floors was dirt. We sets de pole in dat ground and it run to de top of +de cabin and we makes one bed down low and one bed above. De big folks +sleeps in de low beds and de chillun above, 'cause dey can climb. + +"My massa had 15 chillun and my mamma suckled every one of dem, 'cause +his wife was no good to give milk. + +"We allus had lots to eat, but for meat we has to go to de woods and git +deer and turkey and buffalo and some bear. I have eat hoss and skunk and +crow and hawk. + +"We has a big fire to cook on, and to make de corn cakes we put one leaf +down and put batter on dat and put another leaf over it and cover with +hot ashes and by noon it was done. Same thing for supper. We never have +biscuits 'cept on Sunday or Christmas. + +"My mama was de spinner so I has plenty shirts and some britches, and we +raises indigo on de place and makes dye of it. We never wore no shoes in +de summer and some winters neither. We has a good pair of pants and +shirt we wears Sundays and holidays and was married in. + +"De way dey done at weddings dem days, you picks out a girl and tell +your boss. If she was from another plantation you had to git her bosses +'mission and den dey tells you to come up dat night and git hitched up. +They says to de girl, 'You's love dis man?' Dey says to de man, 'You +loves dis girl?' If you say you don't know, it's all off, but if you say +yes, dey brings in de broom and holds it 'bout a foot off de floor and +say to you to jump over. Den he says you's married. If either of you +stumps you toe on de broom, dat mean you got trouble comin' 'tween you, +so you sho' jumps high. + +"My massa was good to us. He lived in a log house with a floor and was +all fixed up with pretty furniture and mirrors and silver on de table. +De missus was little and frail, but she was good to us and so was de +massa. He wasn't no hand to whip like some of he neighbors. Dey would +tied de slaves' hands to a pole and whip de blood out of them. Dey was +whipped for runnin' away. + +"I knowed a slave call Ben Bradley and he was sold on de auction block +and his massa chained him hand and foot and started for Texas. Dey got +to de Red River and was crossin' and de chains helt him down and he +never came up. And I have a uncle what run off and dey took a pack of +hounds--a pack were twelve--and dey got on his trail and I heared dem +runnin' him. Dey run him three days and nights and took a gun loaded +with buck shot but was sposed not to shoot above de legs. Dey come back +and said he got away, but some boys was out huntin' and finds him and he +been shot four times with buck shot. + +"De only time we got to rest was Sunday and de fourth of July and +Christmas, and one day Thanksgiving. We got de big dinners on holidays. +After supper was have corn shuckings, or on rainy days, and sometimes we +shucks 500 bushels. We allus picked de cotton in big baskets, and when +we gits it all picked we spreads on big and has a celebration. + +"I was in Texas when de war broke out and I hauls corn lots of times to +de gin where was de soldier camp, and I helped cook awhile and would +have been in de battle of Vicksburg only dey takes another man 'stead of +me and he gits kilt. I's glad I's a sorry cook, or I'd got kilt 'stead +of him. + + + + +420262 + + +[Illustration: Simp Campbell] + + + SIMP CAMPBELL was born January 1860, in Harrison County, Texas, He + belonged to W.L. Sloan and stayed with him until 1883, when Simp + married and moved to Marshall. He and his wife live in Gregg + Addition, Marshall, Texas, and Simp works as porter for a loan + company. + + +"My name is Simpson Campbell, but everybody, white and black, calls me +Simp. I's born right here in Harrison County, on Bill Sloan's place, +nine miles northwest of Marshall. I got in on the last five years of +slavery. + +"Pappy was Lewis Campbell, and he was sold by the Florida Campbells to +Marse Sloan and fotched to Texas, but he allus kep' the Campbell name. +Mammy was Mariah and the Sloans brung her out of South Carolina. She +raised a passel of chillen. Besides me there was Flint, Albert and +Clinton of the boys, and--let me count--Dinah, Clandy, Mary, Lula, Liza, +Hannah, Matilda and Millie of the girls. + +"The Sloans lived in a big house, but it wasn't no shanty. They was +fixed 'bout as good as anybody in the county and driv as good hosses and +rigs as anybody. They wasn't a mean streak in the whole Sloan family. + +"The slave quarters sot in rows right down in the field from the big +house. They had beds made to the wall, and all the cookin' was on the +fireplace. We raised all our meat and corn and garden truck right there +on the place and Marse Sloan brung wheat and other rations from +Shreveport. The nigger women spinned all the cloth and pappy made shoes +by hand, when they kilt a beef. The beef was dried and jetted and hung +in the smokehouse. + +"Marse's place civered a thousand acres and he had over a hunderd +slaves, with a overseer, Johnson, and a nigger driver. Us niggers was +treated well but the overseer had order to whip us for fightin'. If the +nigger driver hit too many licks, the overseer sold him off the place. + +"We worked from four till six and done a task after that, and sot round +and talked till nine and then had to go to bed. On Saturday night you'd +hear them fiddles and banjoes playin' and the niggers singin'. All them +music gadgets was homemade. The banjoes was made of round pieces of +wood, civered with sheepskin and strung with catgut strings. + +"They wasn't no school but Marse Bill larnt some his niggers readin' and +writin' so we could use them bookin' cotton in the field and sich like. +They was a church on the Sloan place and white preachers done most the +'xhorting. Mammy allus say the cullud preachers had to preach what +they's told--obey you master and missus. + +"I seed Yankee sojers and wagons comin' home from Mansfield. Marse Tom +sot us free right after surrender, but my folks stayed on with him till +he died, in 1906. I lef when I's twenty-three and marries and made a +livin' from public work in Marshall all my life. I worked as day laborer +and raised two boys and two girls and the boys is farmin' right here in +the county and doin' well. + +"When I's eighteen they got up a 'mendment to the Constitution and got +out a "People's Party Ticket." It was a Democratic ticket and control by +Southerners. They told us niggers if we'd vote that ticket we'd be +rec'nized as white folks, but I didn't 'lieve a word of it. Old Man +Sloan told all his niggers that and they all voted that ticket but +two--that was Charley Tang and Simp Campbell. + +"I 'lieve the young race of our people is progressin' fine. If they had +priv'lege to use they educations, they'd make more progress, but the +color line holds them back. + + + + +420106 + + +[Illustration: James Cape] + + + JAMES CAPE, centenarian, now living in a dilapidated little shack + in the rear of the stockyards in Fort Worth, Texas, was born a + slave to Mr. Bob Houston, who owned a large ranch in southeast + Texas. James' parents came direct from Africa into slavery. James + spent his youth as a cowboy, fought in the Confederate army, was + wounded and has an ugly shoulder scar. After the war, James + unknowingly took a job with the outlaw, Jesse James, for whom he + worked three years, in Missouri. He then came back to Texas, and + worked in the stockyards until 1928. Documentary proof of James' + age is lacking, but various facts told him by his parents and + others lead him to think he must be over 100 years old. + + +"I's bo'n in yonder southeast Texas and I don' know what month or de +year for sho', but 'twas more dan 100 years ago. My mammy and pappy was +bo'n in Africa, dats what dey's tol' me. Dey was owned by Marster Bob +Houston and him had de ranch down dere, whar dey have cattle and hosses. + +"When I's old 'nough to set on de hoss, dey larned me to ride, tendin' +hosses. 'Cause I's good hoss rider, dey uses me all de time gwine after +hosses. I goes with dem to Mexico. We crosses de river lots of times. I +'members once when we was a drivin' 'bout 200 hosses north'ards. Dey was +a bad hail storm comes into de face of de herd and dat herd turns and +starts de other way. Dere was five of us riders and we had to keep dem +hosses from scatterment. I was de leader and do you know what happens to +dis nigger if my hoss stumbles? Right dere's whar I'd still be! Marster +give me a new saddle for savin' de hosses. + +"One day Marster Bob comes to me and says, 'Jim, how you like to jine de +army?' You see, de war had started. I says to him, 'What does I have to +do?' And he says, 'Tend hosses and ride 'em.' I was young den and +thought it would be lots of fun, so I says I'd go. So de first thing I +knows, I's in de army away off east from here, somewhar dis side of St. +Louis and in Tennessee and Arkansas and other places. I goes in de army +'stead of Dr. Carroll. + +"After I gits in de army, it wasn' so much fun, 'cause tendin' hosses +and ridin' wasn' all I does. No, sar, I has to do shootin' and git +shooted at! One time we stops de train, takes Yankee money and lots of +other things off dat train. Dat was way up de other side of Tennessee. + +"You's heard of de battle of Independence? Dat's whar we fights for +three days and nights. I's not tendin' hosses dat time. Dey gives me a +rifle and sends me up front fightin', when we wasn' running'. We does a +heap of runnin' and dat suits dis nigger. I could do dat better'n +advance. When de order comes to 'treat, I's all ready. + +"I gits shot in de shoulder in dat fight and lots of our soldiers gits +killed and we loses our supply, jus' leaves it and runs. 'Nother time we +fights two days and nights and de Yankees was bad dat time, too, and we +had to run through de river. I sho' thought I's gwine git drowned den. +Dat's de time we tries to git in St. Louis, but de Yankee mans stop us. + +"I's free after de war and goes back to Texas, to Gonzales County, and +gits a job doin' cowboy work for Marster Ross herdin' cattle. And right +dere's whar I's lucky for not gittin' in jail or hanged. It was dis +way: I's in town and dat man, Ross, says to me, 'I unnerstan' you's a +good cowhand,' and he hires me and takes me way out. No house for miles +'fore we comes to de ranch with cattle and I goes to work. After I's +workin' a while, I wonders how come dey brings in sich fine steers so +often and I says to myself, 'Marster Ross mus' have heaps of money for +to buy all dem steers.' Dey pays no 'tention to de raisin' of cattle, +jus' brings 'em in and drives dem 'way. + +"One time Marster Ross and six mens was gone a week and when dey comes +back, one of 'em was missin'. Dey had no steers dat time and dey talks +'bout gittin' frusterated and how one man gits shot. I says to myself, +'What for was dey chased and shot at?' Den I 'members Marster Bob +Houston done tol' me 'bout rustlers and how dey's hanged when dey's +caught, and I knows den dat's how come all dem fine steers is driv in +and out all de time. But how to git 'way, dere's de puzzlement. I not +know which way to go and dere's no houses anywhere near. I keeps gittin' +scarter, and ever' time somebody comes, I thinks its de law. But Marster +Ross drives de cattle north and I says to him, 'I's good hand at de +drive. Kin I go with you nex' time you goes north?' And not long after +dat we starts and we gits to Kansas City. After Marster Ross gets shut +of de critters, he says. 'We'll res' for couple days, den starts back.' +I says to me, 'Not dis nigger.' + +"I sneaks 'way and was settin' on a bench when 'long comes a white man +and he's tall, had dark hair and was fine lookin'. He says to me, 'Is +you a cowhand?' So I tells him I is, and he says he wants a hand on his +farm in Missouri and he says, 'Come with me.' He tells me his name was +James and takes me to his farm whar I tends cattle and hosses for three +years and he pays me well. He gives me more'n I earns. After three years +I leaves, but not 'cause I larned he was outlaw, 'cause I larned dat +long time afterwa'ds. I's lonesome for Texas and dat's how I comes to +Fort Worth and here's whar I's stayed ever' since. + +"I's married 'bout 40 years ago to a woman dat had eight chillens. We +sep'rated 'cause dem chillens cause arg'ments. I can fight one, but not +de army. + + + + +420180 + + + RICHARD CARRUTHERS, 100 year old ex-slave, was born in Memphis, + Tennessee. Mr. Billy Coats bought him and his mother and brought + them to Bastrop Co., Texas. He came to Houston 20 years ago and + lives in a negro settlement known as Acres Home, about 8 miles + northeast of Houston. It is a wooded section, with a clearing here + and there for a Negro shack and plots of ground for growing + "victuals and co'n." + + +"I wants to tell the Gospel truf. My mammy's name was Melia Carruthers +and my papa's name was Max. My papa's papa's name was Carruthers, too. +My brothers names was Charlie and Frank and Willie and John and Tom and +Adam. + +"When I was still little Mr. Billy Coats bought my mama and us and with +about 500 of his slaves we set out to come to Texas. We goes to Bastrop +County and starts to work. My old missy--her name was Missy Myra--was 99 +year old and her head was bald as a egg and had wens on it as big as +eggs, too. + +"In them days the boss men had good houses but the niggers had log +cabins and they burned down oftentimes. The chimney would cotch fire, +'cause it was made out of sticks and clay and moss. Many the time we +have to git up at midnight and push the chimney 'way from the house to +keep the house from burnin' up. + +"The chairs was mostly chunks of cordwood put on end, or slabs, just +rough, and the beds was built like scaffoldin'. We made a sort of +mattress out of corn shucks or moss. + +"My missy, she was good, but the overseer, he rough. His temper born of +the debbil, himse'f. His name was Tom Hill, but us called him 'Debbil +Hill.' + +Old Debbil Hill, he used to whup me and the other niggers if we don't +jump quick enough when he holler and he stake us out like you stake out +a hide and whup till we bleed. Many the time I set down and made a +eight-plait whup, so he could whup from the heels to the back of the +head 'til he figger he get the proper ret'ibution. Sometime he take salt +and rub on the nigger so he smart and burn proper and suffer mis'ry. +They was a caliboose right on the plantation, what look like a +ice-house, and it was sho' bad to git locked up in it. + +"Us got provisions 'lowanced to us every Saturday night. If you had two +in the family, they 'lowanced you one-half gallon 'lasses and 12 to 15 +pounds bacon and a peck of meal. We have to take the meal and parch it +and make coffee out of it. We had our flours. One of them we called +biscuit flour and we called it 'shorts.' We had rye and wheat and buck +grain. + +"If they didn't provision you 'nough, you jus' had to slip 'round and +git a chicken. That easy 'nough, but grabbin' a pig a sho' 'nough +problem. You have to cotch him by the snoot so he won't squeal, and +clomp him tight while you knife him. That ain't stealin', is it? You has +to keep right on workin' in the field, if you ain't 'lowanced 'nough, +and no nigger like to work with his belly groanin'. + +"When the white preacher come he preach and pick up his Bible and claim +he gittin the text right out from the good Book and he preach: 'The Lord +say, don't you niggers steal chickens from your missus. Don't you steal +YOUR MARSTER'S hawgs.' That would be all he preach. + +"Us niggers used to have a prayin' ground down in the hollow and +sometime we come out of the field, between 11 and 12 at night, scorchin' +and burnin' up with nothin' to eat, and we wants to ask the good Lawd to +have mercy. We puts grease in a snuff pan or bottle and make a lamp. We +takes a pine torch, too, and goes down in the hollow to pray. Some gits +so joyous they starts to holler loud and we has to stop up they mouth. I +see niggers git so full of the Lawd and so happy they draps unconscious. + +"I kep' a eye on the niggers down in the cotton patch. Sometime they +lazy 'round and if I see the overseer comin' from the big house I sings +a song to warn 'em, so they not git whupped, and it go like this: + +"'Hold up, hold up, American Spirit! +Hold up, hold up, H-O-O-O-O-O-O-O!' + +"We used to go huntin' and they was lots of game, bears and panthers and +coons. We have bear dawgs, fox dawg and rabbit dawg that mostly jus' go +by the name of houn' dawg. Then they have a dawg to run niggers. + +"I never tried the conjure, but they would take hair and brass nails and +thimbles and needles and mix them up in a conjure bag. But I knows one +thing. They was a old gin between Wilbarger and Colorado and it was +hanted with spirits of kilt niggers. Us used to hear that old mill +hummin' when dark come and we slip up easy, but it stop, then when you +slip away it start up. + +"I 'member when the stars fell. We runs and prays, 'cause we thinks it +jedgment day. It sure dumb old Debbil Hill, them stars was over his +power. + +"On Sundays we put shoes on our feet and they was brass toed. They was +so hard and stiff they go 'tump, tump, tump,' when we walk. That's the +only day we got 'cept Christmas and we jus' got somethin' extry to eat. +All them women sho' knowed how to cook! I often tell my wife how glad I +was one mornin' when my missy give me a hot, butter biscuit. I goes down +and shows it to all the other boys. We didn't git them hot, butter +biscuits in them days. + +"I used to dance the pigeon wing and swing my partners 'round. Was them +womenfolks knock-kneed? You sho' couldn't tell, even when you swung 'em +'round, 'cause they dresses was so long. + +"I's been all 'round the mountain and up on top of it in my day. Durin' +slave time I been so cold I mos' turn white and they sot me 'fore the +fire and poultice me with sliced turnips. Come a norther and it blow +with snow and sleet and I didn't have 'nough clothes to keep me warm. + +"When a nigger marry, he slick up his lowers and put on his brass-toed +shoes, then the preacher marry him out of the Bible. My pappy have a +pass to visit my mammy and if he don't have one, the paddle roller conk +him on the head. My grandma and grandpa come here in a steamboat. The +man come to Africa and say, 'Man and woman, does you want a job?' So +they gits on the boat and then he has the 'vantage. + +"When I was 21 and some more, I don't know jus' how old, I was a free +man. That the day I shouted. We niggers scattered like partridges. I had +a fiddle and I'd play for the white folks wherever I went, when they has +the balls. I marries after 'while, but I don't know what year, 'cause we +never done paid no 'tention to years. My first wife died after a long +time, I think 'bout 34 year and I married another and she died this very +year. Jus' three months later I marries my housekeeper, named Luvena +Dixon, cause I allus lived a upright life and I knowed the Lawd wouldn't +like it if I went on livin' in the same house with Luvena without we was +married. She is 52 year old, and we is happy. + + + + +420216 + + +[Illustration: Cato Carter] + + + CATO CARTER was born in 1836 or 1837, near Pineapple, Wilcox + County, Alabama, a slave of the Carter family. He and his wife live + at 3429 Booth St., Dallas, Texas. + + +"I'm home today 'cause my li'l, old dog is lost and I has to stay 'round +to hunt for him. I been goin' every day on the truck to the cotton +patches. I don't pick no more, 'count my hands git too tired and begin +to cramp on me. But I go and set in the field and watch the lunches for +the other hands. + +"I am a hunerd one years old, 'cause I's twenty-eight, goin' on +twenty-nine, a man growned, when the breakin' up come. I'm purty old, +but my folks live that way. My old, black mammy, Zenie Carter, lived to +be a hunerd twenty-five, and Oll Carter, my white massa--which was the +brother of my daddy--lived to be a hunerd four. He ain't been so long +died. Al Carter, my own daddy, lived to be very ageable, but I don't +know when he died. + +"Back in Alabama, Missie Adeline Carter took me when I was past my +creepin' days to live in the big house with the white folks. I had a +room built on the big house, where I stayed, and they was allus good to +me, 'cause I's one of their blood. They never hit me a lick or slapped +me once, and told me they'd never sell me away from them. They was the +bes' quality white folks and lived in a big, two-story house with a big +hall what run all the way through the house. They wasn't rough as some +white folks on their niggers. + +"My mammy lived in a hewn-oak log cabin in the quarters. There was a +long row of cabins, some bigger than t'others, 'count of fam'ly size. My +massa had over eighty head of slaves. Them li'l, old cabins was cozy, +'cause we chinked 'em with mud and they had stick chimneys daubed with +mud, mixed with hawg-hair. + +"The fixin's was jus' plain things. The beds was draw-beds--wooden +bedsteads helt together with ropes drawed tight, to hold them. We +scalded moss and buried it awhile and stuffed it into tickin' to make +mattresses. Them beds slep' good, better'n the ones nowadays. + +"There was a good fireplace for cookin' and Sundays the Missie give us +niggers a pint of flour and a chicken, for to cook a mess of victuals. +Then there was plenty game to find. Many a time I've kilt seventy-five +or eighty squirrels out of one big beech. There was lots of deer and +bears and quails and every other kind of game, but when they ran the +Indians out of the country, the game jus' followed the Indians. I've +seed the bigges' herds of deer followin' the way the Indians drifted. +Whenever the Indians lef', the game all lef' with them, for some reason +I dunno. + +"Talkin' 'bout victuals, our eatin' was good. Can't say the same for all +places. Some of the plantations half starved their niggers and 'lowanced +out their eatin' till they wasn't fittin' for work. They had to slip +about to niggers on other places to piece out their meals. They had +field calls and other kinds of whoops and hollers, what had a meanin' to +'em. + +"Our place was fifteen hunerd acres in one block, and 'sides the crops +of cotton and corn and rice and ribbon cane we raised in the bottoms, we +had veg'tables and sheep and beef. We dried the beef on scaffolds we +built and I used to tend it. But bes' of anythin' to eat, I liked a big, +fat coon, and I allus liked honey. Some the niggers had li'l garden +patches they tended for themselves. + +"Everythin' I tell you am the truth, but they's plenty I can't tell you. +I heard plenty things from my mammy and grandpappy. He was a fine diver +and used to dive in the Alabama river for things what was wrecked out of +boats, and the white folks would git him to go down for things they +wanted. They'd let him down by a rope to find things on the bottom of +the riverbed. He used to git a piece of money for doin' it. + +"My grandmammy was a juksie, 'cause her mammy was a nigger and her daddy +a Choctaw Indian. That's what makes me so mixed up with Indian and +African and white blood. Sometimes it mattered to me, sometimes it +didn't. It don't no more, 'cause I'm not too far from the end of my +days. + +"I had one brother and one sister I helped raise. They was mostly +nigger. The Carters told me never to worry 'bout them, though, 'cause my +mammy was of their blood and all of us in our fam'ly would never be +sold, and sometime they'd make free man and women of us. My brother and +sister lived with the niggers, though. + +"I was trained for a houseboy and to tend the cows. The bears was so bad +then, a 'sponsible pusson who could carry a gun had to look after them. + +"My massa used to give me a li'l money 'long, to buy what I wanted. I +allus bought fine clothes. In the summer when I was a li'l one, I wore +lowerin's, like the rest of the niggers. That was things made from +cotton sackin'. Most the boys wore shirttails till they was big +yearlin's. When they bought me red russets from the town, I cried and +cried. I didn't want to wear no rawhide shoes. So they took 'em back. +They had a weakness for my cryin'. I did have plenty fine clothes, good +woolen suits they spinned on the place, and doeskins and fine linens. I +druv in the car'age with the white folks and was 'bout the mos' dudish +nigger in them parts. + +"I used to tend the nurslin' thread. The reason they called it that was +when the mammies was confined with babies havin' to suck, they had to +spin. I'd take them the thread and bring it back to the house when it +was spinned. If they didn't spin seven or eight cuts a day, they'd git a +whuppin'. It was consid'ble hard on a woman when she had a frettin' +baby. But every mornin' them babies had to be took to the big house, so +the white folks could see if they's dressed right. They was money tied +up in li'l nigger young'uns. + +"They whupped the women and they whupped the mens. I used to work some +in the tan'ry and we made the whips. They'd tie them down to a stob, and +give 'em the whuppin'. Some niggers, it taken four men to whup 'em, but +they got it. The nigger driver was meaner than the white folks. They'd +better not leave a blade of grass in the rows. I seed 'em beat a nigger +half a day to make him 'fess up to stealin' a sheep or a shoat. Or +they'd whup 'em for runnin' away, but not so hard if they come back of +their own 'cordance when they got hungry and sick in the swamps. But +when they had to run 'em down with the nigger dogs, they'd git in bad +trouble. + +"The Carters never did have any real 'corrigible niggers, but I heard of +'em plenty on other places. When they was real 'corrigible, the white +folks said they was like mad dogs and didn't mind to kill them so much +as killin' a sheep. They'd take 'em to the graveyard and shoot 'em down +and bury 'em face downward, with their shoes on. I never seed it done, +but they made some the niggers go for a lesson to them that they could +git the same. + +"But I didn't even have to carry a pass to leave my own place, like the +other niggers. I had a cap with a sign on it: 'Don't bother this +nigger, or there will be Hell to pay.' I went after the mail, in the +town. It come in coaches and they put on fresh hosses at Pineapple. The +coachman run the hosses into Pineapple with a big to-do and blowin' the +bugle to git the fresh hosses ready. I got the mail. I was a trusty all +my days and never been 'rested by the law to this day. + +"I never had no complaints for my treatment, but some the niggers hated +syrup makin' time, 'cause when they had to work till midnight makin' +syrup, its four o'clock up, jus' the same. Sun-up to sundown was for +fiel' niggers. + +"Corn shuckin' was fun. Them days no corn was put in the cribs with +shucks on it. They shucked it in the fiel' and shocked the fodder. They +did it by sides and all hands out. A beef was kilt and they'd have a +reg'lar picnic feastin'. They was plenty whiskey for the niggers, jus' +like Christmas. + +"Christmas was the big day at the Carter's. Presents for every body, and +the bakin' and preparin' went on for days. The li'l ones and the big +ones were glad, 'specially the nigger mens, 'count of plenty good +whiskey. Mr. Oll Carter got the bes' whiskey for his niggers. + +"We used to have frolics, too. Some niggers had fiddles and played the +reels, and niggers love to dance and sing and eat. + +"Course niggers had their ser'ous side, too. They loved to go to church +and had a li'l log chapel for worship. But I went to the white folks +church. In the chapel some nigger mens preached from the Bible, but +couldn't read a line no more than a sheep could. The Carters didn't mind +their niggers prayin' and singin' hymns, but some places wouldn't 'low +them to worship a-tall, and they had to put their heads in pots to sing +or pray. + +"Mos' the niggers I know, who had their mar'age put in the book, did it +after the breakin' up, plenty after they had growned chillen. When they +got married on the places, mostly they jus' jumped over a broom and +that made 'em married. Sometimes one the white folks read a li'l out of +the Scriptures to 'em and they felt more married. + +"Take me, I was never one for sickness. But the slaves used to git sick. +There was jaundice in them bottoms. First off they'd give some castor +oil, and if that didn't cure they'd give blue mass. Then if he was still +sick they'd git a doctor. + +"They used to cry the niggers off jus' like so much cattle, and we +didn't think no diff'rent of it. I seed them put them on the block and +brag on them somethin' big. Everybody liked to hear them cry off +niggers. The cryer was a clown and made funny talk and kep' everybody +laughin'. + +"When massa and the other mens on the place went off to war, he called +me and said, 'Cato, you's allus been a 'sponsible man, and I leave you +to look after the women and the place. If I don't come back, I want you +to allus stay by Missie Adeline! I said, 'Fore Gawd, I will, Massa Oll.' +He said, 'Then I can go away peaceable.' + +"We thought for a long time the sojers had the Fed'rals whupped to +pieces, but there was plenty bad times to go through. I carried a gun +and guarded the place at nighttime. The paddyrollers was bad. I cotched +one and took him to the house more'n once. They wore black caps and put +black rags over their faces and was allus skullduggerying 'round at +night. We didn't use torches any more when we went 'round at night, +'cause we was afeared. We put out all the fires 'round the house at +nighttime. + +"The young mens in grey uniforms used to pass so gay and singin', in the +big road. Their clothes was good and we used to feed them the best we +had on the place. Missie Adeline would say, 'Cato, they is our boys and +give them the best this place 'fords.' We taken out the hams and the +wine and kilt chickens for them. That was at first. + +"Then the boys and mens in blue got to comin' that way, and they was +fine lookin' men, too. Missie Adeline would cry and say, 'Cato, they is +just mens and boys and we got to feed them, too.' We had a pavilion +built in the yard, like they had at picnics, and we fed the Fed'rals in +that. Missie Adeline set in to cryin' and says to the Yankees, 'Don't +take Cato. He is the only nigger man I got by me now. If you take Cato, +I just don't know what I'll do.' I tells them sojers I got to stay by +Missie Adeline so long as I live. The Yankee mens say to her, 'Don't +'sturb youself, we ain't gwine to take Cato or harm nothin' of yours.' +The reason they's all right by us, was 'cause we prepared for them, but +with some folks they was rough somethin' ter'ble. They taken off their +hosses and corn. + +"I seed the trees bend low and shake all over and heard the roar and +poppin' of cannon balls. There was springs not too far from our place +and the sojers used to camp there and build a fire and cook a mule, +'cause they'd got down to starvation. When some of the guerillas seed +the fire they'd aim to it, and many a time they spoiled that dinner for +them sojers. The Yankees did it and our boys did it, too. There was +killin' goin' on so ter'ble, like people was dogs. + +"Massa Oll come back and he was all wore out and ragged. He soon called +all the niggers to the front yard and says, 'Mens and womens, you are +today as free as I am. You are free to do as you like, 'cause the damned +Yankees done 'creed you are. They ain't a nigger on my place what was +born here or ever lived here who can't stay here and work and eat to the +end of his days, as long as this old place will raise peas and goobers. +Go if you wants, and stay if you wants.' Some of the niggers stayed and +some went, and some what had run away to the North come back. They allus +called, real humble like, at the back gate to Missie Adeline, and she +allus fixed it up with Massa Oll they could have a place. + +"Near the close of the war I seed some folks leavin' for Texas. They +said if the Fed'rals won the war they'd have to live in Texas to keep +slaves. So plenty started driftin' their slaves to the west. They'd pass +with the womens ridin' in the wagons and the mens on foot. Some took +slaves to Texas after the Fed'rals done 'creed the breakin' up. + +"Long as I lived I minded what my white folks told me, 'cept one time. +They was a nigger workin' in the fiel' and he kept jerkin' the mules and +Massa Oll got mad, and he give me a gun and said, 'Go out there and kill +that man.' I said, 'Massa Oll, please don't tell me that. I ain't never +kilt nobody and I don't want to.' He said, 'Cato, you do what I tell +you.' He meant it. I went out to the nigger and said, 'You has got to +leave this minute, and I is, too, 'cause I is 'spose to kill you, only I +ain't and Massa Oll will kill me.' He drops the hanes and we run and +crawled through the fence and ran away. + +"I hated to go, 'cause things was so bad, and flour sold for $25.00 a +barrel, and pickled pork for $15.00 a barrel. You couldn't buy nothin' +lessen with gold. I had plenty of 'federate money, only it wouldn't buy +nothin'. + +"But today I is a old man and my hands ain't stained with no blood. I is +allus been glad I didn't kill that man. + +"Mules run to a ter'ble price then. A right puny pair of mules sold for +$500.00. But the Yankees give me a mule and I farmed a year for a white +man and watched a herd of mules, too. I stayed with them mules till four +o'clock even Sundays. So many scoundrels was goin' 'bout, stealin' +mules. + +"That year I was boun' out by 'greement with the white man, and I made +$360.00. The bureau come by that year lookin' at nigger's contracts, to +see they didn't git skunt out their rightful wages. Missie Adeline and +Massa Oll didn't stay mad at me and every Sunday they come by to see me, +and brung me li'l del'cate things to eat. + +"The Carters said a hunerd times they regretted they never larned me to +read or write, and they said my daddy done put up $500.00 for me to go +to the New Allison school for cullud folks. Miss Benson, a Yankee, was +the teacher. I was twenty-nine years old and jus' startin' in the +blueback speller. I went to school a while, but one mornin' at ten +o'clock my poor old mammy come by and called me out. She told me she got +put out, 'cause she too old to work in the fiel'. I told her not to +worry, that I'm the family man now, and she didn't never need to git any +more three-quarter hand wages no more. + +"So I left school and turnt my hand to anything I could find for years. +I never had no trouble findin' work, 'cause all the white folks knowed +Cato was a good nigger. I lef' my mammy with some fine white folks and +she raised a whole family of chillen for them. Their name was Bryan and +they lived on a li'l bayou. Them young'uns was crazy 'bout mammy and +they'd send me word not to worry about her, 'cause she'd have the bes' +of care and when she died they'd tend to her buryin'. + +"Finally I come to Texas, 'cause I thought there was money for the +takin' out here. I got a job splittin' rails for two years and from then +on I farmed, mostly. I married a woman and lived with her forty-seven +years, rain or shine. We had thirteen chillen and eight of them is +livin' today. + +"Endurin' the big war I got worried 'bout my li'l black mammy and I +wanted to go back home and see her and the old places. I went, and she +was shriveled up to not much of anything. That's the last time I saw +her. But for forty-four years I didn't forget to send her things I +thought she'd want. I saw Massa Oll and he done married after I left and +raised a family of chillen. I saw Missie Adeline and she was a old +woman. We went out and looked at the tombstones and the rock +markers in the graveyard on the old place, and some of them done near +melted away. I looked good at lots of things, 'cause I knowed I wouldn't +be that way 'gain. So many had gone on since I'd been there befo'. + +"After my first wife died I married 'gain and my wife is a good woman +but she's old and done lost her voice, and has to be in Terrell most the +time. But I git 'long all right, 'cept my hands cramps some. + +"You goin' take my picture? I lived through plenty and I lived a long +time, but this is the first time I ever had my picture took. If I'd +knowed you wanted to do that, I'd have tidied up and put on my best. + + + + +420276 + + + JACK CAUTHERN, 85, was born near Austin, Texas. Dick Townes owned + Jack and his parents. After they were freed, the family stayed on + the plantation, but Jack went to San Angelo, because "times was too + dull in Travis County." + + +"My master was Dick Townes and my folks come with him from Alabama. He +owned a big plantation fifteen miles from Austin and worked +lots of slaves. We had the best master in the whole county, and +everybody called us "Townes' free niggers," he was so good to us, and we +worked hard for him, raisin' cotton and corn and wheat and oats. + +"Most the slaves lived in two-room log cabins with dirt floors, over in +the quarters, but I lived in master's yard. That's where I was born. +There was a tall fence 'tween the yard and the quarters and the other +nigger boys was so jealous of me they wouldn't let me cross that fence +into the quarters. They told me I thinked I was white, jes' for livin' +in master's yard. + +"Me and young master had the good times. He was nigh my age and we'd +steal chickens from Old Miss and go down in the orchard and barbecue +'em. One time she cotched us and sho' wore us out! She'd send us to pick +peas, but few peas we picked! + +"Old Miss was good to her cullud folks. When she'd hear a baby cryin' in +the night she'd put on boots and take her lantern and go see about it. +If we needed a doctor she'd send for old Dr. Rector and when I had the +measles he give me some pills big as the end of my finger. + +"We went to church all the time. Young Miss come over Sunday mornin' and +fotched all us chillen to the house and read the Bible to us. She was +kind of a old maid and that was her pleasure. We had baptisin's, too. +One old cullud man was a preacher. Lawd, Lawd, we had shoutin' at them +camp meetin's! + +"I guess we was glad to be free. Old master done die and Old Miss was +managin' the plantation. She had the whole bunch in the yard and read +the freedom paper. The old slaves knowed what it meant, but us young +ones didn't. She told everybody they could stay and work on shares and +most of 'em did, but some went back to they old homes in Alabama. + +"I stayed a while and married, and came to San Angelo. The reason I +come, times was dull in Travis County and I done hear so much talk 'bout +this town I said I was comin' and see for myself. That was in 1900 and +it was jes' a forest here then. I worked eighteen years in McCloskey's +saloon, and he gave me ten dollars every Christmas 'sides my pay and a +suit every year. I wish he was livin' now. My wife and I was together +fifty-two years and then she died. After a long time I married again, +and my wife is out pickin' cotton now. + +"It seem mighty hard to me now by side of old times, but I don't know if +it was any better in slavery days. It seems mighty hard though, since +I'm old and can't work. + + + + +420154 + + + SALLY BANKS CHAMBERS, wife of Ben Chambers of Liberty, does not + know her age. She was born a slave of Jim Moore, in Oakland, + Louisiana. Sally has been married three times and has had seven + children, about 54 grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren. Heavy + gold earrings hang from her ears and she dresses, even in + midsummer, in a long-sleeved calico shirt, heavy socks and shoes, + and a sweeping skirt many yards wide. + + +"Befo' I marry de first time my name am Sally Banks, and I's borned in +de old states, over in Louisiana, round Oakland. I ain't 'member nothin' +'bout dat place, 'cause I's so small when dey brung me to Texas. + +"Old massa name Jim Moore. He a fair old gen'man, with a big bald place +on he head, and he am good to de slaves. Not even as stric' as old +missus, what was de big, stout woman. She am terrible stric', but she +whip de li'l white chillen too, so dey be good. + +"My daddy name John Moore and mama name Car'line, and dey borned in +Louisiana. My grandpa was Lewis Moore and grandma name Polly, but dey +wasn't reg'lar Africy people. My grandma, she have right smart good +blood in her. + +"When old massa come to Texas he brung us over first by wagon, a mule +wagon with a cover over de top, and he rent de house clost to Liberty. +But de nex' year he find a place on de river bottom near Grand Cane and +it jes' suit him for de slaves he have, so he brung all de rest over +from Louisiana. + +"My mama have four chillen when us come to Texas, but she have eleven +more after freedom. When war broke out she have six, but she multiply +after dat. She de milker and washwoman and spinner, and make de good, +strong clothes. + +"Dey have li'l separate houses make outten logs for us slaves. De white +folks house was one dese big, old double-pen house, with de hall down de +middle. Dey have right nice things in it. + +"De white folks 'lowance out de food every Saturday night and dat spose +last de week. All de cullud folks cook for deyself 'cept'n de single +mens, and dey eats up in de big kitchen. Us have syrup and cornbread and +lots of sweet 'taters and homecure' meat what dey salt down and hang in +de smokehouse. + +"De old missus, she ain't 'low no dancin' or huzzawin' round dat place, +'cause she Christian. Dey 'low us Saturday and Sunday off, and de women +do dey own washin den'. De menfolks tend to de gardens round dey own +house. Dey raise some cotton and sell it to massa and git li'l money dat +way. Us don't never have no presents, but dey give eatments mostly. + +"De young massas both go to war. Dey John Calhoun Moore and William. De +oldes' goes crazy, kind of shellshock like. As far as I knowed, he ain't +never git no more better. Young William and de old man comes back +without no scratch, but dey ain't serve long. All dey three 'lists by +deyselfs, 'cause dey didn't have no truck with dem conscrip'ers. One my +uncles, Levy Moore, he go to war to wait on de massas, and he struck +with de fever at Sabine Pass and die right dere. + +"After freedom riz up, old massa come home. Den he call all de growed +folks and tell dem dey's free. A heap left, dey jes' broke ranks and +left. My daddy and mama both stay. Dey de fav'rites. Old missus make +present to my mama of a heap of things she need. But de white folks was +jus' rentin' and when dey have no slaves no more dey give it up and move +to Tarkington Prairie. Us lost track of dem and ain't never seed dem no +more. + +"My daddy come back to Liberty den and work in de woodyard. Mama, she +larn me to work and cook and sich and hire me out to nuss a white baby. +I ain't knowed how much dey pay, 'cause mama she collec' de money. + +"I's 19 year old when I marry de first time. You know I got two dead +men, dat Dick Owens and Nero Williams, both of Liberty. I has two gals, +Alice and Airy, for Dick, and five chillen for Nero. Dey all dead but +Adlowyer and Mamie, and dey lives right here. I been marry some thirty +odd year to Ben Chambers but us ain't never have no chillen. + +"Goodness, I dunno how many grandchillen I has. I jedge 'bout 54 in all +and 13 great ones. + +"I loves to work and I ain't gwineter beg, though I's got too old to do +much. I can't take it but a li'l at a time, but I gits by somehow. + + + + +420179 + + + JEPTHA CHOICE, 1117 Brashear St., Houston, Texas, was born in + slavery, on the plantation of Jezro Choice, about 6 miles south of + Henderson, Texas. Jeptha was sent to school with the white + children, and after he was freed, he was sent to school for several + years, and became a teacher. He moved to Houston in 1888 and opened + a barber shop. Jeptha claims to have been born on Oct. 17, 1835, + which would make him 101 years old. He has the appearance of + extreme age, but has a retentive memory, and his manner of speaking + varies from fairly good English to typical Negro dialect and idiom. + + +"I'll be 102 years old, come fall, 'cause my mother told me I was born +on Oct. 17, 1835, and besides, I was about 30 years old at the end of +the Civil War. We belonged to the Choices and I was born on their +plantation. My mother's name was Martha and she had been brought here +from Serbia. My father's name was John and he was from the East Indies. +They was brought to this country in a slave boat owned by Captain Adair +and sold to someone at New Orleans before Master Jezro Choice bought +them. I had five sisters and one brother but they are all dead, 'cepting +one brother who lives near Henderson. + +"Master Jezro was right kind. He had 50 or 60 slaves and a grist mill +and tannery besides the plantation. My white folks sort of picked me out +and I went to school with the white children. I went to the fields when +I was about 20, but I didn't do much field works, 'cause they was +keepin' me good and they didn't want to strain me. + +"On Sunday we just put an old Prince Albert coat on some good nigger and +made a preacher out of him. We niggers had our band, too, and I was one +of the players. + +"The master was mighty careful about raisin' healthy nigger families and +used us strong, healthy young bucks to stand the healthy nigger gals. +When I was young they took care not to strain me and I was as handsome +as a speckled pup and was in demand for breedin'. Later on we niggers +was 'lowed to marry and the master and missus would fix the nigger and +gal up and have the doin's in the big house. The white folks would +gather round in a circle with the nigger and gal in the center and then +master laid a broom on the floor and they held hands and jumped over it. +That married 'em for good. + +"When babies was born old nigger grannies handled them cases, but until +they was about three years old they wasn't 'lowed round the quarters, +but was wet nursed by women who didn't work in the field and kept in +separate quarters and in the evenin' their mammies were let to see 'em. + +"We was fed good and had lots of beef and hawg meat and wild game. +Possum and sweet yams is mighty good. You parboil the possum about half +done and put him in a skewer pan and put him in a hot oven and just +'fore he is done you puts the yams in the pan and sugar on 'em. That's a +feast. + +"Sometimes when they's short of bread the old missus would say, 'How +'bout some ash cakes?' Then they'd mix cornmeal and water and sweep +ashes out of the open hearth and bake the ash cakes. + +"The master and his boys was all kilt in the war and after freedom I +stayed all summer. It was pretty tough on us niggers for a while, 'cause +the womenfolks what was left after the war didn't have money. But +Colonel Jones, the master's son-in-law, took me to live in Henderson and +paid twenty-five cents a week for more schoolin' for me and I learned +through fractions. Then I got me a job teachin' school about six months +a year and in off times I'd farm. I did lots of different kinds of work, +on the narrow gauge railroad out of Longview and I learned to be a +barber, too. But I had to give it up a few years back 'cause I can't +stand up so long any more and now I'm tryin' to help my people by divine +healing. + + + + +420243 + + +[Illustration: Amos Clark's Sorghun Mill] + +[Illustration: Amos Clark] + + + AMOS CLARK, 96, was born a slave of Robert Clark, in Washington + County, Texas. After Amos was freed, he farmed near Belton, Texas. + Amos now lives in Waco. + + +"I was borned on the second of April, in 1841. Mammy say dat de year, +'cause Marse Bob's brother, Tom, done go tradin' and has a lot of +trouble with de Indians, and come back with scars all over he arms. It +warn't all dey fault, 'cause Marse Tom allus gittin' in trouble with +somebody. + +"When I was still half-growed, Marse Bob traded me to Marse Ed +Roseborough, and we come to Belton to live. Us piled ox wagons high with +beddin' and clothes and sich, and Old Marse had he books in a special +horsehair trunk, what de hide still had hair on. It had brass tacks all +trimmin' it up, and it was sho' a fine trunk, and he say, 'Amos, you +black rascal, keep you eye on dat trunk, and don't git it wet crossin' +de water and don't let no Indian git it.' Us had a sizeable drove of +cattle and some sheep and pigs and chickens and ducks. + +"Marse and Missis finds where dey wants de house and us gits dem axes +out and in a few days dere am a nice log house with two big rooms and a +hall 'tween dem, mos' as big as de rooms. Us been on de road 'bout six +weeks and Missis sho' proud of her new house. Den us makes logs into +houses for us and a big kitchen close to de big house. Den us builds a +office for Old Marse and makes chairs and beds and tables for everybody. +Old Miss brung her bed and a spindly, li'l table, and us make all de +rest. + +"For eatin' de good shooters and scouters gits birds and rabbits and +wild turkeys and sometimes a lot of wild eggs or honey, when dey chops a +bee tree down. A old Indian come to holp us hunt. He'd work a week if +Marse Ed give him some red calico or a hatchet. Old Miss done bring a +dozen hens and a bag of seeds, and folks come ridin' twenty miles to +swap things. + +"Dere warn't no mill to grind corn, so de boss carpenter, he hollows out +a log and gits some smooth, hard rocks and us grind de corn like it was +a morter. Old Man Stubblefield builded a watermill on de creek 'bout +eight miles from us, and den us tooken de corn dere. + +"Dere was three hundred acres and more'n fifty slaves, and lots of work, +clearin' and buildin' and plantin'. Some de cabins didn't git no floor +for two years. Jes' quick as dey could, de men gits out clapboards for +de walls and split puncheon slabs for floors and palin's for fences. + +"Missis, she takes two de likelies' young slaves and makes a garden, +come spring. Somehow she git herself roses and posies and vegetables. + +"Dere warn't no overseer. Marse Ed, he jes' ride round on he big hoss +and see to things. Us didn't know nothin 'bout de war much, 'cause none +us could read or write. + +"Dere was two fiddlers 'mongst us, Jim Roseborough and Tom. Dey'd have +de big barbecue for folks come from miles round, and coffee and chicken +and turkey and dancin' and fiddlin' all night. Come daybreak, dey jes' +goin' good. Us niggers dance back de quarters, and call + +"'All eight balance and all eight swing, +All left allemond and right hand grand, +Meet your partner and prom'nade, eight, +Den march till you come straight. + +"'First lady out to couple on de right, +Swing Mr. Adam and swing Miss Eve, +Swing Old Adam befo' you leave, +Don't forgit your own--now you're home.' + +"Two, three years after dat I marries Liza Smith. Us has four chillen +and all dead 'cept John, and he lives out west. + +"After freedom Old Marse say kill a yearlin' and have de big dinner and +dance. De young ones he told to scatter out and hunt work, not to steal +and work hard. Some de oldes' ones he give a cabin and a patch of land. +He say de niggers what want to stay on and work for him can, iffen he +make enough to feed dem. I stays with Marse Ed, but he give me a patch +of twenty acres and a sorghum mill to make a livin' on. Dat how I gits +on my way after freedom. + +"I gits dat sorghum mill to workin' good and works de Roseborough land +and my patch, and raises corn and cotton and wheat. I was plumb good at +farmin'. I allus had a piece or two of money in my pocket since I can +'member, but now de old man's too old. De gov'ment gives me seven or +eight dollars a month and I has a few chickens and gits by, and de good +white folks nigh by sees dat dis old boy don't git cold. + + + + +420059 + + +[Illustration: Anne Clark] + + + MOTHER ANNE CLARK, 112 years old, lives at 3602 Alameda Ave., El + Paso, Texas. She is too crippled to walk, but a smile lights up the + tired old eyes that still see to sew without glasses. One tooth of + a third set is in her upper gum. She is deaf, but can hear if you + speak close to her ear. She says, "Lemma git my ears open, bofe of + 'em," wets her finger, then pulls so hard on the ear lobes it seems + they would be injured. + + +"I'll be 112 years old, come first day of June (1937). Bo'n in +Mississippi. I had two marsters, but I've been free nearly 80 years. I +was freed in Memphis. + +"My marster was a Yankee. He took me to Louisiana and made a slave outta +me. But he had to go to war. He got in a quarrel one day and grabbed two +six-shooters, but a old white man got him down and nearly kilt him. Our +men got him and gave him to the Yankees. + +"Capt. Clark, my second marster, took a shot at him and he couldn' come +south no more. You don' know what a time I seen! I don' wanna see no +more war. Why, we made the United States rich but the Yankees come and +tuk it. They buried money and when you bury money it goes fu'ther down, +down, down, and then you cain't fin' it. + +"You know, the white folks hated to give us up worse thing in the world. +I ploughed, hoed, split rails. I done the hardest work ever a man ever +did. I was so strong, iffen he needed me I'd pull the men down so the +marster could handcuff 'em. They'd whop us with a bullwhip. We got up +at 3 o'clock, at 4 we done et and hitched up the mules and went to the +fiel's. We worked all day pullin' fodder and choppin' cotton. Marster'd +say, 'I wan' you to lead dat fiel' today, and if you don' do it I'll put +you in de stocks.' Then he'd whop me iffen I didn' know he was talkin' +to me. + +"My poppa was strong. He never had a lick in his life. He helped the +marster, but one day the marster says, 'Si, you got to have a whoppin', +and my poppa says, 'I never had a whoppin' and you cain't whop me.' An' +the marster says, 'But I kin kill you,' an' he shot my poppa down. My +mama tuk him in the cabin and put him on a pallet. He died. + +"My mama did the washin' for the big house. She tuk a big tub on her +head and a bucket of water in her hand. My mama had two white chillen by +marster and they were sold as slaves. I had two chillen, too. I never +married. They allus said we'd steal, but I didn' take a thing. Why, +they'd put me on a hoss with money to take into town and I'd take it to +the store in town, and when I'd git back, marster'd say, 'Anne, you +didn' take a thing.' + +"When women was with child they'd dig a hole in the groun' and put their +stomach in the hole, and then beat 'em. They'd allus whop us." + +"Don' gring me anything fine to wear for my birthday. I jus' wan' some +candy. I'm lookin' for Him to take me away from here." + + + + +420293 + + + THOMAS COLE was born in Jackson Co., Alabama, on the 8th of August, + 1845, a slave of Robert Cole. He ran away in 1861 to join the Union + Army. He fought at Chickamauga, under Gen. Rosecran and at + Chattanooga, Look Out Mt. and Orchard Knob, under Gen. Thomas. + After the war he worked as switchman in Chattanooga until his + health failed due to old age. He then came to Texas and lives with + his daughter, in Corsicana. Thomas is blind. + + +"I might as well begin far back as I remember and tell you all about +myself. I was born over in Jackson County, in Alabama, on August 8, +1845. My mother was Elizabeth Cole, her bein' a slave of Robert Cole, +and my father was Alex Gerrand, 'cause he was John Gerrand's slave. I +was sposed to take my father's name, but he was sech a bad, ornery, +no-count sech a human, I jes' taken my old massa's name. My mother was +brung from Virginny by Massa Dr. Cole, and she nussed all his six +chillen. My sister's name was Sarah and my brother's name was Ben and we +lived in one room of the big house, and allus had a good bed to sleep in +and good things to eat at the same table, after de white folks gits +through. + +"I played with Massa Cole's chillen all de time, and when I got older he +started me workin' by totin' wood and sech odd jobs, and feedin' de +hawgs. Us chillen had to pick cotton every fall. De big baskets weigh +about seventy-five to a hundred pounds, but us chillen put our pickin's +in some growed slave's basket. De growed slaves was jes' like a mule. He +work for grub and clothes, and some of dem didn't have as easier a time +as a mule, for mules was fed good and slaves was sometimes half +starved. But Massa Cole was a smart man and a good man with it. He had +'spect for the slaves' feelin's and didn't treat dem like dumb brutes, +and 'lowed dem more privileges dan any other slaveholder round dere. He +was one of de best men I ever knows in my whole life and his wife was +jes' like him. Dey had a big, four-room log house with a big hall down +the center up and down. De logs was all peeled and de chinkin' a +diff'rent color from de logs and covered with beads. De kitchen am a +one-room house behin' de big house with de big chimney to cook on. Dat +where all de meals cooked and carry to de house. + +"In winter massa allus kill from three to four hundred hawgs, de two +killin's he done in November and January. Some kill and stick, some +scald and scrape, and some dress dem and cut dem up and render de lard. +Dey haul plenty hick'ry wood to de smokehouse and de men works in shifts +to keep de smoke fire goin' sev'ral days, den hangs de meat in de +meathouse. First us eat all de chitlin's, den massa begin issuin' +cut-back bones to each fam'ly, and den 'long come de spareribs, den de +middlin' or a shoulder, and by dat time he kill de second time and dis +was to go all over 'gain. Each fam'ly git de same kind of meat each +week. Iffen one git a ham, dey all git a ham. All de ears and feet was +pickle and we eats dem, too. If de meat run out 'fore killin' time, us +git wild turkeys or kill a beef or a goat, or git a deer. + +"Massa let us plant pumpkins and have a acre or two for watermelons, +iffen us work dem on Saturday evenin's. Dere a orchard of 'bout five or +six acres peaches and apples and he 'low us to have biscuits once a +week. Yes, we had good eatin' and plenty of it den. + +"Massa had one big, stout, healthy lookin' slave 'bout six foot, four +inches tall, what he pay $3,000 for. He bought six slaves I knows of and +give from $400 up for dem. He never sold a slave 'less he git onruly. + +"Massa allus give us cotton clothes for summer and wool for winter, +'cause he raised cotton and sheep. Den each fam'ly have some chickens +and sell dem and de eggs and maybe go huntin' and sell de hides and git +some money. Den us buy what am Sunday clothes with dat money, sech as +hats and pants and shoes and dresses. + +"We'd git up early every day in de year, rain or shine, hot or cold. A +slave blowed de horn and dere no danger of you not wakin' up when dat +blowed long and loud. He climb up on a platform 'bout ten feet tall to +blow dat bugle. We'd work till noon and eat in de shade and rest 'bout a +hour or a little more iffen it hot, but only a hour if it cold. You is +allus tired when you makes de day like dat on de plantation and you +can't play all night like de young folks does now. But us lucky, 'cause +Massa Cole don't whip us. De man what have a place next ours, he sho' +whip he slaves. He have de cat-o-nine tails of rawhide leather platted +round a piece of wood for a handle. De wood 'bout ten inches long and de +leather braided on past de stock quite a piece, and 'bout a foot from +dat all de strips tied in a knot and sprangle out, and makes de tassle. +Dis am call de cracker and it am what split de hide. Some folks call dem +bullwhips, 'stead of cat-o-nine tails. De first thing dat man do when he +buy a slave, am give him de whippin'. He call it puttin' de fear of Gawd +in him. + +"Massa Cola 'low us read de Bible. He awful good 'bout dat. Most de +slaveowners wouldn't 'low no sech. Uncle Dan he read to us and on Sunday +we could go to church. De preacher baptize de slaves in de river. Dat +de good, old-time 'ligion, and us all go to shoutin' and has a good +time. Dis gen'ration too dig'fied to have de old-time 'ligion. + +"When baptizin' comes off, it almost like goin' to de circus. People +come from all over and dey all singin' songs and everybody take dere +lunch and have de good time. Massa Cole went one time and den he git +sick, and next summer he die. Missy Cole, she moves to Huntsville, in +Alabama. But she leave me on de plantation, 'cause I'm big and stout +den. She takes my mother to cook and dat de last time I ever seed my +mother. Missy Cole buys de fine house in Huntsville my mother tells me +to be good and do all de overseer tells me. I told her goodbye and she +never did git to come back to see me, and I never seed her and my +brother and sister 'gain. I don't know whether dey am sold or not. + +"I thinks to myself, dat Mr. Anderson, de overseer, he'll give me dat +cat-o-nine tails de first chance he gits, but makes up my mind he won't +git de chance, 'cause I's gwine run off de first chance I gits. I didn't +know how to git out of dere, but I's gwine north where dere ain't no +slaveowners. In a year or so dere am 'nother overseer, Mr. Sandson, and +he give me de log house and de gal to do my cookin' and sich. Dere am +war talk and we 'gins gwine to de field earlier and stayin' later. Corn +am haul off, cotton am haul off, hawgs and cattle am rounded up and haul +off and things 'gins lookin' bad. De war am on, but us don't see none of +it. But 'stead of eatin' cornbread, us eats bread out of kaffir corn and +maize. "We raises lots of okra and dey say it gwine be parch +and grind to make coffee for white folks. Dat didn't look good either. +Dat winter, 'stead of killin' three or four hundred hawgs like we allus +done befo', we only done one killin' of a hundred seventy-five, and dey +not all big ones, neither. When de meat supply runs low, Mr. Sandson +sends some slaves to kill a deer or wild hawgs or jes' any kind of game. +He never sends me in any dem bunches but I hoped he would and one day he +calls me to go and says not to go off de plantation too far, but be sho' +bring home some meat. Dis de chance I been wantin', so when we gits to +de huntin' ground de leader says to scatter out, and I tells him me and +'nother man goes north and make de circle round de river and meet 'bout +sundown. I crosses de river and goes north. I's gwine to de free +country, where dey ain't no slaves. I travels all dat day and night up +de river and follows de north star. Sev'ral times I thunk de blood +houn's am trailin' me and I gits in de big hurry. I's so tired I +couldn't hardly move, but I gits in a trot. + +"I's hopin' and prayin' all de time I meets up with dat Harriet Tubman +woman. She de cullud women what takes slaves to Canada. She allus +travels de underground railroad, dey calls it, travels at night and +hides out in de day. She sho' sneaks dem out de South and I thinks she's +de brave woman. + +"I eats all de nuts and kills a few swamp rabbits and cotches a few +fish. I builds de fire and goes off 'bout half a mile and hides in de +thicket till it burns down to de coals, den bakes me some fish and +rabbit. I's shakin' all de time, 'fraid I'd git cotched, but I's nearly +starve to death. I puts de rest de fish in my cap and travels on dat +night by de north star and hides in a big thicket de nex' day and along +evenin' I hears guns shootin'. I sho' am scart dis time, sho' 'nough. +I's scart to come in and scart to go out, and while I's standin' dere, I +hears two men say, 'Stick you hands up, boy. What you doin?' I says, +'Uh-uh-uh, I dunno. You ain't gwine take me back to de plantation, is +you?' Dey says, 'No. Does you want to fight for de North?' I says I +will, 'cause dey talks like northern men. Us walk night and day and gits +in Gen. Rosecran's camp and dey thunk I's de spy from de South. Dey asks +me all sorts of questions and says dey'll whip me if I didn't tell dem +what I's spyin' 'bout. Fin'ly dey 'lieves me and puts me to work helpin' +with de cannons. I feels 'portant den, but I didn't know what was in +front of me, or I 'spects I'd run off 'gain. + +"I helps sot dem cannons on dis Chickamauga Mountain, in hidin' places. +I has to go with a man and wait on him and dat cannon. First thing I +knows, bang, bang, boom, things has started, and guns am shootin' faster +dan you can think, and I looks round for de way to run. But dem guns am +shootin' down de hill in front of me and shootin' at me, and over me and +on both sides of me. I tries to dig me a hole and git in it. All dis +happen right now, and first thing I knows, de man am kickin' me and +wantin' me to holp him keep dat cannon loaded. Man, I didn't want no +cannon, but I has to help anyway. We fit till dark and de Rebels got +more men dan us, so Gen. Rosecran sends de message to Gen. Woods to come +help us out. When de messenger slips off, I sho' wish it am me slippin' +off, but I didn't want to see no Gen. Woods. I jes' wants to git back to +dat old plantation and pick more cotton. I'd been willin' to do mos' +anything to git out that mess, but I done told Gen. Rosecran I wants to +fight de Rebels and he sho' was lettin' me do it. He wasn't jes' lettin' +me do it, he was makin' me do it. I done got in dere and he wouldn't let +me out. + +"White folks, dere was men layin' wantin' help, wantin' water, with +blood runnin' out dem and de top or sides dere heads gone, great big +holes in dem. I jes' promises de good Lawd if he jes' let me git out dat +mess, I wouldn't run off no more, but I didn't know den he wasn't gwine +let me out with jes' dat battle. He gwine give me plenty more, but dat +battle ain't over yet, for nex' mornin' de Rebels 'gins shootin' and +killin' lots of our men, and Gen. Woods ain't come, so Gen. Rosecran +orders us to 'treat, and didn't have to tell me what he said, neither. +De Rebels comes after us, shootin', and we runs off and leaves dat +cannon what I was with settin' on de hill, and I didn't want dat thing +nohow. + +"We kep' hotfootin' till we gits to Chattanooga and dere is where we +stops. Here comes one dem Rebel generals with de big bunch of men and +gits right on top of Look Out Mountain, right clost to Chattanooga, and +wouldn't let us out. I don't know jes' how long, but a long time. Lots +our hosses and mules starves to death and we eats some de hosses. We all +like to starve to death ourselves. Chattanooga is in de bend de +Tennessee River and on Look Out Mountain, on de east, am dem Rebels and +could keep up with everything we done. After a long time a Gen. Thomas +gits in some way. He finds de rough trail or wagon road round de +mountain 'long de river and supplies and men comes by boat up de river +to dis place and comes on into Chattanooga. More Union men kep' comin' +and I guess maybe six or eight generals and dey gits ready to fight. It +am long late in Fall or early winter. + +"Dey starts climbin' dis steep mountain and when us gits three-fourths +de way up it am foggy and you couldn't see no place. Everything wet and +de rocks am slick and dey 'gins fightin'. I 'spect some shoots dere own +men, 'cause you couldn't see nothin', jes' men runnin' and de guns +roarin'. Fin'ly dem Rebels fled and we gits on Look Out Mountain and +takes it. + +"Dere a long range of hills leadin' 'way from Look Out Mountain, nearly +to Missionary Ridge. Dis ridge 'longside de Chickamauga River, what am +de Indian name, meanin' River of Death. Dey fights de Rebels on Orchard +Knob hill and I wasn't in dat, but I's in de Missionary Ridge battle. We +has to come out de timber and run 'cross a strip or openin' up de hill. +Dey sho' kilt lots our men when we runs 'cross dat openin'. We runs for +all we's worth and uses guns or anything we could. De Rebels turns and +runs off and our soldiers turns de cannons round what we's capture, and +kilt some de Rebels with dere own guns. + +"I never did git to where I wasn't scart when we goes into de battle. +Dis de last one I's in and I's sho' glad, for I never seed de like of +dead and wounded men. We picks dem up, de Rebels like de Unions, and +doctors dem de bes' we could. When I seed all dat sufferin', I hopes I +never lives to see 'nother war. Dey say de World War am worse but I's +too old to go. + +"I sho' wishes lots of times I never run off from de plantation. I begs +de General not to send me on any more battles, and he says I's de coward +and sympathizes with de South. But I tells him I jes' couldn't stand to +see all dem men layin' dere dyin' and hollerin' and beggin' for help and +a drink of water, and blood everywhere you looks. Killin' hawgs back on +de plantation didn't bother me none, but dis am diff'rent. + +"Fin'ly de General tells me I can go back to Chattanooga and guard de +supplies in camp dere and take care de wounded soldiers and prisoners. A +bunch of men is with me and we has all we can do. We gits de orders to +send supplies to some general and it my job to help load de wagons or +box cars or boats. A train of wagons leaves sometimes. We gits all dem +supplies by boat, and Chattanooga am de 'stributing center. When winter +comes, everybody rests awhile and waits for Spring to open. De Union +general sends in some more cullud soldiers. Dere ain't been many cullud +men but de las' year de war dere am lots. De North and de South am +takin' anything dey can git to win de war. + +"When Spring breaks and all de snow am gone, and de trees 'gins puttin' +out and everything 'gins to look purty and peaceable-like, makin' you +think you ought to be plowin' and plantin' a crop, dat when de fightin' +starts all over 'gain, killin' men and burnin' homes and stealin' stock +and food. Den dey sends me out to help clear roads and build temp'rary +bridges. We walks miles on muddy ground, 'cross rivers, wadin' water up +to our chins. We builds rafts and pole bridges to git de mules and +hosses and cannons 'cross, and up and down hills, and cuts roads through +timber. + +"But when dey wants to battle Gen. Thomas allus leaves me in camp to +tend de supplies. He calls me a coward, and I sho' glad he thunk I was. +I wasn't no coward, I jes' couldn't stand to see all dem people tore to +pieces. I hears 'bout de battle in a thick forest and de trees big as my +body jes' shot down. I seed dat in de Missionary Ridge battle, too. + +"I shifts from one camp to 'nother and fin'ly gits back to Chattanooga. +I bet durin' my time I handles 'nough ammunition to kill everybody in de +whole United States. I seed mos' de mainest generals in de Union Army +and some in de Rebel Army. + +"After de war am over we's turned loose, nowhere to go and nobody to +help us. I couldn't go South, for dey calls me de traitor and sho' kill +me iffen dey knows I fit for de North. I does any little job I can git +for 'bout a year and fin'ly gits work on de railroad, in Stevenson, in +Alabama. I gits transfer to Chattanooga and works layin' new tracks and +turn tables and sich. + +"In 'bout two weeks I had saw a gal next door, but I's bashful. But +after payday I dresses up and takes her to a dance. We sparks 'bout two +months and den we's married at her uncles. Her name am Nancy. We buys a +piece of land and I has a two-room house built on it. We has two chillen +and I's livin' with de baby gal now. + +"I 'lieve de slaves I knowed as a whole was happier and better off after +'mancipation dan befo'. Of course, de first few years it was awful hard +to git 'justed to de new life. All de slaves knowed how to do hard work, +and dat de old slaves life, but dey didn't know nothin' 'bout how to +'pend on demselves for de livin'. My first year was hard, but dere was +plenty wild game in dem days. De south was broke and I didn't hear of no +slaves gittin' anything but to crop on de halves. Dey too glad to be +free and didn't want nothin'. + +"Things 'gin to git bad for me in Chattanooga as de white men finds out +I run off from de South and jined de North. Some de brakemen try to git +my job. I fin'ly quits when one of dem opens a switch I jus' closed. I +seed him and goes back and fixes de switch, but I quits de job. I goes +up north but dey ain't int'rested, so I comes back and sells my home and +buys me a team and wagon. I loads it with my wife and chillen and a few +things and starts for Texas. We's on de road 'bout six weeks or two +months. We fishes and hunts every day and de trip didn't cost much. I +buys ninety acres in timber in Cass County and cuts logs for a house and +builds a two-room house and log crib. My wife built a stomp lot for de +team and cow and a rail fence. + +"We got 'nough land cleared for de small crop, 'bout thirty acres, and +builds de barn and sheds outselves. We lived there till de chillen am +growed. My wife died of chills and fever and den my boy and I built a +four-room house of planks from our timber. Den I gits lonesome, 'cause +de chillen gone, and sells de place. I bought it for fifty cents de acre +and sold it for $12.00 de acre. + +"I buys sixty acres in Henderson County for $15.00 a acre and marries de +second time. I didn't care for her like Nancy. All she think 'bout am +raisin' de devil and never wants to work or save anything. She like to +have broke me down befo' I gits rid of her. I stayed and farmed sev'ral +years. + +"My son-in-law rents land in Chambers Creek bottom, and he usually gits +he crop 'fore de flood gits it. We has some hawgs to kill ev'ry winter +and we has our cornmeal and milk and eggs and chickens, so de 'pression +ain't starved us yit. We all got might' nigh naked durin' de 'pression. +I feeds de hawgs and chickens night and mornin'. I can't see dem, but I +likes to listen to dem eatin' and cackle. People don't know how dey's +blessed with good eyes, till dey loses dem. Everybody ought to be more +thankful dan they is. + +"I ain't never voted in my life. I leans to de 'publicans. I don't know +much 'bout politics, though. + +"Today I is broke, 'cause I spent all my money for med'cine and doctors, +but I gits a small pension and I spends it mos' careful. + + + + +420270 + + + ELI COLEMAN, 91, was born a slave of George Brady, in Kentucky. + Eli's memory is poor and his story is somewhat sketchy. He now + lives in Madisonville, Texas. + + +"I has a old bill of sale, and it shows I's born in 1846 and my massa am +George Brady. I know my pappy's name was same as mine, and mammy was +Ella, and I had one brother named Sam, and my sisters was Sadie and Rosa +and Viola. They's all dead now. + +"Pappy was owned by Massa Coleman, what was brother to Massa Brady. +Pappy could only see mammy once a week when he's courtin' for her. I +heard pappy tell 'bout his pappy, over in Africy, and he had near a +hundred wives and over three hundred chillen. + +"Pappy never did work. All he ever did was trade. He'd make one thing +and 'nother and trade it for something to eat. He could get lots of +fruit and game out of the woods them days, and there was lots of fish. + +"Our log house was built of logs, trimmed, and had six rooms. It was +long, like a cowbarn or chicken house, and my room was third. We had one +door to each room, covered over with hides. We dug out one corner for +the bed and fenced it up and gathered straw and moss and tore-up corn +shucks, and put in the corner to sleep on. What I mean, it was a warm +bed. + +"We did all kinds of work, choppin' cotton and split rails and cut rock, +and work in the tobacco field. We'd cut that tobacco and hang it in the +shed to dry. It had to be hanged by the stubble end. + +"We had plenty to eat, sech as corn pones. The corn was grated by hand +and cooked in ashes, and no salt or soda or fancy things like they put +in bread now. + +"There was possum and rabbit and we cooked them different to now. A +great big, old pot hung over the old rock fireplace. Food cooked that +way still eats good. Massa Brady allus give us lots out of the garden. +He fed us reg'lar on good, 'stantial food, jus' like you'd tend to you +hoss, if you had a real good one. + +"Massa Brady, he was one these jolly fellows and a real good man, allus +good to his black folks. Missy, she was plumb angel. They lived in a old +stone house with four big rooms. It was the best house in the whole +county and lots of shade trees by it. + +"We had 'bout a hundred acres in our plantation and started to the field +'fore daylight and worked long as we could see, and fed ane stock and +got to bed 'bout nine o'clock. Massa whopped a slave if he got stubborn +or lazy. He whopped one so hard that slave said he'd kill him. So Massa +done put a chain round his legs, so he jus' hardly walk, and he has to +work in the field that way. At night he put 'nother chain round his neck +and fastened it to a tree. After three weeks massa turnt him loose and +that the proudes' nigger in the world, and the hardes' workin' nigger +massa had after that. + +"On Saturday night we could git a pass or have a party on our own place. +Through the week we'd fall into our quarters and them patterrollers come +walk all over us, and we'd be plumb still, but after they done gone some +niggers gits up and out. + +"On Christmas Day massa make a great big eggnog and let us have all we +wants with a big dinner. He kilt a yearlin' and made plenty barbecue for +us. + +"Massa was a colonel in the war and took me along to care for his hoss +and gun. Them guns, you couldn't hear nothin' for them poppin'. Us +niggers had to go all over and pick up them what got kilt. Them what was +hurt we carried back. Them what was too bad hurt we had to carry to the +burying place and the white man'd finish killin' them, so we could roll +them in the hole. + +"When massa say we're free, we all 'gun to take on. We didn't have no +place to go and asked massa could we stay, but he say no. But he did let +some stay and furnished teams and something to eat and work on the +halves. I stayed and was sharecropper, and that was when slavery start, +for when we got our cop made it done take every bit of it to pay our +debts and we had nothing left to buy winter clothes or pay doctor bills. + +"'Bout a year after the war I marries Nora Brady, jus' a home weddin'. I +asks her to come live with me as my wife and she 'greed and she jus' +moved her clothes to my room and we lived together a long time. One +mornin' Nora jus' died, and there warn't no chillen, so I sets out for +Texas. I done hear the railroad is buildin' in Texas and they hires lots +of niggers. I gits a hoss from massa and rolls up a few clothes and gits +my gun. + +"I never got very far 'fore the Indians takes my hoss away from me. It +was 'bout fifty mile to a train and I didn't have no money, but I found +a white man what wants wood cut and I works near a month for him and +gits $2.00. I gits on a train and comes a hundred mile from where that +railroad was goin' 'cross the country, and I has to walk near all that +hundred miles. Once and now a white man comin' or goin' lets me ride. +But I got there and the job pays me sixty cents a day. That was lots of +money them days. Near as I 'member, it was 1867 or 1868 when I comes to +Texas. + +"Then I marries Agnes Frazer, and we has a big weddin' and a preacher +and a big supper for two or three weeks. Her pappy kilt game and we et +barbecue all the time. We had eleven chillen, one a year for a long +time, five boys and six gals. One made a school teacher and I ain't seen +her nearly forty-five years, 'cause she done took a notion to go north +and they won't let her back in Texas 'cause she married a white man in +New York. I don't like that. She don't have no sense or she wouldn't +done that, no, sir. + +"Since the nigger been free it been Hell on the poor old nigger. He has +advance some ways, but he's still a servant and will be, long as Gawd's +curse still stay on the Negro race. We was turnt loose without nothin' +and done been under the white man rule so long we couldn't hold no job +but labor. I worked most two years on that railroad and the rest my life +I farms. Now I gits a little pension from the gov'ment and them white +folks am sho' good to give it to me, 'cause I ain't good for work no +more. + + + + +420003 + + +[Illustration: Preely Coleman] + + + PREELY COLEMAN was born in 1852 on the Souba farm, near New Berry, + South Carolina, but he and his mother were sold and brought to + Texas when Preely was a month old. They settled near Alto, Texas. + Preely now lives in Tyler. + + +"I'm Preely Coleman and I never gits tired of talking. Yes, ma'am, it am +Juneteenth, but I'm home, 'cause I'm too old now to go on them +celerabrations. Where was I born? I knows that 'zactly, 'cause my mammy +tells me that a thousand times. I was born down on the old Souba place, +in South Carolina, 'bout ten mile from New Berry. My mammy belonged to +the Souba family, but its a fact one of the Souba boys was my pappy and +so the Soubas sells my mammy to Bob and Dan Lewis and they brung us to +Texas 'long with a big bunch of other slaves. Mammy tells me it was a +full month 'fore they gits to Alto, their new home. + +"When I was a chile I has a purty good time, 'cause there was plenty +chillen on the plantation. We had the big races. Durin' the war the +sojers stops by on the way to Mansfield, in Louisiana, to git somethin' +to eat and stay all night, and then's when we had the races. There was a +mulberry tree we'd run to and we'd line up and the sojers would say, +'Now the first one to slap that tree gits a quarter,' and I nearly allus +gits there first. I made plenty quarters slappin' that old mulberry +tree! + +"So the chillen gits into their heads to fix me, 'cause I wins all the +quarters. They throws a rope over my head and started draggin down the +road, and down the hill, and I was nigh 'bout choked to death. My only +friend was Billy and he was a-fightin', tryin' to git me loose. They was +goin' to throw me in the big spring at the foot of that hill, but we +meets Capt. Berryman, a white man, and he took his knife and cut the +rope from my neck and took me by the heels and soused me up and down in +the spring till I come to. They never tries to kill me any more. + +"My mammy done married John Selman on the way to Texas, no cere'mony, +you knows, but with her massa's consent. Now our masters, the Lewises, +they loses their place and then the Selman's buy me and mammy. They pays +$1,500 for my mammy and I was throwed in. + +"Massa Selman has five cabins in he backyard and they's built like half +circle. I grows big 'nough to hoe and den to plow. We has to be ready +for the field by daylight and the conk was blowed, and massa call out, +'All hands ready for the field.' At 11:30 he blows the conk, what am the +mussel shell, you knows, 'gain and we eats dinner, and at 12:30 we has +to be back at work. But massa wouldn't 'low no kind of work on Sunday. + +"Massa Tom made us wear the shoes, 'cause they's so many snags and +stumps our feets gits sore, and they was red russet shoes. I'll never +forgit 'em, they was so stiff at first we could hardly stand 'em. But +Massa Tom was a good man, though he did love he dram. He kep' the bottle +in the center of the dining table all the time and every meal he'd have +the toddy. Us slaves et out under the trees in summer and in the kitchen +in winter and most gen'rally we has bread in pot liquor or milk, but +sometimes honey. + +"I well 'members when freedom come. We was in the field and massa comes +up and say, 'You all is free as I is.' There was shoutin' and singin' +and 'fore night us was all 'way to freedom. + + + + +420292 + + + HARRIET COLLINS was born in Houston, Texas, in 1870. Her family had + been slaves of Richard Coke, and remained with him many years after + they were freed. Harriet recalls some incidents of Reconstruction + days, and believes in the superstitions handed down to her from + slave days. + + +"My birthday done come in January, on de tenth. I's birthed in Houston, +in 1870, and Gov. Richard Coke allus had owned my daddy and mammy, and +dey stayed with him after freedom. Mammy, what was Julia Collins, didn't +die till 1910, and she was most a hundred year old. + +"She done told me many a time 'bout how folkses git all worked up over +Marse Coke's 'lection. Mammy took lunch to de Capitol House to Marse +Richard, and dere he am on de top floor with all he congressmen and dat +Davis man and he men on de bottom floor, tryin' to say Marse Richard +ain't got no right to be governor dis here State. Old Miss and de +folkses didn't sleep a wink dat night, 'cause dey thunk it sho' be a +fight. Dat in 1873, Mammy allus say. + +"De old place at Houston was like most all old places. Dere was little, +small dormer windows, dey call 'em, in upstairs, and big porches +everywhere. Dere was 'hogany furniture and rosewood bedsteads, and big, +black walnut dressers with big mirrors and little ones down de side. Old +Miss allus have us keep de drapes white as drifted snow, and polish de +furniture till it shine. Dere was sofies with dem claw foots, and lots +of purty chiny and silver. + +"On de farm out from town dere was de log house, with quarters and de +smokehouse and washhouse and big barns and carriage house. De quarters +was little, whitewashed, log houses, one for de family, and a fence of +de split palin's round most of dem. + +"De white and cullud chillen played together, all over de place. Dey +went fishin' and rode de plough hosses and run de calves and colts and +sech devilment. De little white gals all had to wear sunbonnets, and Old +Miss, she sew dem bonnets on every day, so dey not git sunburnt. Us +niggers weared de long, duckin' shirts till us git 'bout growed, and den +us weared long, dark blue dresses. Dey had spinnin' and weavin' rooms, +where de cullud women makes de clothes. + +"Old Miss, she sho' a powerful manager. She knowed jes' how much meal +and meat and sorghum it gwine take to run de plantation a year. She know +jes' how much thread it take for spinnin', and she bossed de settin' +hens and turkeys and fixin' of 'serves and soap. She was sho' good to +you iffen you work and do like she tell you. Many a night she go round +to see dat all was right. She a powerful good nuss, too, and so was +mammy. + +"De white folks had good times. Dey'd go hossback ridin' and on picnics, +and fishin' and have big dinners and balls. Come Christmas, dey have us +slaves cut a big lot of wood and keep fires all night for a week or two. +De house be lit with candles from top to toe, and lots of company come. +For dinner us have turkey and beef roast and a big 'ginny ham and big +bowls of eggnog and a pitcher of apple cider and apple toddy. All us git +somethin' on Christmas and plenty eggnog, but no gittin' drunk. + +"I can jes' see Marse Dick, tall and kinder stooped like, with de big +flop hat and longtail coat and allus carryin' a big, old walkin' stick. +He was sho' a brave man and de big men say dey likes dat flop hat, +'cause dey done follow it on de battlefield. He had a big voice and dey +do tell how, in de war, he'd holler, 'Come on, boys,' and de bullets be +like hail and men fallin' all round, but dat don't stop Marse Dick. He'd +take off dat flop hat and plunge right on and dey'd foller he bald head +where de fight was hottes'. He was sho' a man! + +"When I gits married it was eight folkses dere, I jus' walks off and +goes to housekeepin'. I had a calico dress and a Baptist preacher +marries us. + +"Dere been some queer things white folks can't understand. Dere am +folkses can see de spirits, but I can't. My mammy larned me a lots of +doctorin', what she larnt from old folkses from Africy, and some de +Indians larnt her. If you has rheumatism, jes' take white sassafras root +and bile it and drink de tea. You makes lin'ment by bilin' mullein +flowers and poke roots and alum and salt. Put red pepper in you shoes +and keep de chills off, or string briars round de neck. Make red or +black snakeroot tea to cure fever and malaria, but git de roots in de +spring when de sap am high. + +"When chillen teethin' put rattlesnake rattles round de neck, and +alligator teeth am good, too. Show de new moon money and you'll have +money all month. Throw her five kisses and show her money and make five +wishes and you'll git dem. Eat black-eyed peas on New Year and have luck +all dat year: + +"'Dose black-eyed peas is lucky, +When et on New Year's Day; +You'll allus have sweet 'taters +And possum come you way.' + +"When anybody git cut I allus burns woolen rags and smokes de wound or +burns a piece fat pine and drops tar from it on scorched wool and bind +it on de wound. For headache put a horseradish poultice on de head, or +wear a nutmeg on a string round you neck. + +If you kills de first snake you sees in spring, you enemies ain't gwine +git de best of you dat year. For a sprain, git a dirt dauber's nest and +put de clay with vinegar and bind round de sprain. De dime on de string +round my ankle keeps cramps out my leg, and tea from red coon-root good, +too. All dese doctorin' things come clear from Africy, and dey allus +worked for mammy and for me, too. + + + + +420187 + + + ANDREW (Smoky) COLUMBUS was born in 1859 on the John J. Ellington + plantation, one mile south of Linden, Texas. He continued in the + service of the Ellingtons until about 1878, when he moved to + Jefferson, Texas. He carried meals to Abe Rothchild, who was in + jail, charged with the murder of Diamond Bessie Moore. Andrew was + 37 years a servant of Hon. Tom Armistead, and was a porter in the + Capital at Austin when Armistead was a senator. Andrew now lives in + Marshall, Texas. + + +"I was bo'n a slave of Master John Ellington, who lived in Davis County +(now Cass Co.), Texas. Master John had a big house and close by was a +long, double row of slave quarters. It looked like a town. There was +four boys and two girls in Master's fam'ly and one daughter, Miss Lula, +married Lon Morris, that run the Lon Morris School. + +"Master John was one white man that sho' took care of his niggers. He +give us plenty warm clothes and good shoes, and come see us and had Dr. +Hume doctor us when we was sick. The niggers et ham and middlin' and +good eats as anybody. Master John's place joined the Haggard place, +where they was lots of wild turkey and the slaves could go huntin' and +fishin' when they wanted. + +"We had a church and a school for the slaves and the white folks helped +us git book learnin'. Mos' of the niggers allus went to preachin' on +Sunday. + +"The hands didn't work Saturday afternoons. That's when we'd wash our +clothes and clean up for Sunday. There was parties and dances on +Saturday night for them as wanted them. But there wasn't no whiskey +drinkin' and fightin' at the parties. Mammy didn't go to them. She was +religious and didn't believe in dancin' and sech like. On Christmas +Master John allus give the slaves a big dinner and it didn't seem like +slavery time. The niggers had a sight better time than they do now. + +"Master John did all the bossin' hisself. None of his niggers ever run +off 'cause he was too good for them to do that. I only got one whippin' +from him and it was for stealin' eggs from a hen's nest. My pappy was +carriage driver for Master. I didn't do much of the work when I was a +boy, jes' stayed round the house. + +"Master John raised lots of cotton and after it was baled he hauled it +to Jefferson on ox wagons. I'd allus go with him, ridin' on top of the +bales. I'll never forgit how scared I was when we'd cross Black Cypress +on Roger's Ferryboat and it'd begin to rock. + +"I don't remember much about the War. When it was over Master John calls +all his slaves together and says, 'You'se free now and you can go or +stay.' He told the men who wanted to leave they could have a wagon and +team, but most of them stayed. Pappy took a wagon and team and left but +mammy and us children stayed and lived with Master Ellington 'bout 15 +years after the war was over. + +"When I left Master John I moved to Jefferson and married Cora Benton +and we had three boys and two girls. While I was in Jefferson Sheriff +Vine goes to Cincinnati after Abe Rothchild, for killin' 'Diamond +Bessie.' Abe shot hisself in the forehead when he heared Sheriff Vine +was after him, but it didn't kill him. There was sho' some stirrin' +about when the sheriff fotch Abe back to Jefferson. + +"Mr. Sam Brown was the jailer. Abe wouldn't eat the jail food and hired +me to bring his meals to him from the hotel. His cell was fixed up like +a hotel room, with a fine brussels rug and nice tables and chairs. He +kep' plenty of whiskey and beer to drink. He'd allus give me a drink +when I took his meals. + +"I worked 37 years for Mr. Tom Armistead, who helped W.T. Crawford and +his brother defend Rothchild. Mr. Eppenstadt, he was mayor of Jefferson +then and acted as a go-between man in the case. + +"Master Tom Armistead never married and I kep' house and cooked for him. +He give me lots of fine clothes. I bet I owned more fine shirts than any +nigger in Texas. He got me a job as porter in the Capitol at Austin +while he was senator. I was workin' there when they moved in the new +Capitol in 1888. They was gonna put on a big party and say all the +porters had to wear cutaway suits. I didn't have one, so the day 'fore +the party I goes over to Mr. Tom's room at the Bristol Hotel and git one +of his. I didn't know then it was a right new one he had made for the +party. When I goes back to the Capitol all dressed up in that cutaway +suit, I meets Mr. Templeton Houston and he recognises the suit and says. +'You sho' look fine in Mr. Tom's new suit,' 'bout that time Mr. Tom +walks up and, you know, he give me that suit and had him another one +made for the party! I wouldn't live where there wasn't no good white +folks. + + + + +420218 + + +[Illustration: Steve Conally] + +[Illustration: Steve Conally's House] + + + STEVE CONNALLY, 90, was born a slave of Tom Connally, grandfather + of United States Senator Tom Connally, from Texas. The family then + lived in Georgia, and Steve's master was a member of the Georgia + Legislature. + + +"I was born in Murray County, Georgia, and was a slave of Massa Tom +Connally, but they called him Massa "Cushi" Connally. He was a member of +de Georgia Legislature. I stayed with Missy Mary Connally till I was +sixty-seven and Massa Cushi died when I was sixty-nine. + +"My mother, Mandy, weighed two hundred pounds and she was de Connally +cook. When I was born, she took de fever and couldn't raise me, so Missy +Mary took and kep' me in a li'l cot by her bed. After dat, I'm with her +nearly all de time and follows her. When she go to de garden I catches +her dresstail and when she go to de doctor, 'bout eighty miles away, I +goes with her. + +"I mus' tell you why everybody call Massa Connally Cushi. Dere am allus +so many Tom Connallys in de fam'ly, dey have to have de nickname to tell +one from de other. + +"Back dere in Georgia, us have lots and lots of fruit. Come time, de +women folks preserves and cans till it ain't no use. My mammy take de +prize any day with her jelly and sech, and her cakes jes' nachelly walk +off and leave de whole county. Missy Mary sho' de master hand hersef at +de fine bakin' and I'd slip round and be handy to lick out de pans. + +"Dey didn't have no 'frigerators den, but dey built log houses without a +floor over de good, cold spring, and put flat rocks dere to keep de milk +and cream and butter cold. Or dey dig out de place so de crock be down +in de wet dirt. Dey sho' have to make de latch up high, so de bad +chillen couldn't open dat door! + +"De plantation in Georgia was de whopper. I don't know 'zactly how many +acres, but it a big one. Us make everything and tan hides and make +shoes, jes' like all de big places did. De big house and de weavin' +house and de tannin' yard and de sugar mill and slave quarters made a +li'l town. Dere used to be some mighty big doin's dere. De Connally men +and women am allus good lookers and mighty pop'lar, and folkses come +from far and near to visit dem. All de 'portant men come and all de +sassiety belles jes' drift to our place. Dere sho' lots of big balls and +dinners and de house fix mighty fine dem times. De women wore de hoop +skirts and de ribbons and laces. My missy was de bes' lookin' from far +and near, and all de gem'mans want to dance with her. She sho' look like +de queen you see in de picture books and she have mighty high ways with +folks, but she's mighty good to dis here li'l black boy. + +"I goes in de buggy with Massa Cushi, up to Tennessee, to git his sons +what been kilt or wounded. Massa Ned, he dead, and Massa Charles, he +shot in de hip, and die after he git brung home. Massa Dick hurt, too, +but he didn't die. + +"Right after de Civil War, when I'm 'bout nineteen, I comes to Texas +with de Connallys, all what didn't git kilt in de war. I stays with +Missy Mary till she die in Georgia. Her son, Jones Connally, come to +Brazos County, near Bryan, and after dat removes to Eddy. I works for +him two years and has lived round Eddy ever since. De Connallys give me +a house and lot in Eddy. Some de fool niggers 'spected a lot, but I +wasn't worryin' none. All I wanted was to stay near de Connallys. Mos' +gen'ly all de slaves what I knowed was found places for and holp git a +start at jobs and places to live. All de Connally slaves loved dem. Some +de timber land give to Mrs. Rose Staten and when she go up dere a old +nigger woman name Lucy sees her. She so happy to see one dem Connally +chillen she laugh and cry. + +"Massa Jones Connally have de twin gals, name Ola and Ella. Olla born +with de lef' arm off at de elbow and she allus follow me round. When I +go to milk I puts her in de trough. I saved her life lots of times. One +time she's on de conb of de two-story house, when she's 'bout two years +old. I eases up and knocks de window out and coaxes her to come to me. +'Nother time, I's diggin' de well and some clods falls down and I looks +up and dere am dat Missy Ola leanin' over, mos' tumblin' in de well on +her head. I gives de loud yell and her brother-in-law come runnin' and +grabs her legs. + +"Senator Tom Connally, what am a son of Jones Connally, often says he'd +like to visit his grandpa's old home in Georgia. I'd like mighty well to +go with him and take him all over de old home place and out to de old +cemetary." + + + + +420079 + + +[Illustration: Valmar Cormier] + + + VALMAR CORMIER was born a slave to Duplissent Dugat, a small + slave-holder of Lafayette, Louisiana. He tells his story in a + mixture of English and French. As far as he knows, he is nearly 90 + years old. He now lives with his sister, Mary Moses, in the Pear + Orchard Settlement, in Beaumont, Texas. + + +"I 'member de day my old marster go to de war. I kin 'member dat jes' +like yesterday. He used to like to play de fiddle and make me dance when +I was li'l, but he went to de war and got kilt. He name Duplissent +Dugat. Mary, my sister, she don't 'member de old marster. + +"De slaves did de work on dat farm. Dey was two growed-ups, my mama, +Colaste, and my uncle, and dere was us two chillen. My father was a +white man, a white Creole man. I never carry he name till after freedom. + +"Marster was jes' a poor man and he have jes' a ordinary house. De slave +house was jes' a old plank house 'bout twelve feet by twenty feet and +have dirt floor. Us cook in de big fireplace and take a log 'bout four +foot long and have a big iron pot with a iron lid. Dey put red hot coals +under de pot and on top de lid and dey have a big iron poker with a hook +on it what dey took de lid off with. + +"Befo' dey have coal oil lamp dey used to use homemake candles. Dey'd +kill de brutes and keep and save all de tallow and one day was set off +to make de candles. All de neighbors come and dey have kind of party and +eat and things. Sometime dey make three, four hunnerd candles in one day +and lay dem in a big box, so dey won't git break. + +"Us make soap on de plantation, too. Dey melt de tallow and cracklin's +and git lye out de fireplace ash. We have cotton and corn and potatoes +growin', so we has plenty to eat. Us have coosh-coosh, dat cornbread and +meat, and some fish to eat. Snails us jes' go through de woods and pick +dem up and eat dem jes' like dat. Us eat plenty crawfish. De chillen git +string and old piece fat meat and tie on de end, and us go to de bog and +drap de string down dat crawfish hole. When de old man grab de meat with +he pincher, den us jerk us up a crawfish, and bile him in hot water, or +make de gumbo. + +"Us drink French coffee befo' de war, but endurin' de war us couldn't +git de good kind. Den us make coffee out of coffee weed. Dey parch dat +weed in de iron oven, grind it and put it in de iron pot. + +"I seed de sojers and I run under de house, I was so scared. Mary, she +hide under de bed in de house. De Yankees come take de cattle and went +'way with dem. I kin sho' rec'lect when dose sojers come and de road was +full goin' day and night. De Yankees find a lot of Confed'rate sojers +close to Duson, de other side of Rayne and dey captures lots and brung +dem back by dere. + +"After while it all over and dey told us we free, but my mama kep' +working for old missus after freedom, 'cause old marster, he kilt in dat +war. Den old missus die and left three li'l chillen, but I don't know +what happen to them, 'cause us go to another place and I plow and Mary +she he'p pick cotton. + +"I git marry at 20 and my first wife de French gal. We marry by de +priest in de church. Us have so many chillen us have to keep a map to +account for all dem, dere was 19 in all. We stays in Louisiana long +time, den come to Texas. + + + + +420296 + + + LAURA CORNISH was born on the plantation of Isaiah Day, near + Dayton, Texas. She "reckons I's 'bout twelve or maybe thirteen + years old when all de cullud folks was made free." Laura's memory + is poor, but she made an effort to recall slave days. She lives at + 2915 Nance St., Houston, Texas. + + +"Lawd have mercy 'pon me, when you calls me Aunt Laura it seems jes' +like you must be some of my white folks, 'cause dat what dey calls me. I +mean Papa Day's chillen and dere younguns, when dey comes to see me. But +it been de long time since any of dem come to see old Aunt Laura, and I +reckon dey most all gone now. + +"You know where Dayton is at? Well, dat's where Papa Day's plantation +was at and where I's borned. I don't know when dat am, 'zactly, but when +all de cullud folks was made free, I reckons I's 'bout twelve or +thirteen years old. + +"Mama's name was Maria Dunlap and daddy's name was Saul. Mamma was de +seamstress and don't do nothin' but weave cloth on de spinnin' wheel and +make clothes. Daddy from Lake Providence, I heared him say, but I don't +know where at dat is. He do all de carpenter work. I has five sisters +and two brothers, but dey heaps older dan me and I don't know much 'bout +dem. + +"We 'longs to Papa Day, his name Isaiah, but us all call him Papa Day, +'cause he won't 'low none he cullud folks to call him master. He say us +is born free as he is, only de other white folks won't tell us so, and +our souls is jes' as white, and de reason us am darker on de outside is +'cause us is sunburnt. I don't reckon dere am anybody as good to dere +cullud folks as he was. + +"Miss Martha, he wife, was mighty good, too. Does any us chillen git +hurt or scratched, she fix us up and give us a hug. I knows dey has two +boys and a gal, and dey comes to see me long time after I's free and +brings dere own chillen. But my mem'ry am sort of foggy-like and I can't +'member dere names now. + +"De only work Papa Day 'lows us chillen do am pick de boles close to de +ground, and dat mostly fun, and us ride to de house on de wagon what +takes de pickin' at night. Papa Day don't make he cullud folks work +Saturdays and Sundays and dey can visit round on other plantations, and +he say nobody better bother us none, either. + +"One time us chillen playin' out in de woods and seed two old men what +look like wild men, sho' 'nough. Dey has long hair all over de face and +dere shirts all bloody. Us run and tell Papa Day and he makes us take +him dere and he goes in de briar patch where dem men hidin'. Dey takes +him round de knees and begs him do he not tell dere massa where dey at, +'cause dey maybe git kilt. Dey say dey am old Lodge and Baldo and dey +run 'way 'cause dere massa whips dem, 'cause dey so old dey can't work +good no more. Papa Day has tears comin' in he eyes. Dey can't hardly +walk, so he sends dem to de house and has Aunt Mandy, de cook, fix up +somethin' to eat quick. I never seed sech eatin', dey so hongry. He puts +dem in a house and tells us not to say nothin'. Den he rides off on he +hoss and goes to dere massa and tells him 'bout it, and jes' dares him +to come git dem. He pays de man some money and Lodge and Baldo stays +with Papa Day and I guess day thunk dey in Heaven. + +"One mornin' Papa Day calls all us to de house and reads de freedom +papers and say, 'De gov'ment don't need to tell you you is free, 'cause +you been free all you days. If you wants to stay you can and if you +wants to go, you can. But if you go, lots of white folks ain't gwine +treat you like I does.' + +"For de longest time, maybe two years, dey wasn't none of Papa Day's +cullud folks what left, but den first one fam'ly den 'nother gits some +land to make a crop on, and den daddy gits some land and us leaves, too. +Maybe he gits de land from Papa Day, 'cause it an't far from his +plantation. Us sho' work hard on dat place, but I heared mama say lots +of times she wishes we stay on Papa Day's place. + +"I 'member one year us don't make no crop hardly and daddy say he gwine +git out 'fore us starves to death, and he moves to Houston. He gits a +job doin' carpenter work and hires me out for de housegirl. But mama +dies and daddy takes sick and dies, too. Lawd have mercy, dat sho' de +hard time for me when I loses my mama and daddy, and I has to go to +Dayton and stay with my sister, Rachel. Both my husbands what I marries +done been dead a long time now, and de only child I ever had died when +he jes' a baby. Now I's jes' alone, sittin' and waitin' for de Lawd to +call me." + + + + +420260 + + +[Illustration: John Crawford] + + + JOHN CRAWFORD, 81, was born a slave on Judge Thompson Rector's + plantation at Manor, Texas. After emancipation, John was a + share-cropper. He has always lived in Travis County and is now + cared for by a daughter at Austin. + + +"John Crawford am me. It am eighty-one years since I's borned and dat's +on de old Rector plantation where Manor am now. It wasn't dere den. I +knowed the man it was named after. + +"Ma's name was Viney Rector and the old judge brung her from Alabama. +She milked all the cows two times a day and I had to turn out all de +calves. Sometimes dey'd git purty rough and go right to dere mammies. + +"Pap's name was Tom Townes, 'cause he 'longed on de Townes place. He was +my step-pap and when I's growed I tooken my own pap's name, what was +Crawford. I never seed him, though, and didn't know nothin' much 'bout +him. He's sold away 'fore I's borned. + +"Pap Townes could make most everythin'. He made turnin' plows and +hossshoe nails and a good lot of furniture. He was purty good to me, +'siderin' he wasn't my own pap. I didn't have no hard time, noway. I had +plenty bacon and side-meat and 'lasses. Every Sunday mornin' the jedge +give us our rations for de week. He wasn't short with dem, neither. + +"Many was de time Injuns come to Jedge Rector's place. Dem Injuns beg +for somethin' and the jedge allus give dem somethin'. They wasn't mean +Injuns, jes' allus beggin'. + +"I can't read and write to this day. Nobody ever larnt me my A B C's and +I didn't git no chance at school. + +"On Christmas mornin' Massa Rector come out and give each man and woman +a big, red pocket handkerchief and a bottle of liquor. He buyed dat +liquor by de barrel and liked it hisself. Dat why he allus had it on de +place. + +"One mornin' the jedge done send word down by de cook for nobody to go +to de fields dat day. We all want up to de big house and de jedge git up +to make de speech, but am too choke up to talk. He hated to lose he +slaves, I reckon. So his son-in-law has to say, 'You folks am now free +and can go where you wants to go. You can stay here and pick cotton and +git fifty cents de hunerd.' But only two families stayed. De rest pulled +out. + +"After freedom we rented land on de halves. Some niggers soon got ahead +and rented on de third or fourth. When you rent that-a-way you git three +bales and de boss git one. But you has to buy you own teams and seed and +all on dat plan. + +"Its a fac' we was told we'd git forty acres and a mule. Dat de talk +den, but we never did git it. + +"De Ku Klux made a lot of devilment round-about dat county. Dey allus +chasin' some nigger and beatin' him up. But some dem niggers sho' 'serve +it. When dey gits free, dey gits wild. Dey won't work or do nothin' and +thinks dey don't have to. We didn't have no trouble, 'cause we stays on +de farm and works and don't have no truck with dem wild niggers. + +"In 1877 I marries Fannie Black at de town of Sprinkle. It wasn't sech a +town, jes' a li'l place. Me and her stayed married fifty-two years and +four months. She died and left me eight year ago. We had seven chillen +and they is all livin'. Four is here in Austin and two in California and +one in Ohio. + +"I gits a li'l pension, $9.00 de month, and my gal, Susie, takes care of +me. I ain't got long to go now 'fore de Lawd gwine call me. + + + + +420076 + + +[Illustration: Green Cumby] + + + GREEN CUMBY, 86, was born a slave of the Robert H. Cumby family, in + Henderson, Texas. He was about 14 at the close of the Civil War. He + stayed with his old master four years after he was freed, then + married and settled in Tyler, Texas, where he worked for the + compress 30 years. He lives with his daughter at 749 Mesquite St., + Abilene, Texas. + + +"Durin' slavery I had purty rough times. My grandfather, Tater Cumby, +was cullud overseer for forty slaves and he called us at four in de +mornin' and we worked from sun to sun. Most of de time we worked on +Sunday, too. + +"De white overseers whupped us with straps when we didn't do right. I +seed niggers in chains lots of times, 'cause there wasn't no jails and +they jus' chained 'em to trees. + +"Spec'lators on hosses drove big bunches of slaves past our place from +one place to another, to auction 'em at de market places. De women would +be carryin' l'il ones in dere arms and at night dey bed 'em down jus' +like cattle right on de ground 'side of de road. Lots of l'il chillun +was sold 'way from de mammy when dey seven or eight, or even smaller. +Dat's why us cullud folks don't know our kinfolks to dis day. + +"De best times was when de corn shuckin' was at hand. Den you didn't +have to bother with no pass to leave de plantation, and de patter rolls +didn't bother you. If de patter rolls cotch you without de pass any +other time, you better wish you dead, 'cause you would have yourself +some trouble. + +"But de corn shuckin', dat was de gran' times. All de marsters and dere +black boys from plantations from miles 'round would be dere. Den when we +got de corn pile high as dis house, de table was spread out under de +shade. All de boys dat 'long to old marster would take him on de +packsaddle 'round de house, den dey bring him to de table and sit by he +side; den all de boys dat 'long to Marster Bevan from another plantation +take him on de packsaddle 'round and 'round de house, allus singin' and +dancin', den dey puts him at de other side de table, and dey all do de +same till everybody at de table, den dey have de feast. + +"To see de runaway slaves in de woods scared me to death. They'd try to +snatch you and hold you, so you couldn't go tell. Sometimes dey cotched +dem runaway niggers and dey be like wild animals and have to be tamed +over 'gain. Dere was a white man call Henderson had 60 bloodhounds and +rents 'em out to run slaves. I well rec'lect de hounds run through our +place one night, chasin' de slave what kilt his wife by runnin' de +harness needle through her heart. Dey cotch him and de patter rolls took +him to Henderson and hangs him. + +"De patter rolls dey chases me plenty times, but I's lucky, 'cause dey +never cotched me. I slips off to see de gal on de nex' plantation and I +has no pass and they chases me and was I scairt! You should have seed me +run through dat bresh, 'cause I didn't dare go out on de road or de +path. It near tore de clothes off me, but I goes on and gits home and +slides under de house. But I'd go to see dat gal every time, patter +rolls or no patter rolls, and I gits trained so's I could run 'most as +fast as a rabbit. + +"De white chillun larned us to read and write at night, but I never paid +much 'tention, but I kin read de testament now. Other times at night de +slaves gathers round de cabins in little bunches and talks till bedtime. +Sometimes we'd dance and someone would knock out time for us by snappin' +de fingers and slappin' de knee. We didn't have nothin' to make de music +on. + +"We mos'ly lived on corn pone and salt bacon de marster give us. We +didn't have no gardens ourselves, 'cause we wouldn't have time to work +in dem. We worked all day in de fields and den was so tired we couldn't +do nothin' more. + +"My mammy doctored us when we was feelin' bad and she'd take dog-fenley, +a yaller lookin' weed, and brew tea, and it driv de chills and de fever +out of us. Sometimes she put horse mint on de pallet with us to make us +sweat and driv de fever 'way. For breakfast she'd make us sass' fras +tea, to clear our blood. + +"My marstar and his two step-sons goes to de war. De marster was a big +gen'ral on de southern side. I didn't know what dey fightin' 'bout for a +long time, den I heered it 'bout freedom and I felt like it be Heaven +here on earth to git freedom, 'spite de fac' I allus had de good +marster. He sho' was good to us, but you knows dat ain't de same as +bein' free. + + + + +420124 + + +[Illustration: Tempie Cummins] + + + TEMPIE CUMMINS was born at Brookeland, Texas, sometime before the + Civil War, but does not know her exact age. William Neyland owned + Tempie and her parents. She now lives alone in a small, + weather-beaten shack in the South Quarters, a section of Jasper, + Tex. + + +"They call me Tempie Cummins and I was born at Brookeland but I don' +know jus' the 'xact date. My father's name was Jim Starkins and my +mother's name was Charlotte Brooks and both of 'em come from Alabama. I +had jus' one brudder, Bill, and four sisters named Margaret and Hannah +and Mary and 'Liza. Life was good when I was with them and us play +round. Miss Fannie Neyland, she Mis' Phil Scarborough now, she raise me, +'cause I was give to them when I was eight year old. + +"I slep' on a pallet on the floor. They give me a homespun dress onct a +year at Christmas time. When company come I had to run and slip on that +dress. At other time I wore white chillens' cast-off clothes so wore +they was ready to throw away. I had to pin them up with red horse thorns +to hide my nakedness. My dress was usually split from hem to neck and I +had to wear them till they was strings. Went barefoot summer and winter +till the feets crack open. + +"I never seed my grandparents 'cause my mother she sold in Alabama when +she's 17 and they brung her to Texas and treat her rough. At mealtime +they hand me a piece of cornbread and tell me 'Run 'long.' Sometime I +git little piece of meat and biscuit, 'bout onct a month. I gathered up +scraps the white chillens lef'. + +"Marster was rough. He take two beech switches and twist them together +and whip 'em to a stub. Many's the time I's bled from them whippin's. +Our old mistus, she try to be good to us, I reckon, but she was turrible +lazy. She had two of us to wait on her and then she didn' treat us good. + +"Marster had 30 or 40 acres and he raise cotton, and corn and 'tatoes. +He used to raise 12 bales cotton a year and then drink it all up. We +work from daylight till dark, and after. Marster punish them what didn' +work hard enough. + +"The white chillen tries teach me to read and write but I didn' larn +much, 'cause I allus workin'. Mother was workin' in the house, and she +cooked too. She say she used to hide in the chimney corner and listen to +what the white folks say. When freedom was 'clared, marster wouldn' tell +'em, but mother she hear him tellin' mistus that the slaves was free but +they didn' know it and he's not gwineter tell 'em till he makes another +crop or two. When mother hear that she say she slip out the chimney +corner and crack her heels together four times and shouts, 'I's free, +I's free.' Then she runs to the field, 'gainst marster's will and tol' +all the other slaves and they quit work. Then she run away and in the +night she slip into a big ravine near the house and have them bring me +to her. Marster, he come out with his gun and shot at mother but she run +down the ravine and gits away with me. + +"I seed lots of ghosties when I's young. I couldn' sleep for them. I's +kind of outgrowed them now. But one time me and my younges' chile was +comin' over to church and right near the dippin' vat is two big gates +and when we git to them, out come a big old white ox, with long legs and +horns and when he git 'bout halfway, he turns into a man with a Panama +hat on. He follers us to Sandy Creek bridge. Sometimes at night I sees +that same spirit sittin' on that bridge now. + +"My old man say, in slavery time, when he's 21, he had to pass a place +where patterroles whipped slaves and had kilt some. He was sittin' on a +load of fodder and there come a big light wavin' down the road and +scarin' the team and the hosses drag him and near kilt him. + + + + +420070 + + +[Illustration: Adeline Cunningham] + + + ADELINE CUNNINGHAM, 1210 Florida St., born 1852, was a slave in + Lavaca County, 4-1/2 miles n.e. of Hallettsville. She was a slave + of Washington Greenlee Foley and his grandson, John Woods. The + Foley plantation consisted of several square leagues, each league + containing 4,428.4 acres. Adeline is tall, spare and primly erect, + with fiery brown eyes, which snap when she recalls the slave days. + The house is somewhat pretentious and well furnished. The day was + hot and the granddaughter prepared ice water for her grandmother + and the interviewer. House and porch were very clean. + + +"I was bo'n on ole man Foley's plantation in Lavaca County. He's got +more'n 100 slaves. He always buy slaves and he never sell. How many +acres of lan' he got? Lawd, dat man ain't got acres, he got leagues. Dey +raises cotton and co'n, and cattle and hawgs. Ole man Foley's plantation +run over Lavaca and Colorado county, he got 1600 acres in one block and +some of it on de Navidad River. Ole man Foley live in a big log house +wid two double rooms and a hall, and he build a weavin' house agin his +own house and dey's anudder house wid de spinnin' wheels. And ole man +Foley run his own cotton gin and his own grindin' mill where dey grinds +de co'n and dey got a big potato patch. + +"Dey was rough people and dey treat ev'ry body rough. We lives in de +quarter; de houses all jine close togedder but you kin walk 'tween 'em. +All de cabins has one room and mostly two fam'lies bunks togedder in de +one room wid dirt floors. De slaves builds de cabins, de slaves got no +money, dey got no land. + +"No suh, we never goes to church. Times we sneaks in de woods and prays +de Lawd to make us free and times one of de slaves got happy and made a +noise dat dey heered at de big house and den de overseer come and whip +us 'cause we prayed de Lawd to set us free. + +"You know what a stockman is? He is a man dat buys and sells cattle. +Ev'ry year de stockman comes to ole man Foley's and he lines us up in de +yard and de stockman got a lotta slaves tied togedder and ole man Foley +he buys some slaves but he won't sell none. Yassuh, de stockman buys and +sells de slaves jes' de same as cattle. + +"Dey feeds us well sometimes, if dey warn't mad at us. Dey has a big +trough jes' like de trough for de pigs and dey has a big gourd and dey +totes de gourd full of milk and dey breaks de bread in de milk. Den my +mammy takes a gourd and fills it and gives it to us chillun. How's we +eat it? We had oyster shells for spoons and de slaves comes in from de +fields and dey hands is all dirty, and dey is hungry. Dey dips de dirty +hands right in de trough and we can't eat none of it. De women wuks in +de fields until dey has chillun and when de chillun's ole enough to wuk +in de fields den de mother goes to ole man Foley's house. Dere she's a +house servant and wuks at spinnin' and weavin' de cotton. Dey makes all +de clothes for ole man Foley and his fam'ly and for de slaves. + +"No suh, we ain't got no holidays. Sundays we grinds co'n and de men +split rails and hoes wid de grubbin' hoe. Ole man Foley has a blacksmif +shop and a slave does de blacksmiffin. De slaves builds cabins wid split +logs and dey makes de roof tight wid co'n shucks and grass. One time a +month, times one time in two months, dey takes us to de white folks +church. + +"Dey's four or five preachers and de slaves. Iffen deys a marriage de +preacher has a book. He's gotter keep it hid, 'cause dey's afraid iffen +de slaves learns to read dey learns how to run away. One of de slaves +runs away and dey ketches him and puts his eyes out. Dey catches anudder +slave dat run away and dey hanged him up by de arm. Yassuh, I see dat +wid my own eyes; dey holds de slave up by one arm, dey puts a iron on +his knee and a iron on his feet and drag 'im down but his feet cain't +reach de groun'. + +"Ole man Foley ain't bad, but de overseers is mean. No suh, we never +gits no money and we never gits no lan'. Ole man Foley, he wants to give +us sumpin for gardens but Mr. John Woods, his gran'son, is agin it. + +"Was I glad when dat was over? Wouldn' you be? It's long after we's free +dat I gits married. Yassuh, and I live in San Antonio 'bout 20 years." + + + + +420035 + + +[Illustration: Will Daily's House] + +[Illustration: Will Daily] + + + WILL DAILY, was born in 1858 in Missouri, near the city of St. + Louis. He was a slave of the John Daily family and served as chore + boy around the house, carried the breakfast to the field and always + drove up the horses on the plantation. The latter duty developed a + fondness for horses which led to a career as a race horse rider and + trainer. He remained with his white folks several years after + freedom and in Missouri many years longer in this work. He came to + San Angelo, Texas in 1922 and took up hotel work which he followed + until his health broke, only a few years ago. He now lives in his + small home, in the colored district of the city and depends on his + old age pension for a livelihood. + + +"Huh! What you say, did you say somethin' 'bout de ole age pension?", +questioned Will when approached on the slavery question, but he answered +readily, "Sho! sho' I was a slave an' I aint ashamed to admit dat I +was. Some of dese here fellers thinks dey sounds ole when dey says dey +was slaves and dey denies it but I's proud enough of de good treatment +I's got, to allus tell about it. My marster had a driver but he say his +niggers was human, wid human feelin's, so he makes dat driver reports to +him fer what little thrashin's we gits. Course we had to do de right +thing but jes' some how did, mos' of de time 'cause he was good to us. +Soon as I was big enough, about four or five years ole, ole miss, she +starts trainin' me fer a house boy. I's a doin' all sorts of chores by +de time I was six years old. Den ole marster he starts sendin' me out on +de plantation to drive up de hosses. I sho' likes dat job 'cause aint +nothin' I loves any better den hosses. Den when I was bigger he starts +me to carryin' de breakfast to de field whar de grown niggers had been +out workin' since way 'fore day. Dey all done dat. Dey say de days +wasn't long enough to put in enough time so dey works part of de night. + +"We had good grub 'cause we raised all de co'n and de hogs and de cows +and chickens and plenty of everything. Mos' times we have biscuits and +bacon and syrup for breakfast and butter too if we wants it but mos' +niggers dey likes dat fat bacon de bes'. + +"Our log cabins was good and comfortable. Dey was all along in a row and +built out of de same kind of logs what our marsters house was. + +"We had good beds and dey was clean. + +"I nev'r had no money when I was a slave 'cause I was jes' a small boy +when de slaves was set free. + +"We had lots of fish and rabbits, more den we had 'possum but we sho' +likes dat 'possum when we could git it. + +"My marster had about three hundred slaves and a big plantation. + +"I seen some slaves sold off dat big auction block and de little chillun +sho' would be a cryin' when dey takes dere mothers away from dem. + +"We didn' have no jail 'cause my marster didn' believe dat way, but I's +seen other slaves in dem chains and things. + +"We didn' know nothin' 'bout no learnin' nor no church neither and when +de slaves die dey was jes' buried without no singin' or nothin'. + +"When de war started, my father, he goes and once I remember he comes +home on a furlough and we was all so glad, den when he goes back he gits +killed and we nev'r see him no mo'. + +"We had de doctor and good care when we was sick. I's don't remember +much 'bout what kinds of medicine we took but I's know it was mostly +home-made. + +"We all wears dat asafoetida on a string 'round our necks and sometimes +we carry a rabbit's foot in our pockets fer good luck. + +"When de war was ended and de slaves was free old Uncle Pete, our oldest +slave, comes a-walkin' up from de woods whar he always go to keeps from +bein' bothered, to read his Bible, and he had dat Bible under his arm +an' he say, 'I's know somethin', me an' de Lawd knows somethin'', and +den he tells us. He say, 'You all is free people now, you can go when +you please and come when you pleases and you can stay here or go some +other place'. Well I had to stay 'cause my mother stayed and I's jes' +keeps on ridin' dem race hosses 'til long after my marster was dead, den +I's gits me some hosses of my own and train other men's hosses too. + +"I's worked at dat racin' business 'til I's come to Texas and when I +went to work in hotels dat killed me up. I's done ev'r thing from makin' +soap fer de scrubbin', to cookin' de bes' meals fer de bes' hotels. I +aint been no good since, though, and I had to quit several years ago. + +"De first time I was married was to Phillis Reed in Missouri and we jes' +jumps over de broom, and after Phillis die and I comes to Texas I's gits +married again to Susie, here in San Angelo; we jes' jumps ov'r de broom +too. I's nev'r had no chillun of my own so I's jes' a settin' here +a-livin' off de ole age pension." + + + + +420029 + + +[Illustration: Julie Francis Daniels] + + + JULIA FRANCIS DANIELS, born in 1848, in Georgia, a slave of the + Denman family, who moved to Texas before the Civil War. Julia's + memory fails her when she tries to recall names and dates. She + still tries to take part in church activities and has recently + started to learn reading and writing. She lives with a daughter at + 2523 Spring St. Dallas, Texas. + + +"They's lots I disremembers and they's lots I remembers, like the year +the war's over and the fightin' all done with, 'cause that the year I +larned to plow and that the time I got married. That's the very year +they larned me to plow. I larnt all right, 'cause I wasn't one slow to +larn anything. Afore to that time, they ain't never had no hoe in the +field for me a-tall. I jes' toted water for the ones in the field. + +"I had plenty brothers and sisters, 'bout ten of 'em, but I disremembers +some they names. There was Tom and George and Marthy and Mandy, and +they's all name' Denman, 'cause my mammy and daddy was Lottie and Boyd +Denman and they come from Georgia to Cherokee County and then to Houston +County, near by to Crockett, with Old Man Denman. He was the one owned +all us till he 'vided some with Miss Lizzie when she marries Mr. Cramer. + +"My daddy worked in the fields with Uncle Lot and my brothers, and my +Uncle Joe, he's driver. But Briscoe am overseer and he a white man. He +can't never whup the growed mens like he wants, 'cause they don't let +him unless he ask Old Man Denman. I seed him whup 'em, though. He make +'em take off the shirt and whup with the strap. + +"Now, my mammy was cook in the Denman house and for our family and Uncle +Joe's family. She didn't have much time for anythin' but cookin' all the +time. But she's the bestes' cook. Us had fine greens and hawgs and beef. +Us et collard greens and pork till us got skittish of it and then they +quit the pork and kilt a beef. When they done that, they's jus' pourin' +water on our wheels, 'cause us liked best of anythin' the beef, and I do +to this day, only I can't never git it. + +"Old Man Denman had a boy what kilt squirrels and throwed 'em in the +kitchen. The white folks et them. You ain't never seen no white folks +then would eat rabbit. I had a brother who hunted. Mostly on Sundays. +He'd leave for the swamps 'fore daybreak and we'd know when we'd hear +him callin', 'O-o-o-o-o-da-da-ske-e-e-e-t,' he had somethin'. That jus' +a make-up of he own, but we knowed they's rabbits for the pot. + +"All the mens don't hunt on Sunday, 'cause Uncle Joe helt meetin' in +front he house. Us look out the door and seed Uncle Joe settin' the +benches straight and settin' he table out under the trees and sweepin' +clean the leaves and us know they's gwine be meetin'. They's the +loveliest days that ever they was. Night times, too, they'd make it +'tween 'em whether it'd be at our house or Uncle Joe's. We'd ask niggers +from other farms and I used to say, 'I likes meetin' jus' as good as I +likes a party.' + +"When crops is laid by us have the most parties and dence and sing and +have play games. The reels is what I used to like but I done quit that +foolishness many a year ago. I used to cut a step or two. I remembers +one reel call the 'Devil's Dream.' It's a fast song + +"'Oh, de Devil drempt a dream, +He drempt it on a Friday-- +He drempt he cotch a sinner.' + +"Old Man Denman am the great one for 'viding he property and when Miss +Lizzie marries with Mr. Creame Cramer, which am her dead sister's +husband, Old Man Denman give me and two my sisters to Miss Lizzie and he +gives two more my sisters to he son. Us goes with Miss Lizzie to the +Cramer place and lives in the back yard in a little room by the back +door. + +"Everything fine and nice there till one day Miss Lizzie say to me, +'Julia, go down to the well and fetch me some water,' and I goes and I +seed in the road a heap of men all in gray and ridin' hosses, comin' our +way. I runs back to the house and calls Miss Lizzie. She say, 'What you +scairt for?' I tells her 'bout them men and she say they ain't gwine +hurt me none, they jus' wants some water. I goes back to the well and +heared 'em talk 'bout a fight. I goes back to the house and some of the +mens comes to the gate and says to Mr. Cramer, 'How're you, Creame?' He +say, 'I's all right in my health but I ain't so good in my mind.' They +says, 'What the matter, Creame?' He say, 'I want to be in the fight so +bad.' + +"When they goes I asks Miss Lizzie what they fightin' 'bout and she say +it am 'bout money. That all I knows. Right after that Mr. Cramer goes +and we don't never see him no more. Word come back from the fightin' he +makes some the big, high mens mad and they puts chains 'round he ankles +and make him dig a stump in the hot sun. He ain't used to that and it +give him fever to the brain and he dies. + +"When Mr. Cramer goes 'way, Miss Lizzie takes us all and goes back to +Old Man Denman's. The sojers used to pass and all the whoopin' and +hollerin' and carryin' on, you ain't never heered the likes! They +hollers, 'Who-o-o-o, Old Man Denman, how's your chickens?' And they +chunks and throws at 'em till they cripples 'em up and puts 'em in they +bags, for cookin'. Old Man Denman cusses at 'em somethin' powerful. + +"My sister Mandy and me am down in the woods a good, fur piece from the +house and us keeps heerin' a noise. My brother comes down and finds me +and say, 'Come git your dinner.' When I gits there dinner am top the +gate post and he say they's sojers in the woods and they has been +persecutin' a old woman on a mule. She was a nigger woman. I gits so +scairt I can't eat my dinner. I ain't got no heart for victuals. My +brother say, 'Wait for pa, he comin' with the mule and he'll hide you +out.' I gits on the mule front of pa and us pass through the sojers and +they grabs at us and says, 'Gimme the gal, gimme the gal.' Pa say I +faints plumb 'way. + +"Us heered guns shootin' round and 'bout all the time. Seems like they +fit every time they git a chance. Old Man Denman's boy gits kilt and two +my sisters he property and they don't know what to do, 'cause they has +to be somebody's property and they ain't no one to 'heritance 'em. They +has to go to the auction but Old Man Denman say not to fret. At the +auction the man say, 'Goin' high, goin' low, goin' mighty slow, a little +while to go. Bid 'em in, bid 'em in. The sun am high, the sun am hot, us +got to git home tonight.' An old friend of Old Man Denman's hollers out +he buys for William Blackstone. Us all come home and my sisters too and +Old Man Denman laugh big and say, 'My name allus been William Blackstone +Denman.' + +"I's a woman growed when the war was to a end. I had my first baby when +I's fourteen. One day my sister call me and say, 'They's fit out, and +they's been surrenderin' and ain't gwine fight no more.' That dusk Old +Man Denman call all us niggers together and stand on he steps and make +he speech, 'Mens and womans, you is free as I am. You is free to go +where you wants but I is beggin' yous to stay by me till us git the +crops laid by.' Then he say, 'Study it over 'fore you gives me you +answer. I is always try as my duty to be fair to you.' + +"The mens talks it over a-twixt theyselves and includes to stay. They +says us might as well stay there as go somewhere else, and us got no +money and no place to go. + +"Then Miss Lizzie marries with Mr. Joe McMahon and I goes with her to he +house near by and he say he larn me to plow. Miss Lizzie say, 'Now, +Julia, you knows how to plow and don't make no fool of yourself and act +like you ain't never seed no plow afore.' Us make a corn crop and goes +on 'bout same as afore. + +"I gits married that very year and has a little fixin' for the weddin', +bakes some cakes and I have a dress with buttons and a preacher marries +me. I ain't used to wearin' nothin' but loring (a simple one piece +garment made from sacking). Unnerwear? I ain't never wore no unnerwear +then. + +"My husband rents a little piece of land and us raise a corn crop and +that's the way us do. Us raises our own victuals. I has 17 chillen +through the year and they done scatter to the four winds. Some of them +is dead. I ain't what I used to be for workin'. I jus' set 'round. I +done plenty work in my primer days. + + + + +420015 + + +[Illustration: Katie Darling] + + + KATIE DARLING, about 88, was born a slave on the plantation of + William McCarty, on the Elysian Fields Road, nine miles south of + Marshall, Texas. Katie was a nurse and housegirl in the McCarty + household until five years after the end of the Civil War. She then + moved to Marshall and married. Her husband and her three children + are dead and she is supported by Griffin Williams, a boy she found + homeless and reared. They live in a neat three-room shack in Sunny + South addition of Marshall, Texas. + + +"You is talkin' now to a nigger what nussed seven white chillen in them +bullwhip days. Miss Stella, my young missy, got all our ages down in she +Bible, and it say I's born in 1849. Massa Bill McCarty my massa and he +live east and south of Marshall, clost to the Louisiana line. Me and my +three brudders, Peter and Adam and Willie, all lives to be growed and +married, but mammy die in slavery and pappy run 'way while he and Massa +Bill on they way to the battle of Mansfield. Massa say when he come back +from the war, 'That triflin' nigger run 'way and jines up with them damn +Yankees.' + +"Massa have six chillen when war come on and I nussed all of 'em. I +stays in the house with 'em and slep' on a pallet on the floor, and soon +I's big 'nough to tote the milk pail they puts me to milkin', too. Massa +have more'n 100 cows and most the time me and Violet do all the milkin'. +We better be in that cowpen by five o'clock. One mornin' massa cotched +me lettin' one the calves do some milkin' and he let me off without +whippin' that time, but that don't mean he allus good, 'cause them cows +have more feelin' for than massa and missy. + +"We et peas and greens and collards and middlin's. Niggers had better +let that ham alone! We have meal coffee. They parch meal in the oven and +bile it and drink the liquor. Sometime we gits some of the Lincoln +coffee what was lef' from the nex' plantation. + +"When the niggers done anything massa bullwhip them, but didn't skin +them up very often. He'd whip the man for half doin' the plowin' or +hoein' but if they done it right he'd find something else to whip them +for. At night the men had to shuck corn and the women card and spin. Us +got two pieces of clothes for winter and two for summer, but us have no +shoes. We had to work Saturday all day and if that grass was in the +field we didn't git no Sunday, either. + +"They have dances and parties for the white folks' chillen, but missy +say, 'Niggers was made to work for white folks,' and on Christmas Miss +Irene bakes two cakes for the nigger families but she darsn't let missy +know 'bout it. + +"When a slave die, massa make the coffin hisself and send a couple +niggers to bury the body and say, 'Don't be long,' and no singin' or +prayin' 'lowed, jus' put them in the ground and cover 'em up and hurry +on back to that field. + +"Niggers didn't cou't then like they do now, massa pick out a po'tly man +and a po'tly gal and jist put 'em together. What he want am the stock. + +"I 'member that fight at Mansfield like it yes'day. Massas's field am +all tore up with cannon holes and ever' time a cannon fire, missy go off +in a rage. One time when a cannon fire, she say to me, 'You li'l black +wench, you niggers ain't gwine be free. You's made to work for white +folks.' 'Bout that time she look up and see a Yankee sojer standin' in +the door with a pistol. She say, 'Katie, I didn't say anythin', did I?' +I say, 'I ain't tellin' no lie, you say niggers ain't gwine git free.' + +"That day you couldn't git 'round the place for the Yankees and they +stays for weeks at a time. + +"When massa come home from the war he wants let us loose, but missy +wouldn't do it. I stays on and works for them six years after the war +and missy whip me after the war jist like she did 'fore. She has a +hun'erd lashes laid up for me now, and this how it am. My brudders done +lef' massa after the war and move nex' door to the Ware place, and one +Saturday some niggers come and tell me my brudder Peter am comin' to git +me 'way from old missy Sunday night. That night the cows and calves got +together and missy say it my fault. She say, 'I'm gwine give you one +hun'erd lashes in the mornin', now go pen them calves.' + +"I don't know whether them calves was ever penned or not, 'cause Peter +was waitin' for me at the lot and takes me to live with him on the Ware +place. I's so happy to git away from that old devil missy, I don't know +what to do, and I stays there sev'ral years and works out here and there +for money. Then I marries and moves here and me and my man farms and +nothin' 'citin' done happened." + + + + +420046 + + +[Illustration: Carey Davenport] + + + CAREY DAVENPORT, retired Methodist minister of Anahuac, Texas, + appears sturdy despite his 83 years. He was reared a slave of Capt. + John Mann, in Walker Co., Texas. His wife, who has been his devoted + companion for 60 years, was born in slavery just before + emancipation. Carey is very fond of fishing and spends much time + with hook and line. He is fairly well educated and is influential + among his fellow Negroes. + + +"If I live till the 13th of August I'll be 82 years old. I was born in +1855 up in Walker County but since then they split the county and the +place I was born is just across the line in San Jacinto County now. Jim +and Janey Davenport was my father and mother and they come from +Richmond, Virginia. I had two sisters, Betty and Harriet, and a half +brother, William. + +"Our old master's name was John Mann but they called him Capt. Mann. Old +missus' name was Sarah. I'd say old master treated us slaves bad and +there was one thing I couldn't understand, 'cause he was 'ligious and +every Sunday mornin' everybody had to git ready and go for prayer. I +never could understand his 'ligion, 'cause sometimes he git up off his +knees and befo' we git out the house he cuss us out. + +"All my life I been a Methodist and I been a regular preacher 43 years. +Since I quit I been livin' here at Anahuac and seems like I do 'bout as +much preachin' now as I ever done. + +"I don't member no cullud preachers in slavery times. The white +Methodist circuit riders come round on horseback and preach. There was a +big box house for a church house and the cullud folks sit off in one +corner of the church. + +"Sometimes the cullud folks go down in dugouts and hollows and hold they +own service and they used to sing songs what come a-gushin' up from the +heart. + +"They was 'bout 40 slaves on the place, but I never seed no slaves +bought or sold and I never was sold, but I seen 'em beat--O, Lawd, yes. +I seen 'em make a man put his head through the crack of the rail fence +and then they beat him till he was bloody. They give some of 'em 300 or +400 licks. + +"Old man Jim, he run away lots and sometimes they git the dogs after +him. He run away one time and it was so cold his legs git frozen and +they have to cut his legs off. Sometimes they put chains on runaway +slaves and chained 'em to the house. I never knowed of 'em puttin' bells +on the slaves on our place, but over next to us they did. They had a +piece what go round they shoulders and round they necks with pieces up +over they heads and hung up the bell on the piece over they head. + +"I was a sheep minder them days. The wolves was bad but they never +tackled me, 'cause they'd ruther git the sheep. They like sheep meat +better'n man meat. Old Captain wanted me to train he boy to herd sheep +and one day young master see a sow with nine pigs and want me to catch +them and I wouldn't do it. He tried to beat me up and when we git to the +lot we have to go round to the big gate and he had a pine knot, and he +catch me in the gate and hit me with that knot. Old Captain sittin' on +the gallery and he seed it all. When he heered the story he whipped +young master and the old lady, she ain't like it. + +"One time after that she sittin' in the yard knittin' and she throwed +her knittin' needle off and call me to come git it. I done forgot she +wanter whip me and when I bring the needle she grab me and I pull away +but she hold on my shirt. I run round and round and she call her mother +and they catch and whip me. My shirt just had one button on it and I was +pullin' and gnawin' on that button and directly it come off and the +whole shirt pull off and I didn't have nothin' on but my skin. I run and +climb up on the pole at the gate and sot there till master come. He say, +'Carey, why you sittin' up there?' Then I tell him the whole +transaction. I say, 'Missus, she whip me 'cause young marse John git +whip that time and not me.' He make me git down and git up on his horse +behin' him and ride up to the big house. Old missus, she done went to +the house and go to bed with her leg, 'cause when she whippin' me she +stick my head 'tween her knees and when she do that I bit her. + +"Old master's house was two-story with galleries. My mother, she work in +the big house and she have a purty good house to live in. It was a plank +house, too, but all the other houses was make out of hewed logs. Then my +father was a carpenter and old master let him have lumber and he make he +own furniture out of dressed lumber and make a box to put clothes in. We +never did have more'n two changes of clothes. + +"My father used to make them old Carey plows and was good at makin' the +mould board out of hardwood. He make the best Carey plows in that part +of the country and he make horseshoes and nails and everything out of +iron. And he used to make spinning wheels and parts of looms. He was a +very valuable man and he make wheels and the hub and put the spokes in. + +"Old master had a big farm and he raised cotton and corn and 'taters and +peanuts and sorghum cane and some ribbon cane. The bigges' crops was +cotton and corn. + +"My father told us when freedom come. He'd been a free man, 'cause he +was bodyguard to the old, old master and when he died he give my father +he freedom. That was over in Richmond, Virginia. But young master steal +him into slavery again. So he was glad when freedom come and he was free +again. Old master made arrangement for us to stay with him till after +the harvest and then we go to the old Rawls house what 'long to Mr. Chiv +Rawls. He and my father and mother run the place and it was a big farm. + +"I git marry when I was 'bout 22 years old and that's her right there +now. We's been married more'n 60 years and she was 17 years old then. +She was raised in Grant's colony and her father was a blacksmith. + +"We had it all 'ranged and we stop the preacher one Sunday mornin' when +he was on the way to preachin' and he come there to her pa's house and +marry us. We's had 11 children and all has deceased but three. + +"I was educated since freedom, 'cause they wasn't no schools in slavery +days, but after I was freed I went to public schools. Most my learnin' I +got from a German man what was principal of a college and he teach me +the biggest part of my education. + +"When I was 14 a desperado killed my father and then I had my mother and +her eight children to take care of. I worked two months and went to +school one month and that way I made money to take care of 'em. + + + + +420215 + + +[Illustration: Campbell Davis] + + + CAMPBELL DAVIS, 85, was born in Harrison Co., Texas, a slave of + Henry Hood. He remained on the Hood place about three years after + he was freed, then farmed in Louisiana. In 1873 he married and + moved back to Harrison Co., where he farmed until old age forced + him to stop. He now lives with his nephew, Billie Jenkins, near + Karnack. Campbell receives a $12.00 per month old age pension. + + +"I's big 'nough in slavery time to hear dem tell de darkies to get up +and go in the mornin', and to hear the whistlin' of dem whips and +howlin' of de dogs. I's birthed up in the northeast part of this county +right on the line of Louisiana and Texas, and 'longed to old man Henry +Hood. My mammy and daddy was Campbell and Judy Davis and dey both come +from Alabama, and was brung here by de traders and sold to Massa Hood. +They was nine of us chillen, name Ellis and Hildaman and Henderson and +Henrietta and Georgia and Harriet and Patsy. + +"Massa Henry didn't have de fine house but it a big one. Us quarters sot +off 'cross de field in de edge of a skit of woods. Dey have dirt floors +and a fireplace and old pole and plank bunks nail to de walls. + +"Dey fed us beef and veg'tables--any kind, jus' name it--and 'low us sop +bread in potlicker till de world look level. Dat good eatin' and all my +life I ain't have no better. + +"Massa didn't 'low no overseer on he place. One my uncles de driver, and +massa blow de old conk shell long 'fore day, and if de darkies didn't +git goin' you'd hear dem whips crackin'. + +"I seed one my sisters whip 'cause she didn't spin 'nough. Dey pull de +clothes down to her waist and laid her down on de stomach and lash her +with de rawhide quirt. I's in de field when dey whips my Uncle Lewis for +not pickin' 'nough cotton. De driver pull he clothes down and make him +lay on de groun'. He wasn't tied down, but he say he scart to move. + +"De women am off Friday afternoon to wash clothes and all de hands git +Saturday afternoon and mos' de man go huntin' or fishin'. Sometimes dey +have parties Saturday night and couples git on de floor and have music +of de fiddle and banjo. I only 'members one ring play: + +"Hop light, li'l lady, +The cakes all dough, +Don't mind de weather, +Jus' so de wind don't blow. + +"De bigges' day to blacks and whites was fourth of July. De hands was +off all day and massa give de big dinner out under de trees. He allus +barbecue de sheep or beef and have cakes and pies and fancy cookin'. +He's one de bes' bosses round dat country. He 'lieve in makin' dem work +and when dey need whippin' he done it, but when it come to feedin' he +done dat right, too. And on Christmas he give us clothes and shoes and +nuts and things and 'nother big dinner, and on Christmas night de +darkies sing songs for de white folks. + +"Us git some book larnin' 'mongst ourselves, round de quarters, and have +our own preacher. Mos' de time us chillen play, makin' frog holes in de +sand and mud people and things. + +"I done hear lots of talk 'bout ghosts and hants and think I seed one +onct. I's comin' home from de neighbors at night, in de moonlight, and +'rectly I seed something white by side de road. De closer I gits de +bigger it gits. I's scart but I walks up to it and it nothin' but de big +spiderweb on de bush. Den I says to myself, 'Dere ain't nothin' to dis +ghost business.' + +"Massa have one son go to war and he taken a old cullud man with him. I +seed soldiers on hosses comin' and goin' de big road, and lots of dem +come to Port Caddo in boats. De pretties' sight I ever seed am a soldier +band all dress in de uniforms with brass buttons. When de soldiers come +back from de war dey throwed cannon balls 'long de road and us chillen +play with dem. + +"When de war am over, massa call us all and say we's free, but can stay +on and work for de victuals and clothes. A bunch leaves and go to de +Progoe Marshal at Shreveport and ask him what to do. He tell dem to go +back and wait till dey find work some place. My mammy and me stays at de +Hood place 'bout three years. When I's twenty-one I marries and come +back to Harrison County. Mammy and me done farm in Louisiana up to dat. +My wife and me marries under de big oak tree front of de Leigh Church. +Us jus' common folks and doesn't have no infair or big to-do when us +marry. + +"I's voted but our people won't pull together. I votes de 'publican +ticket de long time, but last time I pulls over and votes de Democrat +ticket. I 'cides I jus' as well go with de braves as stay with de scart. + +"If de young gen'ration would study dey could make something out +deyselves, but dey wont do it. Dey am too wild. Jus' last week, I hears +de young cullud preacher at Karnack say, 'Brudders and sisters, style +and brightness am what we needs today.' I looks at him and says to +myself, 'Thank de Lawd I knows better'n dat.' When I's comin' up it am +dark, but I knows better things am ahead for us people and us trusts in +de Lawd and was hones' with our white folks and profits by what dey +tells us. Dey wasn't no niggers sent to jail when I's comin' up. It dis +'style and brightness' what gits de young niggers in trouble. Dey got de +dark way 'head of dem, less dey stops and studies and make somethin' out +deyselves." + + + + +420294 + + + WILLIAM DAVIS was born near Kingston, Tennessee, on the first of + April, 1845. His family were the only slaves owned by Jonathan + Draper, Baptist minister. In 1869 William joined the army and was + stationed at Fort Stockton, Texas. He has lived in Houston since + 1870. William is active and takes a long, daily walk. + + +"Well, suh, jes' sit down in de chair yonder and I'll tell you what I +can 'bout times back yonder. Let's see, now. I was born on de first day +of April in 1845. De reason I knows was 'cause Miss Lizzie, our missy, +told me so when we was sot free. Mammy done told me I was born den, on +de Tennessee river, near Kingston. I heared her say de turnpike what run +past Massa John's house dere goes over de mountain to Bristol, over in +Virginny. Mammy and pappy and all us chillen 'long to de Drapers, Massa +Jonathan what us call Massa John, and he wife, Miss Lizzie, and we is de +only cullud folks what dey owns. + +"Massa John am de Baptist preacher, and while I'm sho' glad to see my +folks sot free, I'll tell de truth and say Massa John and Miss Lizzie +was mighty good to us. Dey have four chillen; Massa Milton, what am +oldes' and kill in de first battle; Massa Bob and Massa George and Massa +Canero. Oh, yes, dey have one gal, Missy Ann. + +"Course us didn't have no last names like now. Mammy named Sophie and +pappy named Billy. Sometimes de owners give de slaves last names +'cordin' to what dey do, like pappy was meat cook and mammy cook pies +and cakes and bread, so dey might have Cook for de last name. + +"We has a bigger family dan Massa John, 'cause dey eight of us chillen. +I ain't seen none of dem since I lef' Virginny in 1869, but I 'member +all de names. Dere was Jane and Lucy and Ellen and Bob and Solomon and +Albert and John, and I'm de younges' de whole lot. + +"I heared Miss Lizzie tell some white folks dat my mammy and pappy give +to her by her pappy in Alabama when she get married. Dat de custom with +rich folks den, and mammy 'long to de Ames, what was Miss Lizzie's name +'fore she marry. I heared her say when de stars falls, I think she say +in 1832, she was 'bout eighteen, and dey think de world am endin'. + +"Pappy was a Indian. I knows dat. He came from Congo, over in Africa, +and I heared him say a big storm druv de ship somewhere on de Ca'lina +coast. I 'member he mighty 'spectful to Massa and Missy, but he proud, +too, and walk straighter'n anybody I ever seen. He had scars on de right +side he head and cheek what he say am tribe marks, but what dey means I +don't know. + +"'Bout de first I 'members real good am where we am in Virginny and +Massa John runs de Washington College, in Washington County. I 'member +all de pupils eats at massa's house and dat de first job I ever had. +'Scuse me for laughin', but I don't reckon I thunk of dat since de Lawd +know when. Dat my first job. Dey has a string fasten to de wall on one +side de room, with pea fowl tail feathers strung 'long it, and it runs +most de length de room, above de dinin' table, and round a pulley-like +piece in de ceilin' with one end de string hangin' down. When mealtime +come, I am put where de string hang down and I pulls it easy like, and +de feathers swishes back and forth sideways, and keeps de flies from +lightin' while folks am eatin'. 'Ceptin' dat, all I does is play round +with Massa George and Missy Ann. + +"Dey ain't no whuppin' on our place and on Sunday us all go to church, +and Massa John do de preachin'. Dey rides in de buggy and us follow in +de wagon. De white folks sets in front de church and us in back. + +"I can't tell you how long us stay at de college, 'zactly, but us moves +to Warm Springs to take de baths and drink de water, in Scott County. +Dat two, three years befo' de war, and Massa John run de hotel and +preach on Sunday. I think dere am three springs, one sulphur water and +one lime water and one a warm spring. I does a little bit of everything +round de hotel, helps folks off de stage when it druv up, wait on table +and sich. When I hears de horn blow--you know, de stage driver blow it +when dey top de hill 'bout two miles 'way, to let you know dey comin'--I +sho' hustle round and git ready to meet it, 'cause most times folks what +I totes de grips for gives me something. Dat de first money I ever seed. +Some de folks gives me de picayune--dat what us call a nickel, now, and +some gives me two shillin's, what same as two-bits now. A penny was big +den, jes' like a two-bit piece, now. + +"But when war begin 'tween de Yankees and de South, it sho' change +everything up, 'cause folks quit comin' to de Springs and de soldiers +takes over de place. Massa Milton go to jine de South Army and gits +kill. Morgan and he men make de Springs headquarters most de war, till +de Yankees come marchin' through toward de last part. I know pappy say +dem Yankees gwine win, 'cause dey allus marchin' to de South, but none +de South soldiers marches to de North. He didn't say dat to de white +folks, but he sho' say it to us. When de Yankees come marchin' through, +de Morgan soldiers jes' hide out till dey gone. Dey never done no +fightin' round Warm Springs. Lots of times dey goes way for couple weeks +and den comes back and rests awhile. + +"Den one mornin'--I 'members it jes' like it yestiddy, it de fourth of +July in 1865--Miss Lizzie say to me, 'Willie, I wants you to git you +papa and de rest de family and have dem come to de porch right away.' I +scurries round quick like and tells dem and she comes out of de house +and says, 'Now, de Yankees done sot you free and you can do what you +wants, but you gwineter see more carpet baggers and liars dan you ever +has seed, and you'll be worse off den you ever has been, if you has +anythin' to do with dem. Den she opens de book and tells us all when us +born and how old us am, so us have some record 'bout ourselves. She +tells me I'm jes' nineteen and one fourth years old when I'm sot free. + +"She tell pappy Massa John want to see him in de house and when he comes +out he tells us Massa John done told him to take a couple wagons and de +family and go to de farm 'bout ten miles 'way on Possum Creek and work +it and stay long as he wants. Massa has us load up one wagon with +'visions. Pappy made de first crop with jes' hoes, 'cause us didn't have +no hosses or mules to plow with. Us raise jes' corn and some wheat, but +dey am fruit trees, peaches and apples and pears and cherries. Massa +John pay pappy $120 de year, 'sides us 'visions, and us stays dere till +pappy dies in 1868. + +"Den I heared 'bout de railroad what dey buildin' at Knoxville and I +leaves de folks and gits me de job totin' water. Dey asks my name and I +says William Davis, 'cause I knows Mr. Jefferson Davis am President of +de South durin' de war, and I figgers it a good name. In 1869 I goes to +Nashville and 'lists in de army. I'm in de 24th Infantry, Company G, and +us sent to Fort Stockton to guard de line of Texas, but all us do am +build 'dobe houses. Col. Wade was de commander de fort and Cap'n +Johnson was captain of G. Co. Out dere I votes for de first time, for +Gen. Grant, when Greeley and him run for president. But I gits sick at +de Fort and am muster out in 1870 and comes to Houston. + +"I gits me de deckhand job on de Dinah, de steamboat what haul freight +and passengers 'tween Galveston and Houston. Den I works on de Lizzie, +what am a bigger boat. Course, Houston jes' a little bit of place to +what it am now--dey wasn't no git buildin's like dey is now, and mud, I +tell you de streets was jes' like de swamp when it rain. + +"Long 'bout 1875 I gits marry to Mary Jones, but she died in 1883 and I +gits marry 'gain in 1885 to Arabelle Wilson and has four girls and one +boy from her. She died 'bout ten years back. Course, us cullud folks +marry jes' like white folks do now, but I seen cullud folks marry 'fore +de war and massa marry dem dis way: dey goes in de parlor and each carry +de broom. Dey lays de brooms on de floor and de woman put her broom +front de man and he put he broom front de woman. Dey face one 'nother +and step 'cross de brooms at de same time to each other and takes hold +of hands and dat marry dem. Dat's de way dey done, sho', 'cause I seed +my own sister marry dat way. + +"I has wished lots of times to go back and see my folks, but I never has +been back and never seed dem since I left, and I guess dey am all gone +'long 'fore now. I has jobbed at first one thing and 'nother and like +pappy tells me, I has trials and tribulations and I has good chillen +what ain't never got in no trouble and what all helps take care dere old +pappy so I guess I ain't got no complainin' 'bout things. + +"I dreams sometimes 'bout de peach trees and de pear trees and de cherry +trees and I'd give lots to see de mountains 'gain, 'cause when de frost +come, 'bout now, de leaves on de trees put on pretty colors and de +persimmons and nuts is ready for pickin' and a little later on us kill +de hawgs and put by de meat for de winter. + +"De Lawd forgive me for dis foolishness, 'cause I got a good home, and +has all I need, but I gits to thinkin' 'bout Virginny sometimes and my +folks what I ain't seed since I left, and it sho' make me want to see it +once more 'fore I die. + + + + +420281 + + + ELI DAVISON was born in Dunbar, West Virginia, a slave of Will + Davison. Eli has a bill of sale that states he was born in 1844. + His master moved to Texas in 1858, and settled in Madison County. + Eli lives in Madisonville, with one of his sons. + + +"My first Old Marse was Will Davison. My father's name was Everett Lee +and mama was Susan, and he come to see her twict a month, 'cause he was +owned by 'nother master. + +"Marse Davison had a good home in West Virginia, where I's born, in +Dunbar, but most of it 'longed to he wife and she was the boss of him. +He had a great many slaves, and one mornin' he got up and 'vided all he +had and told his wife she could have half the slaves. Then we loaded two +wagons and he turned to his oldest son and the next son and said, 'You's +gwine with me. Crawl on.' Then he said to he wife, 'Elsie, you can have +everything here, but I'm takin' Eli and Alex and these here two +chillen.' The other two gals and two boys he left, and pulled out for +Texas. It taken us mos' two years to git here, and Marse Will never sot +eyes on the rest of his family no more, long as he lived. + +"Marse never married any more. He'd say, 'They ain't 'nother woman under +the sun I'd let wear my name.' He never said his wife's name no more, +but was allus talkin' of them chillun he done left behind. + +"We gits here and starts to build a one room log house for Marse Will +and his two boys. My quarters was one them covered wagons, till he +trades me off. He cried like a baby, but he said, 'I hate to do this, +but its the only way I'll have anything to leave for my two boys.' Looks +like everything done go 'gainst him when he come to Texas, and he took +sick and died. The boys put him away nice and loaded up and went back +to Virginia, but the home was nailed up and farm lying out, and it took +them mos' a year to find they folks. The mother and one gal was dead, so +they come back and lived and died here in Texas. + +"Marse Will was one more good man back in Virginia. He never got mad or +whipped a slave. He allus had plenty to eat, with 1,200 acres, but after +we come here all we had to eat was what we kilt in the woods and +cornbread. He planted seven acres in corn, but all he did was hunt deer +and squirrels. They was never a nigger what tried to run off in Texas, +'cause this was a good country, plenty to eat by huntin' and not so cold +like in Virginia. + +"After I was traded off, my new master wasn't so good to me. He thunk +all the time the South would win that war and he treated us mean. His +name was Thomas Greer. He kept tellin' us a black nigger never would be +free. When it come, he said to us, 'Well, you black ----, you are just +as free as I am.' He turnt us loose with nothin' to eat and mos' no +clothes. He said if he got up nex' mornin' and found a nigger on his +place, he'd horsewhip him. + +"I don't know what I'd done, but one my old Marse Will's chillun done +settle close by and they let me work for them, and built me a log house +and I farmed on halves. They stood good for all the groceries I buyed +that year. It took all I made that year to pay my debts and that's the +way its been ever since. + +"I married Sarah Keys. We had a home weddin' and 'greed to live together +as man and wife. I jus' goes by her home one day and captures her like. +I puts her on my saddle behind me and tells her she's my wife then. +That's all they was to my weddin'. We had six chillun and they's all +farmin' round here. Sarah, she dies seventeen years ago and I jus' lives +round with my chillen, 'cause I's too old to do any work. + +"All I ever done was to farm. That's all this here nigger knew what to +do. O, I's seed the time when I never had nothin' to eat and my big +bunch of chillun cryin' for bread. I could go to the woods then, but you +can't git wild game no more. In them days it was five or ten mile to +your nearest neighbor, but now they's so close you can stand in your +yard and talk to them. + +"I never done no votin', 'cause them Klu Kluxers was allus at the votin' +places for a long time after the niggers was freed. The niggers has got +on since them old days. They has gone from nothin' to a fair educated +folks. We has been kind of slow, 'cause we was turnt loose without +nothin', and couldn't read and write. + +"I's worked for fifteen and thirty cents a day, but Lawd, blessed to our +president, we gits a li'l pension now and that's kep' me from plumb +starvin' to death. Times is hard and folks had to do away with +everything when they had that Hoover for president, but they will be +straightened out by and by if they'll listen to the president now. +'Course, some wants to kill him, 'cause he helps the poor, but it do +look like we ought to have a li'l bread and salt bacon without upsettin' +'em, when they has so much. + + + + +420162 + + + ELIGE DAVISON was born in Richmond, Virginia, a slave of George + Davison. Elige worked in the field for some time before he was + freed, but does not know his age. He lives with one of his + grandsons, in Madisonville, Texas. + + +"My birth was in Richmond. That's over in old Virginny, and George +Davison owned me and my pappy and mammy. I 'member one sister, named +Felina Tucker. + +"Massa and Missus were very good white folks and was good to the black +folks. They had a great big rock house with pretty trees all round it, +but the plantation was small, not more'n a hunerd acres. Massa growed +tobaccy on 'bout 30 of them acres, and he had a big bunch of hawgs. He +waked us up 'bout four in the mornin' to milk the cows and feed them +hawgs. + +"Our quarters was good, builded out of pine logs with a bed in one +corner, no floors and windows. Us wore old loyal clothes and our shirt, +it open all down the front. In winter massa gave us woolen clothes to +wear. Us didn't know what shoes was, though. + +"Massa, he look after us slaves when us sick, 'cause us worth too much +money to let die jus' like you do a mule. He git doctor or nigger mammy. +She make tea out of weeds, better'n quinine. She put string round our +neck for chills and fever, with camphor on it. That sho' keep off +diseases. + +"Us work all day till jus' 'fore dark. Sometimes us got whippin's. We +didn't mind so much. Boss, you know how stubborn a mule am, he have to +be whipped. That the way slaves is. + +"When you gather a bunch of cattle to sell they calves, how the calves +and cows will bawl, that the way the slaves was then. They didn't know +nothin' 'bout they kinfolks. Mos' chillen didn't know who they pappy was +and some they mammy 'cause they taken 'way from the mammy when she wean +them, and sell or trade the chillen to someone else, so they wouldn't +git 'tached to they mammy or pappy. + +"Massa larn us to read and us read the Bible. He larn us to write, too. +They a big church on he plantation and us go to church and larn to tell +the truth. + +"I seed some few run away to the north and massa sometime cotch 'em and +put 'em in jail. Us couldn't go to nowhere without a pass. The +patterrollers would git us and they do plenty for nigger slave. I's went +to my quarters and be so tired I jus' fall in the door, on the ground, +and a patterroller come by and hit me several licks with a +cat-o-nine-tails, to see if I's tired 'nough to not run 'way. Sometimes +them patterrollers hit us jus' to hear us holler. + +"When a slave die, he jus' 'nother dead nigger. Massa, he builded a +wooden box and put the nigger in and carry him to the hole in the +ground. Us march round the grave three times and that all. + +"I been marry once 'fore freedom, with home weddin'. Massa, he bring +some more women to see me. He wouldn't let me have jus' one woman. I +have 'bout fifteen and I don't know how many chillen. Some over a +hunerd, I's sho'. + +"I 'member plenty 'bout the war, 'cause the Yankees they march on to +Richmond. They kill everything what in the way. I heared them big guns +and I's scart. Everybody scart. I didn't see no fightin', 'cause I gits +out the way and keeps out till it all over. + +But when they marches right on the town I's tendin' hosses for massa. He +have two hosses kilt right under him. Then the Yankees, they capture +that town. Massa, he send me to git the buggy and hoss and carry missus +to the mountain, but them Yankees they capture me and say they gwine +hang that nigger. But, glory be, massa he saves me 'fore they hangs me. +He send he wife and my wife to 'nother place then, 'cause they burn +massa's house and tear down all he fences. + +"When the war over massa call me and tells me I's free as he was, 'cause +them Yankees win the war. He give me $5.00 and say he'll give me that +much a month iffen I stays with him, but I starts to Texas. I heared I +wouldn't have to work in Texas, 'cause everything growed on trees and +the Texans wore animal hides for clothes. I didn't git no land or mule +or cow. They warn't no plantations divided what I knowed 'bout. Mos' +niggers jus' got turn loose with a cuss, and not 'nough clothes to cover +they bodies. + +"It 'bout a year 'fore I gits to Texas. I walks nearly all the way. +Sometimes I git a li'l ride with farmer. Sometimes I work for folks +'long the way and git fifty cents and start 'gain. + +"I got to Texas and try to work for white folks and try to farm. I +couldn't make anything at any work. I made $5.00 a month for I don't +know how many year after the war. Iffen the woods wasn't full of wild +game us niggers all starve to death them days. + +"I been marry three time. First wife Eve Shelton. She run off with +'nother man. Then I marries Fay Elly. Us sep'rate in a year. Then I +marry Parlee Breyle. No, I done forgot. 'Fore that I marries Sue +Wilford, and us have seven gals and six boys. They all in New York but +one. He stays here. Then I marries Parlee and us have two gals. Parlee +die three year ago. + +"The gov'ment give me a pension and I gits li'l odd jobs round, to get +by. But times been hard and I ain't had much to eat the las' few years. +Not near so good as what old massa done give me. But I gits by somehow. + +"I done the bes' I could, 'sidering I's turned out with nothin' when I's +growed and didn't know much, neither. The young folks, they knows more, +'cause they got the chance for schoolin'. + + + + +420278 + + + JOHN DAY, 81, was born near Dayton, Tennessee, a slave of Major + John Day. John lives in McLennan Co., Texas. + + +"I was born near three mile from Dayton. That's over in Tennessee, and +it was the sixteenth of February, in 1856. Master's name was Major John +Day and my father's name was Alfred Day, and he was a first-class +blacksmith. Blacksmithin' was a real trade them days, and my father made +axes and hoes and plow shares and knives and even Jew's harps. + +"Master was good to my father and when he done done de day's work he +could work and keep the money he made. He'd work till midnight, +sometimes, and at de end that war he had fifteen hundred dollars in +Confederate money. I never seen such a worker. + +"Master John thunk lots of father but he took de notion to sell him one +time, 'cause why, he could git a lot of money for him. He sold him, but +my mama and even Old Missy, cried and took on so dat Master John went +after de men what bought him, to git him back. Dey already done crossed +de river, but master calls and dey brung my father back and he give dem +de money back. Dat de only time master sold one of us. + +"He was a preacher and good to us, never beat none of us. He didn't have +no overseer, but saw to all de work heself. He had twenty-five slaves +and raised wheat and corn and oats and vegetables and fruit. He had four +hundred acres and a house with twelve rooms. + +"A man what owned a farm jinin' ourn, de houses half a mile apart. He +had two slaves, Taylor and Jennie, and he whip dem every day, even if +dey hadn't done nothin'. He allus beatin' on dem, seemed like. One awful +cold day in February, Taylor done go to Denton for somethin', and when +he come back his master starts beatin' on him, and cursed him somethin' +awful. He kep' it up till my mama, her name was Mariah, gits a butcher +knife and runs out dere and say, 'Iffen you hits him 'nother lick, I'll +use this on you.' Old Missy was watchin' and backed her up. So he quit +beatin' on Taylor dat time. But one day dat white man's own son say to +him, 'Iffen you don't quit beatin' on dem niggers, I'll knock you in de +head.' Den he quit. + +"Master was in de Confederate army. He gits to be a major and after he +done come out dat war he sho' hated anythin' what was blue color. I got +hold a old Yankee cap and coat and is wearin' dem and master yanks dem +off and burns dem. + +"We heared dem guns in de Lookout Mountain battle. Dey sounded like +thunder, rumblin' low. One day de Feds done take Dayton and de soldiers +goes by our place to drive dem Feds out. Dere a valley 'bout two miles +wide 'twixt our place and Dayton and we could see de Confederate +soldiers till dey go up de hill on de other side. Long in evenin' de +Confederates come back through dat valley and they was travelin' with +dem Yankees right after dem. Dey come by our house and we was gittin' +out de way, all right. Old Missy took all us chillen, black and white, +and puts us under half a big hogshead, down in de stormhouse. + +"De Yankees got to de place and 'gin ransack it. Old Missy done lock dat +stormhouse door and sot down on it and she wouldn't git up when dey done +tell her to. So dey takes her by de arms and lifts her off it. Dey +didn't hurt her any. Den dey brekks de lock and comes down in dere. I +didn't see whay dey hadn't found us kids, 'cause my heart beatin' like +de hammer. Dey turned dat hogshead over and all us kids skinned out dere +like de Devil after us. One de Yanks hollers, 'Look what we done hatch +out!' + +"I tore out past de barn, thinkin' I'd go to mama, in de field, but it +look like all de Yanks in de world jumpin' dere hosses over dat fence, +so I whirls round and run in dat barn and dives in a stack of hay and +buries myself so deep de folks like to never found me. Dey hunted all +over de place befo' dey done found me. Us kids scart 'cause we done see +dem Yanks' bayonets and thunk dey was dere horns. + +"Dem Yanks done take all de flour and meal and wheat and corn and smoked +meat. After dat master fixes up a place in de ceilin' to store stuff, +and a trap door so when it closed you couldn't tell its dere. + +"I lives in and round de old place till 1910, den comes to Texas. I jist +works round and farms and gits by, but I ain't never done nothin' worth +tellin'. + + + + +420257 + + +[Illustration: Nelsen Denson] + + + NELSEN DENSON, 90, was born near Hambirg, Arkansas, a slave of Jim + Nelson, who sold Nelsen and his family to Felix Grundy. Nelsen's + memory is poor, but he managed to recall a few incidents. He now + lives in Waco, Texas. + + +"I'll be ninety years old this December, (1937). I was born in Arkansas, +up in Ashley County, and it was the twenty-second day of December in +1847. My mammy was from Virginny and pappy was from old Kentucky, and I +was one of they eight chillen. Our owner, Marse Jim Densen, brung us to +Texas and settled near Marlin, but got in debt and sold as all to Marse +Felix Grundy, and he kep' us till freedom, and most of us worked for him +after that. + +"Marse Jim Densen had a easy livin' in Arkansas, but folks everywhere +was comin' to Texas and he 'cides to throw in his fortunes. It wasn't so +long after that war with Mexico and folks come in a crowd to 'tect +theyselves 'gainst Indians and wild animals. The wolves was the worst to +smell cookin' and sneak into camp, but Indians come up and makes the +peace sign and has a pow wow with the white folks. Marse git beads or +cloth and trade for leather breeches and things. + +"I want to tell how we crosses the Red River on de Red River Raft. Back +in them days the Red River was near closed up by dis timber raft and de +big boats couldn't git up de river at all. We gits a li'l boat, and a +Caddo Indian to guide us. Dis Red River raft dey say was centuries old. +De driftwood floatin' down de river stops in de still waters and makes a +bunch of trees and de dirt 'cumulates, and broomstraws and willows and +brush grows out dis rich dirt what cover de driftwood. Dis raft growed +'bout a mile a year and de oldes' timber rots and breaks away, but dis +not fast 'nough to keep de river clear. We found bee trees on de raft +and had honey. + +"It was long time after us come to Texas when de gov'ment opens up de +channel. Dat am in 1873. 'Fore dat, a survey done been made and dey +found de raft am a hundred and twenty-eight miles long. When we was on +dat raft it am like a big swamp, with trees and thick brush and de +driftwood and logs all wedge up tight 'tween everything. + +"'Fore Texas secedes, Marse Jensen done sell us all to Marse Felix +Grundy, and he goes to war in General Hardeman's Brigade and is with him +for bodyguard. When de battle of Mansfield come I'm sixteen years old. +We was camped on the Sabine River, on the Texas side, and the Yanks on +the other side a li'l ways. I 'member the night 'fore the battle, how +the campfires looked, and a quiet night and the whippoorwills callin' in +the weeds. We was 'spectin' a 'tack and sings to keep cheerful. The +Yanks sings the 'Battle Cry of Freedom' when they charges us. They come +on and on and, Lawd, how they fit! I stays clost to Marse Grundy and the +rebels wins and takes 'bout a thousand Yanks. + +"Most the slaves was happy, the ones I knowed. They figgers the white +men fightin' for some principal, but lots of them didn't care nothin' +'bout bein' free. I s'pose some was with bad white folks, but not round +us. We had more to eat and now I'm so old I wouldn't feel bad if I had +old marse to look after me 'gain. + + + + +420131 + + + VICTOR DUHON was born 97 years ago in Lafayette Parish, La., a + slave of the Duhon family. His blue eyes and almost white skin are + evidence of the white strain in his blood. Even after many years of + association with English speaking persons, he speaks a French + patois, and his story was interpreted by a Beaumont French teacher. + + +"My papa was Lucien Duhon and my mama Euripe Dupuis. I was born over in +Louisiana in Lafayette Parish, between Broussard and Warville. I'm 97 +years old now. + +"I didn't have brothers or sisters, except half ones. It is like this, +my mama was a house servant in the Duhon family. She was the +hairdresser. One day she barbered master's son, who was Lucien. He says +that he'll shave her head if she won't do what he likes. After that she +his woman till he marries a white lady. + +"My grandmama was stolen from Africa and she lived to be 125 years old. +She died last year in April. I think I'll live long as she did. There +were fifteen slaves on the land what Duhon's had but I never ran around +with them. I had room at the back of the big house. You know, Madame +Duhon was my grandmama. She was good to me. The only thing I did was +look to my master's horse and be coachman for Madame. Master had four +sons. They were Ragant and Jaques and Lucien and Desire. Desire was shot +at the dance. + +"Master had about 100 acres in cotton and the corn. He had a slave for +to hunt all the time. He didn't do other things. The partridge and the +rice birds he killed were cooked for the white folks. The owls and the +rabbits and the coons and the possums were cooked for us. They had a big +room for us to eat in. Where they cook they had a long oven with a piece +down the middle. They cooked the white folks things on one side. They +cooked their own things on the other. They had each ones pots and +skillets. + +"I didn't play much with the black children. My time went waiting on my +white folks. + +"Sometimes the priest came to say Mass. The slaves went to Mass. The +priest married and baptized the slaves. They gave a feast of baptizing. +We all had real beef meat that day. + +"When my mama had 22 years she married a Polite Landry slave. Then she +went to the Landry plantation. There was often marrying between the two +plantations. When they married the wife went to her man's plantation. +That made no difference. It wouldn't be long before a girl from the +other place marry into the man's plantation. That kept things in +balance. + +"My mama married Fairjuste Williams. They had two sons and a daughter. I +didn't know them so much. They were half brothers and sister. + +"I had 22 years when war came. You know what war I mean. The war when +the slaves were set free. I wasn't bothered about freedom. Didn't leave +master till he died. Then I went to work for Mr. Polite Landry. + +"I was always in good hands. Some slaves ware treated bad. Mr. Natale +Vallean beat up a slave for stealing. He beat him so hard he lay in +front of the gate a whole day and the night. + +"I worked on farms all my life. Then I came to Beaumont. About 23 years +ago, it was. I worked at anything. Now I'm too old. I live with my +daughter. + + + ++--------------------------------------------------------------+ +| | +| Transcriber's Corrections: | +| | +| | +| Page 3: Then (and weepin' when they sot us free. Lots of | +| them didn't want to be free, 'cause they knowed nothin' and | +| had nowhere to go. #Them# what had good massas stayed right | +| on.) # Page 14: too (niggers. There am 'bout 30 old and | +| young niggers and 'bout 20 piccaninnies too little #to# | +| work, and de nuss cares for dem while dey mammies works.) | +| | +| Page 28: way ("I stays with Miss Olivia till '63 when Mr. | +| Will set us all free. I was 'bout 17 year old then or more. | +| I #say# I goin' find my mamma. Mr. Will fixes me up two | +| papers, one 'bout a yard long and the other some smaller, | +| but both) | +| | +| Page 52: Mockbateman ("My pappy was Ike Bateman, 'cause his | +| massa's name am #Mock Bateman#, and mammy's name was | +| Francis. They come from Tennessee and I had four brothers | +| and six sisters. We jes' left de last part) | +| | +| Page 67: home-make ("Marster have de plank house and all de | +| things in it was #home-made#. De cook was a old cullud woman | +| and I eat at de kitchen table and) | +| | +| Page 85: bit ("Every year they have #big# Christmas dinner | +| and ham and turkey and allus feed us good. Us have Christmas | +| party and sing songs. That) | +| | +| Page 90: LaSan (slave born. My papa was Olivier Blanchard | +| and he white man carpenter on old plantation. We belong to | +| Clairville #La San# and all live on that place. My papa just | +| plain carpenter but could draw patterns for) | +| | +| Page 114: chilen (School. Dem was good times. De mistus cook | +| dinner and send it down for de old folks and #chillen# to | +| have plenty.) | +| | +| Page 147: bit ("Old massa's name was William Lyons. I didn't | +| have no old missus, 'cause he was a bachelor. He had a #big# | +| plantation. I don't know how big but dey somethin' like | +| twenty fam'lies of slaves and some dem fam'lies) | +| | +| Page 164: nyself ("I seed some bad sight in slavery, but | +| ain' never been 'bused #myself#. I seed chillun too lil' to | +| walk from dey mammies sol' right off de block) | +| | +| Page 195: tim (Ross drives de cattle north and I says to | +| him, 'I's good hand at de drive. Kin I go with you nex' | +| #time# you goes north?' And not long after dat we starts and | +| we gits to Kansas City. After Marster Ross gets shut of) | +| | +| Page 211: women (I saw Massa Oll and he done married after I | +| left and raised a family of chillen. I saw Missie Adeline | +| and she was a old #woman#. We went out and looked at the | +| tombstones and the rock markers in the graveyard on the old | +| place, and some of) | +| | +| Page 212: woned ("My master was Dick Townes and my folks | +| come with him from Alabama. He #owned# a big plantation | +| fifteen miles from Austin and worked lots of slaves. We had | +| the best master in the whole county, and everybody called) | +| | +| Page 214: gen'zen ("Old massa name Jim Moore. He a fair old | +| #gen'man#, with a big bald place on he head, and he am good | +| to de slaves. Not even as stric' as old) | +| | +| Page 226: bit (best men I ever knows in my whole life and | +| his wife was jes' like him. Dey had a #big#, four-room log | +| house with a big hall down the center up and down. De logs | +| was all peeled and de chinkin' a diff'rent color from de | +| logs and) | +| | +| Page 228: "e (De war am on, but us don't see none of it. But | +| 'stead of eatin' cornbread, us eats bread out of kaffir corn | +| and maize. #"We# raises lots of okra and dey say it gwine be | +| parch and grind to make coffee for white folks. Dat didn't) | +| | +| Page 251: conb (I go to milk I puts her in de trough. I | +| saved her life lots of times. One time she's on de #cone# of | +| de two-story house, when she's 'bout two years old. I eases | +| up and knocks de window out and coaxes her to come to me. | +| 'Nother) | +| | +| Page 258: Day (woman a big, red pocket handkerchief and a | +| bottle of liquor. He buyed dat liquor by de barrel and liked | +| it hisself. #Dat# why he allus had it on de place.) | +| | +| Page 262: outselves ("We mos'ly lived on corn pone and salt | +| bacon de marster give us. We didn't have no gardens | +| #ourselves#, 'cause we wouldn't have time to work in dem. We | +| worked all day in de fields and den was so tired we | +| couldn't) | +| | +| Page 263: Weht (usually split from hem to neck and I had to | +| wear them till they was strings. #Went# barefoot summer and | +| winter till the feets crack open.) | +| | +| Page 267: bit ("Dey feeds us well sometimes, if dey warn't | +| mad at us. Dey has a big trough jes' like de trough for de | +| pigs and dey has a #big# gourd and dey totes de gourd full | +| of milk and dey breaks de bread in de milk. Den my mammy) | +| | +| Page 289: whay (us call Massa John, and he wife, Miss | +| Lizzie, and we is de only cullud folks #what# dey owns.) | +| | +| Page 292: everhas (more carpet baggers and liars dan you | +| ever has seed, and you'll be worse off den you #ever has# | +| been, if you has anythin' to do with dem. Den she opens de | +| book and tells us all when us born and how old us am, so us | +| have some record 'bout) | +| | ++--------------------------------------------------------------+ + + + + + +End of the Project Gutenberg EBook of Slave Narratives: a Folk History of +Slavery in the United States From Interviews with Former Slaves, by Work Projects Administration + +*** END OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK SLAVE NARRATIVES--TEXAS, PART 1 *** + +***** This file should be named 30576.txt or 30576.zip ***** +This and all associated files of various formats will be found in: + https://www.gutenberg.org/3/0/5/7/30576/ + +Produced by The Online Distributed Proofreading Team at +https://www.pgdp.net (This file was produced from images +generously made available by the Library of Congress, +Manuscript Division) + + +Updated editions will replace the previous one--the old editions +will be renamed. + +Creating the works from public domain print editions means that no +one owns a United States copyright in these works, so the Foundation +(and you!) can copy and distribute it in the United States without +permission and without paying copyright royalties. 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